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=="Election campaign" :-)==
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Yes, I just wanted to tell you I'm being considered for WP adminship, so why not use your wikidemocratic right to [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Wernher|vote]] -- and thus support a fellow nordmøring (who grew up in a neighbouring municipality, no less, and had an aunt at Gullstein) in his quest to make Wikipedia an even better virtual world of knowledge! --[[User:Wernher|Wernher]] 20:53, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC) (not very used to campaigning; more of a quiet backroom guy, really)
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:Ovsvert! Takk ska du ha :-) --[[User:Wernher|Wernher]] 17:12, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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== Discussion about mamzerim ==
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Hi Olve, would you be willing to give your opinion in [[Talk:Jewish_ethnocentrism#Duplicate_material]]? [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg]] 23:32, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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:OK -- I threw in my tuppence there. Nothing really revolutionary to add though... :) -- [[User:Olve|Olve]] 20:15, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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== Kevin B. MacDonald ==
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Please take a look at [[Talk:Kevin B. MacDonald]][[User:AndyL|AndyL]] 14:44, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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==Template:Jew revamp==
I understand where your coming from, but sometimes we must sacrifice a few lesser items to keep things useable. There was no malicious intent to remove the other ethnic groups, merely to pair it down to the 4 largest ones as listed according to [[Jewish ethnic divisions]] all of the lesser groups are included on this page which is still linked. I would not think it difficult to find this information using this template.
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As for languages I kept the primary languages, as I understand it Judaeo-Arabic is on the way out and [[Jewish languages]] lists it as "highly endangered", therefore my conclusion was simply let it go. I also based the choice upon previous comments at [[Template talk:Jew]]. Please be aware that I modify based upon what I percieve to be a consensus, most folks deemed that Jewish Populations had to stay so I kept it rather than merging the content with [[Template:JewsByCountry]]. Your best bet at convincing me is to get more people to agree. [[User:Alkivar|Alkivar]] 06:38, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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== Jewish ethnocentrism - delete? ==
You might be interested in the vote to delete and discussion here: [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Jewish ethnocentrism]] [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg ]]<sup><font color="DarkGreen">[[User_talk:Jayjg|(talk)]]</font></sup> 20:03, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the tip! -- [[User:Olve|Olve]] 20:43, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
== Question about the origin of Yiddish word schmuck ==
Doesn't the word actually come from the word for jewel, and is used as a euphemism? [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg ]]<sup><font color="DarkGreen">[[User_talk:Jayjg|(talk)]]</font></sup> 19:27, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Roughly yes, I would say. The Yiddish word שמוק means ‘ornament’ — as in piece of jewellery or lace/s. A שמוקלער (m.) or שמוקלערקע (f.) is a lacemaker. I would tend to believe that it started out as sarcasm rather than as an euphemism — but I know my European Yiddish history far better than American usage, so I cannot claim to have the whole story here... -- [[User:Olve|Olve]] 22:54, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:What do you think of this posting:
::''German _Schmuck_ rhymes with English _look_ and means 'jewel'.ÿ Yiddish _shmok_ rhymes with Yiddish _zok_ 'sock', and means 'penis'. It DOES NOT rhyme with the German word and there is no known way in which it can be derived therefrom. The two words are decidedly NOT RELATED, and appeals to a presumed reference to "the family jewels" in Yiddish are misplaced. In other words, Mr. Saphire's reference to "penile and ornamental origins of German-Yiddish _schmuck_" are completely off the mark. There IS NO "German-Yiddish _schmuck_". English _shmuck_ rhymes with English _luck_ and means 'fool'.ÿ It IS derived from the Yiddish word. Our best evidence points to the Slavic origin of Yiddish _shmok_. See, for example, Polish _smok_ 'serpent', 'tail'.'' [http://shakti.trincoll.edu/~mendele/vol07/vol07.150]
:[[User:Jayjg|Jayjg ]]<sup><font color="DarkGreen">[[User_talk:Jayjg|(talk)]]</font></sup> 15:48, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Definitely interesting! But it seems a bit more confident than it needs to be... First, in the world of Yiddish, the word shmuk ''does'' exist, albeit maybe not in all dialects. Second, there is no 100%watertight wall between German and Yiddish: Almost anything that is said in some German dialect or other is also said in some Yiddish dialect or other. The two languages may be separate entities as written languages, but as spoken languages, there is about as much of a "sliding scale" between dialects/sociolects of German as there is within any similar "Sprachbund" -- e.g., Scandinavian, Low-German/Dutch/Frisian, etc. Third, the pronunciation of the short/lax /o/ and /u/ vowels in English are often similar, and in New York Yinglish they seem to be particularly so. All that being said, the theory of Polish "smok" as the/an etymology is interesting. I do not know of a Yiddish word "shmok" myself, so I can neither confirm, prove or falsify that hypothesis. The word "shmok" (which should be expected from the English form) or "smok" (which should be expected from the postulated Polish etymon) is not listed in Weinreich's Yiddish-English dictionary. My Yiddish is mostly a literary/linguistical one, so there is definitely a possibility for me to have missed a slang term...All in all, I am not really convinced, but providing of more specific references may convince me if the evidence is compelling enough. -- [[User:Olve|Olve]] 03:43, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
== Hasidism and/or Chabad ==
Olve, do you know much about either of these topics? If so, I could use another set of eyes on an article. [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg ]]<sup><font color="DarkGreen">[[User_talk:Jayjg|(talk)]]</font></sup> 00:03, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I know a bit, I guess, but thinks are insanely hectic right now. Can it wait till מוצאי שבת? And could you remind me then? If it is more urgent, please tell me [[:nn:Brukardiskusjon:Olve|here]] as soon as possible, and I can have a brief look if you tell me what specific thing you want a second opinion about. -- [[User:Olve|Olve]] 06:07, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:מוצאי שבת is fine. There's a discussion going on at [[Talk:Chabad Lubavitch]] about the beliefs of Chabad Hassidim vs. other Hassidim; I was hoping you would weigh in. Thanks. [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg ]]<sup><font color="DarkGreen">[[User_talk:Jayjg|(talk)]]</font></sup> 15:53, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:Sorry about the delay. That's quite a wasps' nest there...! -- [[User:Olve|Olve]] 01:59, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
== Ashkenazic speakers of Ladino ==
Olve, could you please respond to my inquiry on this subject on the [[Talk:Ladino language]] page? Thanks. [[User:TShilo12|Tomer]] <sup><font color=129DBC>[[User talk:TShilo12|TALK]]</font></sup> 05:55, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
== Abif VfD ==
Hi, see [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Abif]]. Thank you. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 06:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
== NPOV ==
Please check out [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/BCE-CE Debate]], [[User:Slrubenstein|Slrubenstein]] | [[User talk:Slrubenstein|Talk ]] 00:00, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
== Yehudei sheqolenique ==
[[Yehudei sheqolenique]], ever heard of them? Can you look at and verify the article at all? Thanks [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 10:30, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
:Nope. Never heard of them. Looks like a big (!) spoof to me... (I know: Famous last words and all that. But it just doesn’t seem to make any sense.) -- [[User:Olve|Olve]] 23:12, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks for the observations/s. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 06:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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