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:[http://www.allposters.com/-sp/The-Siege-of-Sparta-by-Pyrrhus-1799-1800-Posters_i1585999_.htm This] version is better and easier to remove watermark from. If Quibik is around, his extraction of the original jpg from the zoomable preview would help a lot (I can get high-res version, but can not guarantee it is the original jpg, and here the higher resolution, the better). [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 00:51, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
::You probably had the Dezoomify script ([http://sourceforge.net/p/dezoomify/wiki/Home/ this], for anyone wondering) in mind. Unfortunately, Allposters.com does not use Zoomify, so that script will not work. I did find an alternative way to retrieve a reasonably large unwatermarked version. It is slightly blurrier than the watermarked version, though, so combining these two versions is a good idea. I wrote a JavaScript script (a [[bookmarklet]]) that gets both the watermarked and unwatermarked large images, in case anyone might want to get any other images from there:
:::<syntaxhighlight lang="JavaScript" enclose="div">
javascript:r = /http:\/\/imagecache5d\.allposters\.com\/watermarker\/([^.]+)\.\D+(\d+)\D+(\d+)/.exec(document.body.innerHTML); if (!r) {alert("Failed to find the link. Sorry.");} else {window.open(r, Math.random()); window.open("http://frame.allposters.com/frameimagehandler/universal/frameimage.jpg?frame=[FAP:0+PRT:[PRW=" + r[3] + "|PRH=" + r[2] + "|PIP=\\" + r[1].replace(/-/g, '\\') + ".jpg]+QLT:101+MXW:" + r[3] + "+MXH:" + r[2] + "]", Math.random());} void(0);
</syntaxhighlight>
::And another one for [http://www.art.com art.com], since it is pretty much the same website:
:::<syntaxhighlight lang="JavaScript" enclose="div">
javascript:r = /popHighzoomImage\(([^,]+),([^,]+),[^,]+,'-?([^.]+)/.exec(document.body.innerHTML); r2 = /http:\/\/cache2\.artprintimages\.com\/p\/LRG\/([^\/]+\/[^\/]+\/[^\/]+)/.exec(document.body.innerHTML); if (!r || !r2) {alert("Failed to find the link. Sorry.");} else {window.open("http://imagecache5d.art.com/watermarker/" + r[3] + ".jpg", Math.random()); window.open("http://frame.artprintimages.com/frameimagehandler/universal/frameimage.jpg?frame=[FAP:0+PRT:[PRW=" + r[1] + "|PRH=" + r[2] + "|PIP=\\" + r2[1].replace(/\//g, '\\') + ".jpg]+QLT:101+MXW:" + r[1] + "+MXH:" + r[2] + "]", Math.random());} void(0);
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==Cathedral==
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'''Article(s):''' Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception of the Holy Virgin Mary (Moscow)
'''Request:''' ...cars; (brighten it up, so it won't be looking so depressing); retouch nave's wall; remove the spotlight in front of the wall. Thanks.[[User:GreatOrangePumpkin|<span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'><font; color=:orange;">[[User:GreatOrangePumpkin|♫GoP♫]]</font></span><sub>]][[User talk:GreatOrangePumpkin|<fontsub colorstyle="color:red;">T</fontsub>]]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/GreatOrangePumpkin|<fontsup colorstyle="color:red;">C</fontsup>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:NewPages|<fontsub style="color=:red;">N</fontsub>]]</sup> 18:07, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
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{{Done}} As requested. [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 06:43, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks. Can you remove the other car? That would be excellent. [[User:GreatOrangePumpkin|<span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'><font; color=:orange;">[[User:GreatOrangePumpkin|♫GoP♫]]</font></span><sub>]][[User talk:GreatOrangePumpkin|<fontsub colorstyle="color:red;">T</fontsub>]]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/GreatOrangePumpkin|<fontsup colorstyle="color:red;">C</fontsup>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:NewPages|<fontsub style="color=:red;">N</fontsub>]]</sup> 12:57, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
== Don Laughlin ==
{{resolved|1=<i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]]}}
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Don Laughlin poses with patrons.jpg|Don Laughlin (left)
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File:Poster for Mutiny on the Bounty.jpg|Poster for ''Mutiny on the Bounty'' (1962)| </br>{{Done}}
File:Poster - Mutiny on the Bounty (1935).jpg|Poster for ''Mutiny on the Bounty'' (1935)| </br>{{Done}}
File:Poster - Billy Rose's Jumbo.jpg|Poster for ''Billy Rose's Jumbo''| </br>{{Done}}
File:Poster - Long Day's Journey into Night.jpg|Poster for ''Long Day's Journey into Night''| </br>{{Done}}
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{{Done}} Sorry Fallschirmjäger! [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 11:48, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
:No worries! <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 11:50, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
==Hurricane damage==
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File:Maria II 18361833.png|Maria II, 1836
File:Maria II 1852.png|Maria II, 1852
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File:Queen Moe of Raiatea.jpg|What the end result should hopefully look like
File:King Tamatoa V of Raiatea.jpg
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File:Kaiulani in Boston, 1893, photograph by E.Elmer Chickering.jpg|Minimal crop, remove number on her left, and the watermark on her right sleeve
File:KaiulaniholdingflowersKaiulani holding flowers.jpg|Minimal crop, repair crack and remove copyright sign
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File:Mantis in lace poster.jpg|''Mantis in Lace''| </br>{{Done}}
File:Farmers daughters poster.jpg|''The Farmer's Daughters''| </br>{{Done}}
File:Devil in miss jones poster.jpg|''The Devil in Miss Jones''| </br>{{Done}}
File:Sweet sweetback poster.jpg|''Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song''| </br>{{Done}}
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'''Request:''' Crop and remove graininess which you can detect when you zoom in. Try not to crop the last two but to restore the corners. Thank you. [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 05:13, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):''' IMO these images should be restored to their original resolution (iei.e., much smaller size). Even Internet Explorer does a better job at bilinear interpolation than the software that created these 'enlargements'. I'll do the last one to show you what I mean... [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 10:00, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Okay. Could you do the rest except the first two which are different?--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 19:38, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::Kavebear, Please be aware that bigger isn't always better. My last 2 reverts (see above) were because the newer versions (which you uploaded) were very badly pixelated - which is the very reason that you have asked for them to be restored! May I ask, are scanning these images yourself? Perhaps I could offer you some advice.. [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 01:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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'''Article(s):''' [[Art_Deco]]
'''Request:''' This is the [http://maps.google.com/maps/place?q=*&hl=en&cid=11975085708061345818 Century movie theater] built in the 1990's1990s. The building and a nearby parking garage were designed in the Art Deco style so it is a complement to the architect that it was confused with the 1928 [http://maps.google.com/maps/place?q=majestic+ventura+theatre&cid=7863045915199055341 Majestic Ventura Theatre] around the corner at 26 South Chestnut Street, Ventura, CA. The photo of the Majestic Ventura Theatre at number 34 on the [[National_Register_of_Historic_Places_listings_in_Ventura_County,_California]] is correct. You can also verify the address looking at No. 24 on the [http://www.cityofventura.net/files/community_development/planning/current_planning/resources/historic_landmarks.pdf CITY OF SAN BUENAVENTURA HISTORIC LANDMARKS & DISTRICTS] (PDF). I work nearby so I have first hand knowledge of the two buildings as you can also see using google street view.
 
[[User:Fettlemap|Fettlemap]] ([[User talk:Fettlemap|talk]]) 01:04, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
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[[File:Fluworôze egzostozes1-800h.jpg|thumb|center|alt=knobby hoofed leg|MorrocanMoroccan cow with fluorosis, from industrial contamination]]
'''Article(s):''' [[Fluorine]]
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'''Article(s):''' [[Alex Carter (British actor)|Alex Carter]]
'''Request:''' Could someone please crop the image for use in aan ibox. [[User:D4nnyw14|D4nnyw14]] ([[User talk:D4nnyw14|talk]]) 16:20, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 
 
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==Capsule==
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[[File:Kapsula.gifpng|center|250px]]
 
'''Article(s):''' [[Fluorine]]
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File:Kuhio's dog.png
File:'The Prince of Hawaii' oil on canvas painting by Enoch Wood Perry, Jr., 1865.jpg
File:Albert Kamehameha's dog (1Glen of Imaal terrier).png
File:Albert Kamehameha's dog (2French bulldog).png
File:John Mix Stanley - 'Hawaiian Girl with Dog', oil on canvas, 1849, Bernice P. Bishop Museum.jpg
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'''Article(s):''' probable [[Hawaiian Poi Dog]]
'''Request:''' Please crop out the dogs and upload seperateseparate images of them. Thanks. [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 06:54, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
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:::PNG because it is a bitmapped image format that employs lossless data compression and some of souce files are rather poor. [[User:PawełMM|PawełMM]] ([[User talk:PawełMM|talk]]) 09:15, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
== image layout ==
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{{Gallery
|title=Elemental fluorine
|width=300
|hightheight=150
|lines=3
|align=center
|File:Moissan color images.jpg|alt1=Three circles: left is same color as background (old paper somewhat tanned); middle is very light yellow; right is more yellow.|An 1892 observation of fluorine gas (middle), compared to air (left) and chlorine (right): the observation was done looking down 5 meter long tubes.
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'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
{{Done}} - I added whitespace to pad the left image out, they both the same ratio now. <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 21:06, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
:Added table layout also. <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 21:11, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
== Alan Halsall and Natalie Cassidy ==
 
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'''Article(s):''' [[Alan Halsall]], [[Natalie Cassidy]]
'''Request:''' Can 2 crops be made from this image to use on each of the actors articles. Alan Halsall is wearing the Black jacket/coat , Natalie Cassidy is the female on the opposite end.[[User:Raintheone|'''<span style="color:blue;font-family:Times New Roman">Rain</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Raintheone|<font color="green">'''the 1'''</font>]]</small> 17:03, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
{{I take|Fallschirmjäger}} 18:05, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:{{Done}} - <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 18:16, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Thankyou very much Fallschirmjäger :)[[User:Raintheone|'''<span style="color:blue;font-family:Times New Roman">Rain</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Raintheone|<font color="green">'''the 1'''</font>]]</small> 18:25, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
::::Your're welcome. Kind regards, <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 21:21, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
== fix aspect ratios ==
 
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I have gotten HUGE HELP from each of you. (JBarta just did a bunch of assists for me. He and I just like to joke around about things. He's the pretty girl at the bar and I'm the fat friend...we make jokes like that. ;-))
 
I want to keep the light color. I know the argument that it is a false manipulation, but the issue is that people are looking at it in article and it is small and embedded in text and seen on a computer screen(probalyprobably a flat panel display), so if it is a dark blotch, they may pass on looking at it. Like it clean and simple (so light is good).
 
I'm not even joking (don't hurt me Hammer!) but as long as we are "cheating", '''could you please cut the chair out that is above the man's face and just clone in some background or the like'''? [[User:TCO|TCO]] ([[User:TCO#Reviews needed|Reviews needed]]) 00:03, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
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*By "his" article I mean that of the editors who have commented here he is the only one with a history of contributing to the article and its development. He is also the one who posted the image and asked for help with it to best use as an illustration. He asked for a more neutral background and I provided what I thought he wanted to which he replied ''"I like the modified version. Thanks, man. (no offense to others that I have huge respect for). I just value the appearance in thumb. Have a busy article and cleaner, more simple pics help me."'' Because of his intimate connection to, manifested interest in, and established status as a developer of the article, I think TCO's view as to how to use the illustration deserves defference of everyone in here just as I would deffer to any other editor in the same circumstances.
 
*As for background in digital image restoration and "retouching" I have been doing this professionally for more thenthan fifteen years as you can see from my [http://digitalimageservices.com '''website''']. I repeat, however, this is not a "competition" so please don't treat is as such. TCO brought the illustration here and he should therefore be the final arbiter as to which one best serves the purpose that he is trying to achieve. As I have said several times now, he is free to accept or reject either of my two versions, those of any other contributor, or to use the original. But the choice should be up to him as the original requester and the party with the greatest interest in its use without that being hijacked by anyone else. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 03:35, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 
::I'm not sure why you thought I was treating this as a competition. I thought your original attempt was a bit slapdash is all, and I was merely trying to offer my own suggestion. To upload it I necessarily had to 'overwrite' yours, but I said beforehand what I was going to do and why, and the revert button is still fully operational. Seriously Centpacrr, nobody is having a go at anyone here and there's no need to get your hackles up. I'm sure you must agree that the 'lightened as requested' image was not one of your best. I totally agree that TCO should be free to choose whichever image, too (hence offering a choice), but I strongly disagree with the idea of "the party with the greatest interest" and especially with the word "hijacked"! Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, so I've said and done my bit. I was just trying to offer a 'third way', not play piggy in the middle. I don't want to get into an argument, thanks. [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 09:24, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
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File:Alexander Brodie.jpg|Oval crop
File:Joseph Henry Kibbey-oval.jpg|Oval crop
File:Richard E Sloan.png|Oval crop
File:Lieutenant Colonel John Baylor.gif|Clean up noise and repair rim
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Here we go again ;-) I have to say, that your approach of wishing to manipulate these images in this fashion is unacceptable in my opinion. The result is a visibly doctored image that is inferior to the original. The fact that some editors may attempt to accomodateaccommodate your wishes in this regard is not entirely helpful. That said, a bit of rotation in this instance *would* be helpful, and that I'm willing to do cheerfully. Rotation would indeed make it a ''better'' image. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 03:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 
:OK.[[User:TCO|TCO]] ([[User talk:TCO|talk]]) 04:07, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
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I hope I don't turn JB into hating me or reverting or edit warring my document. I know he knows a lot and value it. I wasn't kissing his ass when I said thank you on the wonderful work on the tables...I really meant the appreciation. I could not have done what he did...and what he did made my article look more organized.
 
I am trying to conributecontribute and think I have done a lot to make fluorine article better (which is a huge view article and very important to education and even industry). I DO want to get others ideas and such...at the same time, I kind of think that articles benefit from at least pseudo owners. (I guess I am Wiki politically incorrect.) There are vast stretches of very important articles (huge viewing) that are far from completed compositions and I think allowing the person working on them some lattitudelatitude is the best policy. The edit warring can be a real turnoff (for instance, I avoid any article with a name war or other things like that).
 
P.s. And this is minor (as I had space for this image) but in general wide aspect shots are preferred because they fit better within text wrapping.
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File:Miles Higson.jpg|Miles Higson
File:Gemma Pranita 19 March, 2011.jpg|Gemma Pranita
File:PJ Brennan.jpg|PJ Brennan
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File:DukeKahanamoku.jpeg
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:Anyone can request a rename by inserting a [[:commons:Template:Rename|<nowiki>{{rename}}</nowiki>]] template but only a [[:commons:Commons:File_renaming|filemover]] can actually rename the file and only if it follows the rename guidelines. If the name is misrepresentative of what the image actually is, then that's a perfectly valid reason. Before requesting a rename however it would be good to not only be sure, but to offer some sort of evidence that it's actually misnamed. Once a rename template is placed, it takes anywhere from a couple hours to a couple days for a filemover to wander over and either perform the rename, or remove your request with a reason why. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 06:55, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 
* This is the original poster at a differnetdifferent (also shared) IP address. Thanks for the work, folks. On the monitor I'm now using the colors are a bit less saturated and it does look as though the one I first provided as a comparison sample was undersaturated (although the original version was clearly too saturated, as I said). Just shows how hard this sort of thing can be. Anyway, the present version is good, or at least close enough.
* As to the title of the page, I will tag it for renaming as suggested.
* Most of the current Toronto subway trains have red seats, but none of the H-series ever did. If someone is remembering an early train with red seats it would be the [[G-series (Toronto subway train)]].