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'''Computer-Aided Scouting :''' - While human scouts are far more recognized throughout the history of sports. Computer-Aided Scouting is being noticed for being far more accurate and predictable and is being used in the NBA, MLB, and the NFL for over a decade. Computer-aided Scouting allows far more data, information, and organization on the simpliest and convienant levels for a scout, or professional. Software programs allow all of the important information and statistical data to project and separate one potential NBA player from the next. ScoutingGurus is a familiar term which is associated with the in depth accuracy of '''Computer-aided Scouting'''.<br />

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'''Computer-aided sports scouting''' is the use of data analysis by computer to assist sports [[Scout (sport)|scouts]] to identify and recruit new talented players. Pioneers like [[Bill James]] began to analyze the data and apply mathematical principals and new non-conventional formulas to predict success and failures of a baseball player or team, a development called [[sabermetrics]]. The foundation of computer-aided scouting is statistics.

==Critics circle==

== Scouting Tiers==

Computer-aided scouting began as a means for scouts and managers to log mass amounts of player and team information compiled from [[box score]]s, stat-sheets and personalized specific information pertaining to players and teams. This information was interpreted through mathematical formulas created from research studies of each sport. Once this information was tabulated, team personnel begin to implement these results into the game. After early positive results, many professional teams adopted mathematical tools for player and game management.

Each Tier below is based on the totals of 4 Categories which combined places a player into a specific rating Tier listed below. <br />

[[MLB]] and the [[NBA]] begin to employ these analysis and move them into prominent roles inside their teams as Scouts to even General Managers. The marriage between Computer-aided Scouting and human eye Scouting has been at odds for over a decade. Both ways of scouting have proven to be as viable and valuable as the other.{{Citation needed|date=July 2014}} The NCAA has adapted a rating system produced by [[Jeff Sagarin]] that uses computer-aided scouting to a science to better understand the strength and weaknesses of a team as a rating.

Tier I - Franchise Player at the next level at the end of his first contract. 10.00+<br />

Tier II - Very good lottery pick almost a cant miss prospect. 9.00 - 9.99<br />

Tier III - Dependable lottery pick 8.00 - 8.99<br />

Tier IV and V - These players normally are all first round picks value but may fall into 2nd rd.7.00 - 7.99<br />

Tier VI - Early Second Round Value 6.00 - 6.99 <br />

Tier VII - Mid Second Round Value 5.50 - 5.99<br />

Tier VIII - Late Second Round Value 5.00 - 5.49 <br />

Tier IX - Third Round Value 4.50 - 4.99 <br />

Tier X - Mid to Late Third round Value 4.00 -4.49<br />

Computer-aided scouting has adapted mathematical formulas by taking into account an existing or potential players value to his team, his physical attributes, and even projected success/failures against a variety of situations and potential opponents. Some of these methods have been published by members of [[sabermetrics]] for [[baseball]] and [[APBRmetrics|APBR]] for [[basketball]].

==NBA Draft Classes==

==References==

'''2004 Draft Class'''<br />

{{Reflist}}

2004 Tier I Players - Emeka Okafor <br />

2004 Tier II Players - Loul Deng, and Andre Iguodala<br />

2004 Tier III Players - Jarrett Jack, Delonte West, Blake Stepp, Luke Jackson, Ben Gordon, Devin Harris<br />

2004 Tier IV Players - no draftable player rated in this level of the Draft.

2004 Tier V Players - Jameer Nelson, Kirk Snyder, Josh Childress, Chris Duhon, Rafael Araujo

==External links==

''' 2005 Draft Class''' <br />

* [http://www.hoopsworld.com/ HoopsWorld]

2005 Tier I Players - There were none..<br />

* {{webarchive |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930070741/http://scoutingthenba.com/index.htm |title=ScoutingtheNba |date=2007-09-30}}

2005 Tier II Players - Chris Paul, Andrew Bogut, Deron Williams, <br />

* [http://82games.com/ 82games]

2005 Tier III Players - Raymond Felton, Marvin Williams, Rashad McCants, Sean May, Charlie Villaneuva, Francisco Garcia, Hakim Warrick, Danny Granger, Channing Frye, and Julius Hodge.<br />

* [https://web.archive.org/web/20080817032744/http://search.espn.go.com/john-hollinger/ John Hollinger Espn]

2005 Tier IV Players - Wayne Simien <br />

* {{webarchive |url=http://webarchive.loc.gov/all/20011116033513/http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/sports.html |title=Jeff Sagarin |date=2001-11-16}}

2005 Tier IV Players - Taylor Coppenrath, Brandon Bass, Ike Diogu, Ryan Gomes, Luther Head, Nate Robinson, Aaron Miles, and Dijon Thompson.

[[Category:NBA draft]]

''' 2006 Draft Class'''<br />

2006 Tier I - JJ Redick, Marcus Williams, Brandon Roy, Adam Morrison<br />

2006 Tier II - Rudy Gay, Tyrus Thomas, Shelden Williams, Shawne Williams, LaMarcus Alderidge,<br />

2006 Tier III - Ronnie Brewer, Rodney Carney, Josh Boone, and Bobby Jones <br />

2006 Tier IV - Maurice Ager, Randy Foye, Patrick OBryant,

2006 Tier V - Paul Davis, Hilton Armstrong, Paul Milsap, Shannon Brown, Jordan Farmer, Terrell Everett, Mardy Collins, Kevin Pittsnogle, Daniel Horton, Rajon Rondo, and Cedric Simmons

'''2007 Draft Class'''<br />

2007 Tier I - Kevin Durant, Greg Oden, Mike Conley<br />

2007 Tier II - Jeff Green, Al Horford, Rodney Stuckey, Joakim Noah,<br />

2007 Tier III - Josh McRoberts, Javaris Crittenton, Corey Brewer, Mustafa Shakur, Marcus Williams, Aaron Gray, Nick Fazekas, Julian Wright, DJ Strawberry, Brandan Wright, and Glen Davis.<br />

2007 Tier IV - Dominic McGuire, Arron Afflalo, Alando Tucker, Sean Williams, Randolph Morris, and Spencer Hawes<br />

2007 Tier V - Daequan Cook, Wilson Chandler, Thaddeus Young, Jeremy Hunt, Jason Smith, James Mays, Jared Dudley, Acie LawIV, Reyshawn Terry, Morris Almond, Ivan Radenovic, Jermareo Davidson, Demetrius Nichols, and Sammy Mejia

==Historic NBA Projections==

Each year NCAA players may opt to return to their respected colleges. '''Computer-aided Scouting''' projects the best returning players and where they project in next years draft. This gives scouts and fans a much broader understanding of the abilities these players have and project into the next level. The [[ScoutingGuru]] list the Top IV Tiers returning into the collegiate ranks 6 months before the next season is to begin.<br />

'''Computer-aided Scouting Projects the upcoming year 2008 (08/01/07)'''<br />

2008 prj. Tier I - Roy Hibbert <br />

2008 prj. Tier II - Ty Lawson, Darren Collison<br />

2008 prj. Tier III - Chase Budinger, Chris Douglas-Roberts, Tyler Hansbrough, Wayne Ellington, and Josh Carter <br />

2008 prj. Tier IV - Greivis Vasquez, James Gist, Kyle Weaver, Derrick Jasper, Terrence Williams, Chris Lofton, and Luke Nevill<br />

2008 prj. Tier V - Obi Muonelo, Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Richard Hendrix, Jamont Gordon, Lawrence Hill, Eric Devendorf, Ben McCauley, Brandon Costner, Wayne Chism, Jerel McNeal, Scottie Reynolds, Brandon Rush, Martin Zeno, Jason Richards, Shan Foster, Tyrese Rice, and DJ White

'''Computer-aided Scouting Projected the upcoming year 2007 by [[ScoutingGuru]]'''<br />

2007 prj. Tier I - no returning players rated this high..<br />

2007 prj. Tier II - Roy Hibbert, Joakim Noah, Nick Fazekas, and Rodney Stuckey,<br />

2007 prj. Tier III - Jeff Green, Glen Davis, Al Horford, Corey Brewer, Marcus Williams(UofA), Tyler Hansbrough, Josh McRoberts, and Jason Smith <br />

2007 prj. Tier IV - Jared Dudley, Tasmin Mitchell, and Jason Smith<br />

'''Computer-aided Scouting Projected the upcoming year 2006 by [[ScoutingGuru]]'''<br />

2006 prj. Tier I - Marcus Williams <br />

2006 prj. Tier II - Adam Morrison<br />

2006 prj. Tier III - JJ Redick, Brandon Roy, Ronnie Brewer, Nick Fazekas, Josh Boone, and Shelden Williams<br />

2006 prj. Tier IV - Rudy Gay, Jeff Green, Jared Dudley, and Jose Juan Barea <br />

'''Computer-aided Scouting Projected the upcoming year 2005 [[ScoutingGuru]]'''<br />

2005 prj. Tier I - Marcus Williams (Uconn)<br />

2005 prj.Tier II - Chris Paul, Rashad McCants, Charlie Villanueva, Julius Hodge, Deron Williams, Shelden Williams<br />

2005 prj. Tier III - Raymond Felton, Francisco Garcia, JJ Redick, Danny Granger, Channing Frye, John Gilchrist, and Hakim Warrick<br />

2005 prj.Tier IV - Sean May, Wayne Simien, Brandon Roy, Adam Morrison<br />

==Critics Circle==

ScoutingGuru is also been loosely used to describe GMs or scouts that find talent that defies the main stream scouts and media. When this player is brought in as a free agent there isn't much fanfare, but if he is drafted the critics come out in droves to criticize that teams scouting department for not taking a mainstream hyped player. The criticism is mainly created by the media and fans to support their lack of understanding or knowledge of a players potential. These players are also known as '''flying under the radar'''

==ScoutingGuru outside influences==

In some way or another each of the following

* [[Mark Cuban]]

* [[Rob Babcock]]

* Pete Babcock

* Portland Trailblazer Scouting Staff

* Draft Express

* [[Isiah Thomas]]

==External Links==

* [http://www.hoopsworld.com/ HoopsWorld]<br />

* [http://www.scoutingthenba.com/index.htm/ ScoutingtheNba]<br />

* [http://82games.com/ 82games]<br />

Basketball statistics

[[]Category:National Basketball Association Draft]]

[[Category:NBA Scout]]