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==Disable overflow in printable version of page==

I thought after the deletion of [[template:scrollref]] that it was determined that it would be too difficult to block scrollboxes from rendering in the printable layout of pages, but it seems like it would be fairly simple now: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Bot_requests&curid=912023&diff=145731448&oldid=145714756#Accessibility_and_printable_layout-breaking_div_markup]. Would someone mind implementing the change? Any time that a div tag has the overflow flag set and obscures content, print users will not be able to see any obscured content in the present form. Doing this via templates has been disabled in Main namespace on the en wiki, but is still in use in the it wiki, as I understand it. At present, a dozen or so user and talk pages are unprintable here, but several real pages are unprintable elsewhere do to [[Template:scrollbox]], but lord only knows how many are using subst'd equivalents or directly put in the div tag. Is there any reason not to make with the fix in the diff linked above? Thanks, [[User:MrZaius|<fontspan colorstyle="color: Blue">'''MrZaius'''</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:MrZaius|'''<fontspan colorstyle="color: Blue">talk</fontspan>''']]} 20:38, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

:That change would not be made by a sysop on this page, it'd be made by a developer on /skins-1.5/common/commonPrint.css, which is not on-wiki. &mdash; [[User:Madman bum and angel|Madman bum and angel]] ([[User talk:Madman bum and angel|talk]] &ndash; [[User:Madman bum and angel/Desk|desk]]) 14:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

::Would <code>@media print</code> work? [[User:Gracenotes|<span style="color:#960;">Grace</span><span style="color:#000;">notes</span>]]^{[[User talk:Gracenotes|<span style="color:#960;">T</span>]]} <span title="MediaWiki talk:Common.js">§</span> 22:59, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

:::I'm not sure if that last comment implies a fix is possible here w/o buggin' the devs, but I believe this change should be made to MediaWiki proper, if the same problem is applicable to all other installations. Reported here: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10654 If I borked the description, would someone mind responding and clarifying? Thanks for all your help, [[User:MrZaius|<fontspan colorstyle="color: Blue">'''MrZaius'''</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:MrZaius|'''<fontspan colorstyle="color: Blue">talk</fontspan>''']]} 17:10, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

::::The devs seem unwilling or unable to fix the problem. Do we have a fix we can implement here? [[User:MrZaius|<fontspan colorstyle="color: Blue">'''MrZaius'''</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:MrZaius|'''<fontspan colorstyle="color: Blue">talk</fontspan>''']]} 20:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

::::: I agree with the comments Simetrical makes at Bugzilla. If we specify a fixed height/scrollable overflow somewhere it should be done properly (e.g. use a CSS class from Common.css and specify an alterative for <code>@media print</code>). However, I doubt scrollboxes have any legitimate uses for the same reasons that {{tl|scrollref}} was deleted. Where are they still used? —''[[User:Ruud Koot|Ruud]]'' 22:32, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

:On the en wiki, primarily user pages and talk pages. On the Italian wiki, they at least ''were'' used for a handful of galleries. Furthermore, not a month goes by without editors on the en wiki popping up the raw code on articles, ignoring the {{tl|scrollref}} TfD. That said, I wouldn't have been surprised at all to see scrollref survive TfD if it hadn't broken printable layouts and raised accessibility concerns. {{tl|scrollbox}} is still in use, although it too has been flagged for TfD by a nom that is solely concerned about this very issue. If it is being used correctly, great - fix it so that it can be safely used without breaking accessibility. If not, block the raw code in main and other namespaces alike. Go halfway, and this will just keep coming up over and over again. [[User:MrZaius|<fontspan colorstyle="color: Blue">'''MrZaius'''</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:MrZaius|'''<fontspan colorstyle="color: Blue">talk</fontspan>''']]} 01:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Common.css and Common.js are not used on the Printable version. Even if they were, this would be for Common.css, not Common.js. &mdash; [[User:Madman bum and angel|Madman bum and angel]] ([[User talk:Madman bum and angel|talk]] &ndash; [[User:Madman bum and angel/Desk|desk]]) 02:01, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

:Does that mean there's no possible rendering fix without dev involvement and no way to completely block overflow from rendering sitewide? If that's the case, seems like we're back to the bot idea and I'd better switch my keep to a delete on {{tl|scrollbox}}'s TfD. [[User:MrZaius|<fontspan colorstyle="color: Blue">'''MrZaius'''</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:MrZaius|'''<fontspan colorstyle="color: Blue">talk</fontspan>''']]} 02:22, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

: They are used on the printable version. —''[[User:Ruud Koot|Ruud]]'' 12:41, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

:: My apologies. You are, of course, correct; I hadn't read enough of the page source. &mdash; [[User:Madman bum and angel|Madman bum and angel]] ([[User talk:Madman bum and angel|talk]] &ndash; [[User:Madman bum and angel/Desk|desk]]) 15:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

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This code should, of course, by put inside the main function for "The Main Page is unavailable" tweaks. <small>—</small>'''[[User:Animum Delivery Bot|<fontspan colorstyle="color: Green">«</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User:Magnus animum|<fontspan colorstyle="color: Green">A<small>NIMUM</small></fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Magnus animum|<fontspan colorstyle="color: Green">»</fontspan>]]''' 16:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

:As another option, adding "newarticletext" as a triggering elementId would activate the script even if they click an edit link. An enterprising vandal might then disable JS, but as Main Page is transcluded onto ten cascade-protected pages, this would do them little good. &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">[[User:Luna Santin|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">'''Luna Santin'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]])</span> 18:20, 11 August 2007 (UTC)