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== Position-based quantum cryptography ==
 
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[[User:Maurice Carbonaro|Maurice Carbonaro]] ([[User talk:Maurice Carbonaro|talk]]) 08:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::I guess from the terms you mention, [[multilateration]] is closest (because quantum position verification uses the timing, not the angle (thus not [[triangulation]])), and usually has four or more verifiers (thus not [[trilateration]]). But it is not really [[multilateration]] either, because it locates via the response times, while multilateration uses the differences in arrival times of the signal (i.e., communication is unidirectional).
 
::I am not sure what you mean by "taking into account [[space-time]]". Do you mean that the curvature of space-time needs to be taken into account? That would only necessary for long distance position verification, I believe (otherwise the errors are very small and can be ignored). (But curved spacetime can be handled, see http://eprint.iacr.org/2014/118/20140216:194504. Disclaimer: own research.)
 
:: [[User:Eric.cavalcantiDniQ|Eric.cavalcantiDominique Unruh]] ([[User talk:Eric.cavalcantiDniQ|talk]]) 0623:4431, 1816 March 20112014 (UTC)
 
== State of the technique today? ==
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:The article does read as if the techniques are up and running everywhere, whereas much of this is still theoretical. For QKD I have added a citation needed tag to say where this can be found. [[User:Myrvin|Myrvin]] ([[User talk:Myrvin|talk]]) 12:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 
:: That's because it doesn't work in the real world. [[Special:Contributions/98.194.39.86|98.194.39.86]] ([[User talk:98.194.39.86|talk]]) 15:45, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
== Post-quantum cryptography ==
 
:::perhaps we should just change verb tenses to remove these citation needed tags, since it seems the state of current research is not at the point indicated? see my recent edit for an example. changed "is used" to "could be used". [[User:Cliff|Cliff]] ([[User talk:Cliff|talk]]) 17:09, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
I have modified the entry about post-quantum cryptography. It was giving the impression that quantum cryptopgraphy could be broken by a quantum computer, which is of course not the case. The aim of post-quantum cryptography, in this usage of the term at least, is to find alternative _classical_ methods that are presumably secure against quantum computers. Quantum cryptography is obviously secure against adversaries with quantum computers, since those cannot violate the laws of quantum mechanics that are used to prove the security of QC.
 
[[User:Eric.cavalcanti|Eric.cavalcanti]] ([[User talk:Eric.cavalcanti|talk]]) 06:44, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 
== Question.... ==
 
Should be explained that if Bob and Alice live at oposite parts of the earth they will need a direct optical fiber connection to actualy use QC? Security affects just the optical cable transmission.--[[Special:Contributions/85.52.11.16|85.52.11.16]] ([[User talk:85.52.11.16|talk]]) 15:51, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:For QKD, many experiments involve photon travelling through air, if I'm not mistaken. [[User:Skippydo|Skippydo]] ([[User talk:Skippydo|talk]]) 04:39, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 
::What I think the previous user means, is that in order to preserve the quantumstate of the messages, there needs to be a direct line between Alice and Bob. If there were like a router in between, wouldn't it change the quantum stae, because it needs to repeat the message? ie. it needs to resend it to another part of the network, therefore it has to create a new message, thus losing the quantum state. This is the reason why I came here aswell, because this has been bugging me too. If someone has an answer for this? [[Special:Contributions/217.150.190.17|217.150.190.17]] ([[User talk:217.150.190.17|talk]]) 14:40, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 
::: The entire example is nonsense, and poorly written nonsense at that. However, the fact is there COULD be an interception without the receiver knowing it, because a repeater could easily be constructed. Sure the original "message" (quantum states) would be destroyed, but not before it was captured, copied and then re-transmitted from a second (2nd) quantum transmitter. When someone builds a working end to end quantum data link, I'll build one that can unobtrusively capture the data that traverses it. [[Special:Contributions/98.194.39.86|98.194.39.86]] ([[User talk:98.194.39.86|talk]]) 15:43, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 
== The article's content is baloney ==
 
There is no such thing as quantum crypto. Quantum computing can be used to establish a connection between points, which is what the reference to key distribution is referring to. Quantum Physics, its laws (if you want to call them this) give its users an ability to be certain that a connection between two points is just that -- and that nobody has eavesdropped on that connection.
 
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:: I agree completely. Most of this article is pure science fiction, speculation and / or unproven theory. To treat it as fact is absurd. Lacking proof and citations, it should be removed or rewritten as theoretical. [[Special:Contributions/98.194.39.86|98.194.39.86]] ([[User talk:98.194.39.86|talk]]) 15:34, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 
:::: I've read [https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/10/china-uses-quantum-satellite-to-transmit-potentially-unhackable-data.html here] that China has already put quantum cryptography to use. 03:35, 16 August 2017 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/115.206.227.217|115.206.227.217]] ([[User talk:115.206.227.217#top|talk]]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
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== Peer Review for Brianna Kenney and Moonunit42 ==
 
I justed finished reading your article and it seemed like both of you made strong contributions to the article. The lead paragraph is concise, which is good but may want to include a sentence or two about some of the subcategories mentioned in the article. The last paragraph added to quantum key distribution added additional context and applications for the article, another strong edit. The sources look reliable for the additions to the quantum commitment section as well. Nothing was overstated or redundant. I enjoyed reading the article and learning about quantum cryptography! <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Davidbaror|Davidbaror]] ([[User talk:Davidbaror#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Davidbaror|contribs]]) 21:28, 9 December 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
== The misleading "Implementation_in_practice" should be renamed ==
 
[[Quantum_cryptography#Implementation_in_practice|The section Implementation in practice ]]
is the only section (supposedly) about implementations, yet it doesn't talk about any of them. It should be renamed to make way for a much-needed section "Implementations", and, perhaps, included in a subsection of that. [[User:Jabowery|Jim Bowery]] ([[User talk:Jabowery|talk]]) 19:26, 21 September 2021 (UTC)