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:::I didn't know it was up for deletion. I don't watch all articles I've ever edited. I like to maintain my sanity. :) — [[User:Stevietheman|<span style="color:white; background-color: green;"> '''Stevie is the man!''' </span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Stevietheman|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Stevietheman|Work]]</sup> 22:10, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
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::::Oh, I thought that you meant you were the one who nominated it for deletion. Is it forbidden to bring it back now? [[User:Mkb218|matt kane's brain]] 12:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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--[[User:Ramu50|Ramu50]] ([[User talk:Ramu50|talk]]) 23:13, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
== Bash ==
Why is Bash listed as a language, rather than "shell script" or "bourne shell scripting"?
Bash is a single shell implementation.
It's not even used on many unixlikes: BSDs, etc.
== Lua ==
Looking at this, and I realize this is always an arbitrary point, but I wonder why [[Lua (programming language)|Lua]] is not included? [[User:Comrade Graham|Technopeasant]] ([[User talk:Comrade Graham|talk]]) 22:14, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
== Criteria and status ==
I am confused by [[#Deleted]], since recent edits have added invocations on several pages. Also, I don't see any discussion of criteria. Is there any reason not to list
* [[PL/I]]
* [[Rexx]]
* [[Raku (programming language)|Raku]] (Perl 6)
"Assembly" is listed as a language but it is actually a type of languages, and the syntax of assemblers varies drastically even for a single machine. [[User:Chatul|Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul]] ([[User talk:Chatul|talk]]) 15:33, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
== Removing recent additions ==
I recently removed two languages that were added (cc {{u|Poppodoms}}), [[ArkTS]] and [[Cangjie (programming language)]], as they both very recent, [[Huawei]]-developed languages that as far as I know do not have wide usage and have not influenced other languages. My removal was reverted and so I'm opening a discussion here. I think if anyone else wants to remove them per [[WP:BRD]], that would be fine, otherwise I will remove them if there's no strong argument for retaining them in the next few days, also per [[WP:BRD]]. [[User:Skynxnex|Skynxnex]] ([[User talk:Skynxnex|talk]]) 18:13, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
:That second criteria should be the argument to also remove Apple Swift, because it have also not influenced other languages, it is only Apple centric. And there other programming languages that have no wide usage that are on the list as well. So I challenge this argument [[User:Poppodoms|Poppodoms]] ([[User talk:Poppodoms|talk]]) 06:54, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
:If you want to make this site, this encyclopaedia that is part of it's objective, the free encyclopaedia with a global logo of symbols and languages. Make it global and objective for the world, the world to be informed in a changing emerging market with an emerging 3rd mobile platform with 900 million install base and 4% global market share outside 17% local market share over Apple iOS, then it should not be reduced to being US centric in this subject matter of programming languages, technologies, don't make it geopolitical nor "US/Western" only. You said, these new programming languages are "not significant" because it's "not widely used" = your assumption is "Chinese centric", "local", there are programming languages on the list from US and few European markets that are not "widely used" outside the United States and Western Europe, outside smaller western markets. So, make the list objective and keep Wikipedia global in wide information. I will continue to make the strong argument for this case and will continue to do so for the next few days until it is resolved in keeping this list at a balance, fair and objective list. [[User:Poppodoms|Poppodoms]] ([[User talk:Poppodoms|talk]]) 07:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
::i agree with poppodoms, he's right. [[User:XeVierTech|XeVierTech]] ([[User talk:XeVierTech|talk]]) 08:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
::The proper place for these two languages are in [[List of programming languages]] (which I notice you haven't added them to), not the limited space in the template. I agree that it's important to make sure the list isn't western-centric but nothing I've read suggests that either language comes close to overall impact as any of the other languages listed. [[ArkTS]], for example, is mostly cited to first-party sources and press release-style news.
::For example, if I noticed and thought about it how I happened to in this case, I probably would argue that [[Dart (programming language)]] should not be on the list, even though it's from Google and used as the language of Flutter. Lists like this are hard but more valuable to the reader if we keep them to languages that have had impact on programming languages in general, which Swift (partly due to its age now) has had. But we're not discussing every entry right now, just these two which are completely out of line compared to the others. [[User:Skynxnex|Skynxnex]] ([[User talk:Skynxnex|talk]]) 12:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Exactly, now you get it, that's all. Make it balanced. I get what you are saying, I agree with you when it comes to less notable like Dart. [[User:Poppodoms|Poppodoms]] ([[User talk:Poppodoms|talk]]) 12:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Based my knowledge and some new searching, Dart (which is not currently in this template, to be clear) is significantly more notable, and impacts more platforms, than either language you added. [[User:Skynxnex|Skynxnex]] ([[User talk:Skynxnex|talk]]) 13:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::I am aware that Google's Dart is older and more notable than 2021 eTS (extended TypeScript)/now called ArkTS and recent 2024 Cangjie (after rumours of such in-house language since 2020). [[User:Poppodoms|Poppodoms]] ([[User talk:Poppodoms|talk]]) 13:02, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::Dart is from 2011 [[User:Poppodoms|Poppodoms]] ([[User talk:Poppodoms|talk]]) 13:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
:::On the list of programming languages, yes it will be appropriate to add ArkTS and Cangjie on that link itself. [[User:Poppodoms|Poppodoms]] ([[User talk:Poppodoms|talk]]) 12:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
:I've removed them again per [[WP:BRD]], the discussion above, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard&oldid=1234492060#User:Poppodoms the COIN discussion]. I think affirmative consensus should be needed to re-add these to languages going forward. [[User:Skynxnex|Skynxnex]] ([[User talk:Skynxnex|talk]]) 18:14, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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