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== "The Simple Project" ==

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It doesn't make much sense to have Basic4Android lumped under "The Simple Project" and then say that The Simple Project is no longer active while Basic4Android is very active. Why not change the heading to "Basic4Android"?

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[[Special:Contributions/71.143.161.236|71.143.161.236]] ([[User talk:71.143.161.236|talk]]) 12:27, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

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== Fragmentation Section ==

This section needs to be both brought up to present and altered in tone from an advocatory "explaining away" of fragmentation issues to an objective reporting of the current state of affairs. Uptake of new Android versions is paralyzed due to manufacturer-specific implementations which can't be upgraded independently by users. Fragmentation is so severe that app and even Web developers are compelled to put extraordinary resources into testing and still can't reliably support all devices.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_os#Usage_share

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-sorry-state-of-android-hardware-fragmentation/19427

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/03/android-fragmentation-also-a-challenge-for-web-developers/ <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.180.5.218|98.180.5.218]] ([[User talk:98.180.5.218|talk]]) 15:43, 7 June 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:This is relevant to 0.9% of the customer base only. "Severe" is quite an overstatement. I have a few things to say about this.

:*Web developers have been encouraged for years to use ems instead of pixels. Different screen sizes are not a problem except for the most ancient of websites.

:*Android toolkit resizes at different resolutions.

:*Resources in apks are at different resolution. (ldpi, mdpi, hdpi and xhdpi)

:*The PC market is way more fragmented.

:As a developer I think this section is a load of selectively-researched FUD. It should go.--[[User:DavidHOzAu|davidh]].[[User talk:DavidHOzAu|oz]].[[Special:Contributions/DavidHOzAu|au]] 05:20, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

== the HyperNext issue ==

this section should be generic and include all such, including Caede at caede.curl.com

G. Robert Shiplett 12:12, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

== ADB ==

=== Merge ADB and Fastboot ===

Should [[Android Debug Bridge]] be merged into this article? I think so [[User:They think it&#39;s all over|They think it&#39;s all over]] ([[User talk:They think it&#39;s all over|talk]]) 19:25, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

:Done. Also merged in the article "Fastboot". If this article ([[Android software development]]) ever gets too large, the entire section "Software development tools" can be summarized and spun off to a new separate article. (I refactored the title of this talk section to include the subtitle: "Merge ADB and Fastboot".) <b>[[User:Sparkie82|<font color="#333333">Sparkie82</font>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Sparkie82|<font color="#666666">t</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Sparkie82|<font color="#666666">c</font>]])</b> 04:37, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

== a handset emulator? ==

I wish that there were more on that, such as, can it be used to run Android apps on one's PC? --[[User:Jerome Charles Potts|Jerome Potts]] ([[User talk:Jerome Charles Potts|talk]]) 03:38, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

== no mention of android studio? ==

http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html#Updating <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.219.59.208|66.219.59.208]] ([[User talk:66.219.59.208|talk]]) 13:09, 12 February 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: There's already a separate article, [[Android Studio]]. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Dsimic|contribs]]) 21:27, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

== "officially supported": Eclipse or Android Studio ?==

I am a little bit puzzled: In Sec. 1.1 someone says: "The officially supported integrated development environment (IDE) is Eclipse using the Android Development Tools (ADT) Plugin, though IntelliJ IDEA IDE (all editions) fully supports Android development out of the box" but when I visit the "Building Your First App" intro on [https://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html https://developer.android.com/] it refers me to the community edition [[Android Studio]]. I am a newbie in Android development, so I would appreciate any clarification. Additionally [[Android Studio]] is labeled on its [https://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html download page] as "The official Android IDE" on 14. Jan. 2015. <small>[[User:Treutwein|Treutwein]] ([[User talk:Treutwein|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Treutwein|contribs]])</small>

== IDE on Android? ==

Hello,

do any of these SDK/IDE run on an Android device? <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/46.5.142.174|46.5.142.174]] ([[User talk:46.5.142.174|talk]]) 16:59, 6 April 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:There are unofficial Android-based dev tools. AIDE is one. I'll look for coverage and see if something can be added to the article. [[User talk:Reach Out to the Truth|Reach Out to the Truth]] 04:17, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

: I agree that this encyclopedia article could use a few more words about developing software for Android directly on the Android device itself.

: This article briefly mentions "on Android itself, ... software development is possible by using specialized Android applications." with references to AIDE and JavaIDEdroid.

: Other tools for developing software for Android directly on the Android device itself include: the Spartacus Rex Terminal IDE ([[Wikibooks: Android/Terminal IDE]]); [http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15078361/writing-python-code-on-android Python on Android]; [http://www.blogbyben.com/2014/09/are-we-there-yet-writing-and-running.html Scheme for Android]; [https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1sdtdo/gnu_forth_for_android/ GNU Forth for Android]; etc.

: Is there a good compromise between not mentioning any of these tools vs. listing all these tools and a bunch of detail on each one?

: On the one hand, I don't want to leave people who read this article, like the above commenter, with the incorrect impression that software to run on Android *must* always be written and compiled on some "full-size" computer.

: On the other hand, I don't want to go into so much detail on so many "developing on the Android device itself" tools that we give the incorrect impression that software to run on Android *is* usually written and compiled on the Android device itself.

: Does that help? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] ([[User talk:DavidCary|talk]]) 05:16, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

== SCSK (Tokyo) CAEDE cross-platform framework ==

SCSK (Tokyo) CAEDE cross-platform framework not even mentioned although based on MIT's Curl expression-based programming language developed as a web alternative to LISP.

[[Special:Contributions/99.251.239.140|99.251.239.140]] ([[User talk:99.251.239.140|talk]]) 13:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

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