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| Name = [[Image:Eminemlogo(trans).png|50px|Eminem]]

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| Background = solo_singer

| Birth_name = Marshall Bruce Mathers IIII

| Alias = Slim Shady

| Born = [[October 17]], [[1972]]

| Origin = [[Detroit, Michigan|Detroit]], [[Michigan]], [[USA]]

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| Genre = [[Hip hop]]<br>[[Rap]]

| Occupation = Rapper, Producer, Actor

| Years_active = [[1996 in music|1996]] – present

| Label = [[Aftermath Entertainment]]<br>[[Shady Records]]<br>[[Goliath Artists]]<br>[[Interscope Records]]

| Associated_acts = [[Dr. Dre]], [[D12]], [[50cent]]

| URL = [http://www.eminem.com/ www.eminem.com]

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'''Marshall Bruce Mathers III''' (born [[October 17]] [[1972]]), better known by his [[stage name]] '''Eminem''', is a [[Grammy Award|Grammy]] and [[Academy Award]]-winning [[United States|American]] [[rapping|rapper]] and occasional [[actor]].

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He was born in [[Saint Joseph, Missouri]][http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:59klu3ljan6k~T1], and was raised in [[Metro Detroit|Detroit]]. Discovered by rapper and producer [[Dr. Dre]], Eminem got his big break when signing to Dre's [[Aftermath Entertainment]] and became a [[crossover (music)|crossover]] sensation with his debut single "[[My Name Is]]" while simultaneously earning respect for his technical and lyrical ability.

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Eminem is noted for his ability to change his vocal pace and style multiple times within one song without losing the [[Beat (music)|beat]], and has been praised for his skill in [[alliteration]] and [[assonance]]. He's also infamous for the controversy surrounding many of his lyrics. With the enormous success of his highly acclaimed album ''[[The Marshall Mathers LP]]'' and its subsequent nomination for four Grammy awards including Album of the Year, critics such as [[Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation|GLAAD]] denounced his lyrics as [[Homophobia|homophobic]] and [[Misogyny|misogynist]], while others protested that it promoted violence.

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==Vital articles and Release Version==

The most recent release from Aftermath was a greatest coon tunes album from Eminem called'' [[Curtain Call: The Hits]]'' in 2005, a compilation covering many of his previous commercial hit songs, in addition to three new tracks. Mathers has stated that he is taking a break from solo work, but is in no way retiring as he continues to produce and collaborate with his fellow Aftermath artists as well as G-Unit artists and rappers under his [[Shady Records]] label.

Hi, I debated about the articles in [[Wikipedia talk:Vital articles#Eurocentreism]]. How can we add the results in the Release Version.--<font face="monospace">[[User:Sa.vakilian|Sa.vakilian]]([[User talk:Sa.vakilian|t]]-[[Special:Contributions/Sa.vakilian|c]])</font> 15:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:Why are you asking me this? I haven't worked that area. What exactly are you looking for?[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 17:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== The BBC source ==

To date, Eminem has sold above 70 million albums worldwide. He is, according to the [[Guinness World Records]], the fastest-selling rap artist as ''The Marshall Mathers LP'' went to sell over 1.7 million domestic copies in its first week.

The BBC source which you have removed from the article was not a part of the conflict. It was removed by Dahn by mistake. See my talkpage for confirmation. --[[User:Anittas|Thus Spake Anittas]] 20:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

==Biography==

:I don't see anything by Dahn that says it was a mistake. The protection is for 24hours, it can be worked out then.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 20:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

===Early life===

::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anittas#Sorry He said the source was okay], but even if he didn't, could you please use some common sense? BBC is usually reliable, is it not? --[[User:Anittas|Thus Spake Anittas]] 20:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

By most accounts, the Mathers family was poor, which was the primary reason for their constant moves, during which Marshall and his mother would often find themselves living in [[trailers]], [[mobile home]]s, and under the care of relatives. From time to time they would also live in their car (this is where Eminem's little brother was born. During this time, Debbie Mathers was taking the prescription medications [[Vicodin]] and [[Diazepam|Valium]]; Marshall Mathers later claimed in numerous interviews and songs that his mother was abusing the drugs,[http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1436917/09152000/eminem.jhtml] to which she retaliated with a lawsuit pressing defamation charges (see below). In the song "Cleaning Out My Closet" (''The Eminem Show'', 2002), Mathers also accuses his mother of having [[Munchausen Syndrome#Fabricated and Induced Illness (Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy)|Munchausen syndrome by proxy]], adding that "my whole life I was made to believe I was sick when I wasn't." This was not the first time someone had suggested she had the disorder; a social worker had made similar comments following a 1996 investigation of her mistreatment of her second child, [[Nathan Samra-Mathers]].

::I am, you are in the middle of a bitter edit war and I'm forcing a time out hoping to get cooler heads to prevail, everyone needs to calm down. And your "could you please use some common sense" comment isn't going to score you any points. You have a long block history, hopefully you've learned something. If you prefer, I can unprotect the page and then block both of you from all editing.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 21:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:::How long would the block last? --[[User:Anittas|Thus Spake Anittas]] 21:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

::Anonimu -- 1 week, Annittas -- one month due to multiple prior blocks and long history of this sort of editing. Take your pick, but note the page is only protected for 24 hours and it such edit wars reoccur you could get blocked indef again. [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 21:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:::I don't think that would be fair. For starters, it was he who removed my sources (vandalism) and committed the first 3RV; secondly, I was the one who asked the moderators to step in, but no one did; thirdly, my block history only contains one such incident, while his block history contains two such incidents -- altough I don't really see the relevancy in that. Anyway, I just wanted to say that both Dahn and he seems to accept the BBC source. If you check the Nicolae Ceausescu article, Anonimu accepted the source, but added his own version of "show trial," which I can also accept. I don't know why, but you moderators come to salvation at exactly the wrong time: when everything is solved, you show up. I'm not trying to be ungrateful, I just think it's funny. In my opinion, I should get 3 days and he should get 6 days, because he was also rude, making a sexual insultive remark by saying "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elena_Ceau%C5%9Fescu&action=history let's get blown]." What he means is that I need to get laid. He often insults me this way in another forum and this time, he made this remark on Wiki -- and yet I don't complain about that. But okay, I can wait 24 hours and readd the BBC source, but I don't think you, or any other administrator, have -- or should have --, the authority to place indef blocks on anyone for a simple matter such as this one. --[[User:Anittas|Thus Spake Anittas]] 21:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

::It's fair based on your prior block history and follows wiki policy--you have 7 or so prior blocks and he two and you were indef blocked once for several months, all the way to Jimbo. If he and you have a long history of such conflicts, you may want to consider mediation or [[WP:ANI]].[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 21:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:::I think you're using the American rationale on this; as when one committs three crimes, they go to jail for some 30 years or so. I have read about a kid who stole a bike and got some 20 or 30 years in jail, because it was his third felony. I think this is madness, but what I think doesn't matter so much. Can you show me where this policy says that one can get indef block in a scenario like this one, or can you take actions as you wish?

:::As for my past block history, two of my blocks were reverted and Jimbo's block, as I had said earlier, was for something totally different; altough, I'm not sure that would make any difference in your book. --[[User:Anittas|Thus Spake Anittas]] 21:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Mathers was especially close to his uncle, Ronald "Ronnie" Polkingharn, who was born just three months before him, on July 27, 1972. Polkingharn introduced Mathers to hip-hop and the two were best friends. On December 14, 1991, 19-year-old Polkingharn committed suicide, an event which Mathers has said was devastating, not just to him but to the entire extended family. Ronnie Nelson's older brother Steven suffered a stroke as a result of the stress. Mathers was so distraught he abandoned his musical career for a year. References to Ronnie's death appear in several songs, including "Stan", "Cleaning Out My Closet", "Mockingbird," and "My Dad's Gone Crazy." Mathers has a tattoo on his upper left arm that says "Ronnie R.I.P."

==Block==

Why have you blocked me? I was not involved in war edits, and I have not broken the 3RR. [User:Afrika_paprika]] did many mass reverts, against my referencied edits. I've defended 4 articles against the vandalism of a notorius troll. That's my right: Afrika is a multi banned user. It was [[User:AjdemiPopushi]], a sockpuupet of him, to report me a a breaker of the 2RR. So I am clean and I did not "plus edit warring". Meanwhile I ws blcoked this usere did sever other vandalism against severe articles. Best regard.--[[User:Giovanni Giove|Giovanni Giove]] 22:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:Ademji has now been id'd as a sock of afrika and indefinitely blocked, but this was not known and in the 3RR report filed. If I'd known that, the result would certainly have been different as there was definitely an edit war on the Ragusa article. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, but I went on what was known at the time and in the 3RR report.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 22:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:: I was sure you was just doing your work. Please copy this message on my page. Not there is again the same problem, and the article should be sprotected. It is true; there is a war about Ragusa: that why I did several edits on each single points. All the edits must be referncied: that what I did. Thank you.--[[User:Giovanni Giove|Giovanni Giove]] 16:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

== Removing warnings from talk pages ==

Before dropping out of Lincoln High School in Warren at the age of 17 (after failing ninth grade three times), Mathers made a number of significant acquaintances at the school one of them included Evan Perks a 3 time chess champion that got shot in a drive by and also included the late rapper [[Proof (rapper)|Proof]], who was to become one of his closest friends, and future wife [[Kim Mathers|Kimberly Ann "Kim" Scott]], with whom he soon developed a long-term relationship. When she became [[pregnant]], Mathers started working on getting a record deal to support his new family; He discusses this in "Never 2 Far" (''[[Infinite (album)|Infinite]]'', 1996), saying "I got a baby on the way, I don't even got a car...I still stay with my moms...we gotta make some hit records or something [because] I'm tired of being broke..." When the ''Infinite'' album failed to generate the revenue and acclaim he had hoped for, she ended their relationship, preventing him from seeing his newborn child, a daughter named [[Hailie Jade Scott]] (born [[December 25]], [[1995]]); distraught, he attempted [[suicide]] with an [[overdose]] of [[Tylenol]]. After the attempt failed, he resumed his efforts to succeed in the music industry and reconcile with his ex-girlfriend.(Linda Swanna) [http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/eminem/bio.jhtml] He ultimately succeeded in doing both, marrying her on [[June 14]], [[1999]], in [[Saint Joseph, Missouri]]. Mathers would go on to mention his daughter extensively in some of his songs, including "'97 Bonnie & Clyde" (''The Slim Shady LP'', 1999), which takes the form of a one-sided [[dialogue]] with [[Hailie]], as well as "Hailie's Song" (''The Eminem Show'', 2002), "Mockingbird" (‘‘Encore’’, 2004), and "When I'm Gone" (''Curtain Call: The Hits'', 2005), all of which are proclamations of his love and dedication to her. In addition, he samples her voice in the track "My Dad's Gone Crazy" (''The Eminem Show'', 2002).

Have the rules changed on removing warnings from one's own talk page? According to [[WP:UP]], "On a user's own talk page, policy does not prohibit the removal of comments at that user's discretion, although archival is preferred to removal. Please note, though, that removing warnings from one's own talk page is often frowned upon."

===Early career===

Interested in rap from a younger age, Mathers began performing as early as 13, later gaining some popularity with the group, [[Soul Intent]]. In 1996, he released an independent underground album, named ''[[Infinite (album)|Infinite]]'' The album received much airplay and a mixed critical response, with people claiming Eminem's rapping style sounded too similar to Vanilla Ice. It was after this, that drugs, drama and negativity spread in his life. Mathers followed ''Infinite'' with ''[[The Slim Shady EP]]'' demo, which saw his lyrics take a decidedly darker turn, in songs like "No One's Iller" and "Murder Murder", the latter in which he talks about having to commit crimes to feed his daughter. He became famous in the hip-hop underground because of his distinctive, cartoonish style and the fact that he was [[White (people)|white]] in a predominantly black genre. Fellow rapper [[Snoop Dogg]] refers to him as rap's "great white American hope" in the song "[[Bitch Please II]]" off of Eminem's ''Marshall Mathers LP.''

The way I read it, it is neither against policy nor considered vandalism for one to remove warnings from his own user talk page. It is merely ''frowned upon.'' Has this policy changed? If so, perhaps a change to the guideline page is in order. --[[User:Tjsynkral|Tjsynkral]] 23:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Eminem had done a notable amount of work with fellow Detroit emcee [[Royce da 5'9"]] early in his career. They referred to themselves as Bad Meets Evil, with Eminem playing the evil and Royce playing the bad in the song of the same name on ''The Slim Shady LP''. Royce da 5'9" and Eminem were considered to be two of the best underground emcees in Detroit and were both respected for their battling skills. The Jay-Z song "Renagade" uses Eminem's verses from a song originally done with Royce called "Renegade". The song's first verse ends with the words, "Royce, he's the king of Detroit..." which was replaced with Eminem making beat box noises for Jay-Z's "Renagade" (note that the two songs are spelled slightly differently). Eminem makes a reference to Jay-Z using his verses in a song when he claims "Go bring Jay-Z, tell him I'm a ghost-write for him on Dre's beats" from "Stir Crazy" that he recorded with [[The Madd Rapper]].

::Think of it this way, if you remove warnings, what is it you're trying to hide? You would merely be putting yourself in an even worse position.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 23:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:::If the warning were to be used against me later, it could be easily retrieved from the history page. I reserve the right to perform "housekeeping" on my own user page. Furthermore when users make incorrect allegations am I supposed to leave them on my User Talk page even though they are false? --[[User:Tjsynkral|Tjsynkral]] 23:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:::: Note: An [[WP:AN/I#Administrator_inaction_toward_3RR_Talk_Page_Vandalism.2C_or_clarification_of_User_Talk_Page_policy|incident has been opened]] regarding this matter. --[[User:Tjsynkral|Tjsynkral]] 23:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

While the two were great friends and had mutual respect for one another both personally and musically, they eventually had a falling out. Royce later had an altercation with D12 and made numerous songs defaming and disrespecting the group; however, very few lines were aimed at Eminem himself, none of which were direct attacks. The relationship between the two is unknown at the moment but no talks of a collaboration have surfaced. Recent rumors suggest that the argument was subdued prior to Proof's death.

Okay, thanks for the reply. {{User:Brain40/Sig.}}

It is said that rap artist and producer [[Dr. Dre]] found Mathers' demo on [[Interscope Records]] president [[Jimmy Iovine]]'s garage floor. While this did not directly lead to a recording contract, Dr. Dre agreed to sign Mathers when he won second place versus [[Otherwize]], (though some sources say it was, in fact, MC Juice who defeated him) at the 1997 Rap Olympics [[freestyle battle]]. Other sources state that an executive at the offices of Interscope handed the demo to Iovine who passed it to Dre, which resulted in a contract.

:Well, in my opinion, warnings should be left on a talk page to make referencing easier for the administrators. Well, back to patrolling the recent changes area. Good luck with things. {{User:Brain40/Sig.}}

::Could you direct me to the template that says "this article uses content from the 1999 Encyclopedia Americana"? {{User:Brain40/Sig.}}

::I don't know myself and a quick search didn't reveal it.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 23:44, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== Removal of warnings on user talk pages ==

===Success===

From what I've seen in discussions on the administrator's forums, the new, but apparently unwritten policy is that editors are allowed to remove warnings from their user talk pages if they want to. Removing a warning is considered acknowledgement by the editor in question that they have seen the warning. [[User:Cla68|Cla68]] 02:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[[Image:MarshallMathersLP.jpg|right|thumb|85pix|Album cover of ''The Marshall Mathers LP'' (2000)]]

:So someone gets a valid vandism notice, removes it, gets reported to AIV and the admin checks to see if they have been warned and has to dig through history pages to find it? Ha, I'll stop fighting vandals if I have to do that.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 02:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

::I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with new "rule" or not, just letting you know what seems to be the situation now from what I've read on the admin pages. One of the reasons may be due to instances of editors harrassing other editors with warning banners and then arguing back and forth about whether the warning was justified or not. [[User:Cla68|Cla68]] 03:17, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi there rlevse...I appreciate your work on this, as tj continually removed the warning I attempted to post on his user page...which, ironically, was the 3rr rule on another page. [[User:TotallyTempo|TotallyTempo]] 02:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

At Aftermath/Interscope, Mathers released ''The Slim Shady LP'', which went on to be one of the most popular albums of 1999, going [[RIAA certification|triple platinum]] by the end of the year. It moved nearly 1.5 million units in it's opening week. With the album's enormous popularity came controversy surrounding many of the album's lyrics. In "'97 Bonnie and Clyde", he describes a trip with his infant daughter, disposing of the body of his wife. Another song, "Guilty Conscience," ends with him encouraging a man to murder his wife and her lover. "Guilty Conscience" also marked the beginning of the powerful friendship and musical bond that Dr. Dre and Eminem would share. The two label-mates would later collab on a line of hit songs, including "[[Forgot About Dre]]" and "What's The Differrence" from Dr. Dre's highly acclaimed album [[2001 (album)|2001]].

Hi, as a student of the Charter School of Wilmington, I appreciate your help in banning that vandal.

''The Marshall Mathers LP'' was released in May 2000, quickly selling two million copies. It was the fastest selling rap album of all time. The first single released from the album, the hit: ''[[The Real Slim Shady]]'', was a huge hit, thanks in part to the catchy rhythm and chorus line, "Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?" (adapted from the catch phrase of the TV quiz show ''[[To Tell the Truth]]''). It also created some buzz by insulting celebrities and making dubious claims about them; he implies, among other things, that [[Christina Aguilera]] performed [[oral sex]] on [[Fred Durst]] (of [[Limp Bizkit]]) and [[Carson Daly]] (of [[MTV]]'s ''[[Total Request Live]]''). "The Real Slim Shady" is widely considered to be Eminem's "signature" and best commercial single. In his second single, "[[The Way I Am (Eminem song)|The Way I Am]]," he reveals to his fans the pressures from his record company to top "My Name Is" and sell more records, and dismisses the alleged controversial link between music such as that of [[Marilyn Manson (band)|Marilyn Manson]] and shootings such as [[Columbine High School]] as absurd, instead blaming the parents. In the third single, "[[Stan (song)|Stan]]" (which samples [[Dido (singer)|Dido]]'s "Thank you"), Eminem attempts to deal with his new-found fame, taking on the perspective of a deranged fan who kills himself and his pregnant girlfriend, mirroring "'97 Bonnie & Clyde" on ''The Slim Shady LP''. To this date, "The Marshall Mathers LP" is widely considered to be Eminem's greatest achievement, and a hip-hop classic.

--[[User:CmaccompH89|CmaccompH89]] 02:46, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

::No problem.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 02:47, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

== Scouting / child abuse / censorship ==

Mathers' third major album, ''The Eminem Show'', was released in summer 2002 and proved to be another smash hit for the rapper shooting to number one on the charts and selling well over 1 million copies in its first week of release. It featured the single "[[Without Me]]", an apparent sequel to "The Real Slim Shady", in which he makes derogatory comments about [[boy band]]s, [[Limp Bizkit]], [[Moby]], and [[Lynne Cheney]], among others. The album reflected on the impact of his rise to fame, his relationship with his wife and daughter, and his status in the hip-hop community. He also addresses the charges he faced over assaulting a [[doorman|bouncer]] he saw kissing his wife in 2000. While there is clear anger present on several tracks, this album was considerably less inflammatory than the previous, and as such did not face any protests of misogyny and homophobia that had plagued ''The Marshall Mathers LP''.

Just seen your note calling me a troll. This is uncalled for:

2004 saw the release of Mathers' fourth major album, ''Encore''. The album was another chart-topper for the rapper, driven by the formulaic single "[[Just Lose It]]", notable for its lampooning of [[Michael Jackson]]. Despite the comedic theme of the lead single, ''Encore'' also had its fair share of serious subject matter, including the poignant anti-war track "[[Mosh]]". By the end of 2005 Mathers was back with a new single, "[[When I'm Gone]]", recorded for the greatest-hits set ''Curtain Call: The Hits''.

1) My (extremely cautious) raising of the controversial issue of child abuse on the scouting page is what brought about your comment. The subsequent discussion seems mature and thoughtful so far - by contrast your comment seems unfair and (just possibly) defensive.

Mathers has achieved six UK #1 singles, more than any other rapper, and has also had the most #1 singles in the UK in the 21st century by an American artist and also it makes him the best selling music artist of the 21st Century so far.

2) What exactly did I do to deserve your abuse? Was it raising the issue in the first place? Providing a reference to what seems to be a major US news story? Or was it (and here I may have been a little naive) noticing a book being cited by another editor (on child abuse and scouting) and believing the simple addition of a mention of this book would improve the comprehensiveness of the scouting page (I had not come across the book before it was mentioned in discussion - but I see there is something of a technical problem, in that there is no easy way to list this book, the scouting page having no "Further reading" section, where it might most comfortably belong)?

===Legal troubles===

Mathers' rise to celebrity ushered the beginning of his numerous legal troubles. The first of these was his mother's lawsuit against him in September of that year. The lawsuit was motivated by comments on her drug use made in song ''My Name Is'', specifically the lyric "I just found out my mom does more dope than I do," "..make a record about doing drugs and name it after her", and similar accusations in numerous interviews. She denied the statements and demanded more than $10 million in damages for defamation in two lawsuits. After rumors of Debbie dropping the suit, she reached a settlement with her son in 2001 for $25,000, with over $23,000 of it going to her former attorney, [[Fred Gibson]], by a court order.<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1446458/08082001/eminem.jhtml</ref> Debbie's request for reconsideration of the settlement was denied by a judge.<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1444814/06272001/eminem.jhtml</ref> Mathers' resentful reflections on the case can be heard on the songs "Marshall Mathers" (''The Marshall Mathers LP'', 2000) in the lyrics "my fuckin' bitch mom is suing for 10 million/ she must want a dollar for every pill I've been stealin'", and on "Without Me" (''The Eminem Show'', 2002) in the lyric "I just settled all my lawsuits/Fuck you, Debbie!"

3) The W page on Trolls says "The basic mindset of a troll is that they are far more interested in how others react to their edits, than in the usual concerns of Wikipedians: accuracy, veracity, comprehensiveness, and overall quality." I believe my actions to have been properly motivated: it is inaccurate to ignore the child abuse question; it is true to say there are/have been child abusers attracted to scouting; and the addition of the book mentioned by others would have improved the comprehensiveness of the entry.

With Mathers' rise to stardom, new disputes arose between him and his wife, centering on her dissatisfaction over the graphic fictional account of her husband murdering her and dumping her body in a lake in the songs "Kim" (''The Marshall Mathers LP'', 2000) and "'97 Bonnie & Clyde", respectively. The tension between the couple came to a boiling point when he witnessed her kissing another man, one [[John Guerrera]], outside the Hot Rocks Café in Warren on [[June 4]], [[2000]]. Mathers threatened Guerrera with an unloaded [[9 mm caliber|9 mm]] [[semi-automatic firearm]] and allegedly proceeded to [[Pistol-whipping|pistol-whip]] him.<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1436562/06072000/eminem.jhtml</ref> Although, Guerrera is mentioned in "[[Sing For The Moment]]" on ''The Eminem Show'', in the line "you're full of shit too, Guerrera, that was a ''fist'' that hit you!" On the previous day, Mathers was allegedly involved in a heated dispute in [[Royal Oak, Michigan|Royal Oak]], [[Michigan]] with Douglas Dail, an associate of the rap group [[Insane Clown Posse]], with whom Mathers had an ongoing [[Hip hop rivalries|rivalry]]. On ''The Marshall Mathers LP'', on the track "Marshall Mathers," Eminem calls ICP's Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent Jay "Faggot 2 Dope," and "Silent Gay," as well as "you two little flaming faggots." Furthermore, a skit on this album features the character of "Ken Keniff" (a [[stereotype|stereotypically]] mincing, predatory [[homosexual]]) graphically receiving [[oral sex]] from the ICP pair. During the confrontation, Mathers was observed to be holding a gun, which he kept pointed at the ground.<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1436572/06092000/eminem.jhtml</ref> Being taken into police custody during the Hot Rocks Café incident, Mathers was charged with [[misdemeanor]] charges of brandishing a firearm in public, assault with a dangerous weapon, and two counts of [[Concealed carry (USA)|concealed]] [[weapon possession]], in two separate trials. After a [[plea bargain]] in the John Guerrera case, which concluded on April 10, 2001, Mathers pleaded guilty to weapon possession in exchange for the assault charges being dropped, receiving two years of [[probation]],<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1442685/04112001/eminem.jhtml</ref> and was ordered to pay $100,000 in damages at the conclusion of the case evaluation in 2002.<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1453345/04092002/eminem.jhtml</ref> In the Dail case, he pleaded ''[[nolo contendere]]'' to the charges of firearm possession and brandishing, receiving one year of probation, enforced concurrently with the sentence from the first case.<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1444843/06282001/eminem.jhtml</ref> He would later recount the former incident in the songs "Say Goodbye Hollywood", "Soldier" (''The Eminem Show'', 2002) and the preceding [[interlude]] "The Kiss". At the Up n' Smoke tour in [[2000]], Mathers also attacked [[ICP]], referring to them as "Insane Clown Pussies" on the intro of his hit "[[My Name Is]]".

4) Part of the subsequent discussion focuses on questions of culture. I am British, and certainly within my culture (perhaps restricted to my age group, young middle-aged) references to "dodgy scout masters" are legion. No doubt other cultures experience things differently. (My being British also inevitably means that "separated by a common language" problems may arise between you and me.)

While the trials were in the beginning stages, things were only getting worse for Mathers, when on [[July 7]], 2000, Kim attempted suicide in the couple's [[Clinton Township, Michigan]] home by [[Self-harm|cutting her wrists]]. (Mathers talks about this incident from Hailie's point of view in the song "When I'm Gone.") This prompted Marshall to file for [[divorce]] a few months later,<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1436827/08172000/eminem.jhtml</ref> which was promptly countered by Kim with a lawsuit that sought to deny him custody of their daughter and $10 million in defamation damages.<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1123331/08222000/eminem.jhtml</ref> Within weeks, however, they settled the lawsuit, and agreed to [[joint custody]] of their daughter, with Kim gaining physical [[child custody]], granting him "liberal visitation rights."<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1436870/08312000/eminem.jhtml</ref> By the end of the year, the couple reconciled, agreeing to dismiss divorce claims and live together.<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1424555/12142000/eminem.jhtml</ref> Mathers mentions her suicide attempt and the Hot Rocks Café incident on the [[Xzibit]] song "Don't Approach Me" (''[[Restless (Xzibit album)|Restless]]'', 2000). In "[[Halie's song]]", off "[[The Eminem show]]", Eminem states in the third verse how happy he was that his wife Kim didn't have their daughter Halie aborted, however the actual word "aborted" is backmasked in the song (much like an inflammitory line about [[President George W. Bush]] on "[[We As Americans]]" .

5) Finally, you call me a troll - and as your experience of W is quite astonishingly greater than mine, presumably this greater experience increases the offensiveness of what must therefore be taken as a carefully considered insult by you. But I do not want to trade blows, which makes it very hard to raise my final (and possibly most significant point) without appearing just to be getting back at you. Please assume the best of intentions when I ask whether there is not, to put it at its lowest, something of a potential conflict of interest in having you (and it seems [[User:Jergen|Jergen]], to whose attention I hope you will draw this note) so heavily committed to and experienced in both scouting and W? Is there not a risk of a certain slackening of objectivity? I am not making conspiratorial claims - but questions come to mind of subconscious self-censorship and the wish to protect something you respect greatly, indeed maintain "group norms", despite the potential conflicts between the two groups (W and scouts) concerned. If this comment is old news, apologies: the entries on scouting are so large, long and numerous I haven't checked everything.

The reconciliation, however, would not last, as she filed for divorce in 2001, which was finalized in October of that year, granting joint physical and legal custody of Hailie to both parties, as well as requiring Mathers to make [[child support]] payments.<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1449902/10102001/eminem.jhtml</ref> There was further turbulence in their relationship when Kim was sentenced to two years of [[probation]] for [[felony]] [[cocaine]] possession in 2003. This was not her first such incident, as she had previously faced similar charges in 2001, although they were eventually dropped.<ref>http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1473473/07012003/eminem.jhtml</ref> The incident was not to be her last, however, as she was sentenced to 30 days in jail in 2004, after failing a [[drug test]] for cocaine while still on probation.<ref>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3484927.stm</ref> Mathers makes numerous references to her cocaine use on the ''Encore'' album, including "you're a fucking cokehead [[slut]]" and "mama developed a habit" in the songs "Puke" and "Mockingbird," respectively. Their relationship since their divorce remained in an indecisive "on-again, off-again" state for a long time.

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===The aftermath===

Mathers was no stranger to drugs and alcohol, as suggested by a large number of his songs, including the acclaimed "Drug Ballad", "These drugs(with [[D12]]) and "Under the Influence." The song "I'm Shady" (''The Slim Shady LP'', 1999) includes the explanatory line "well, I do take pills (''[[ecstasy (drug)|ecstasy]] or prescription drugs''), don't do [[methamphetamine|speed]] / don't do crack, don't do [[cocaine|coke]] / I do smoke weed / don't do smack / I do do [[psychedelic mushroom|shrooms]], do drink [[beer]] / I just wanna make a few things clear." Other tracks do suggest cocaine use, although he has never been in a law enforcement incident involving drugs. However, with the sentence of two years of probation taking effect in 2001, during which he was subject to mandatory regular drug testing, his recreational drug use was put to an end. This fact is supported with references to his drug use in his music, which all but disappeared after 2001, and comments by late band mate Proof, who states that Mathers "sobered up".<ref>http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1452709/03012002/eminem.jhtml</ref> However, with rising pressures and workload in his professional career, he found it difficult to get the rest he wanted, and turned to [[Zolpidem]] [[Sedative|sleeping pills]] for relief. His use of the drug eventually became so severe, that in August 2005, he cancelled the European leg of his ongoing tour, and checked into a [[drug rehabilitation]] clinic for treatment. <ref>http://www.abc.net.au/news/arts/theshallowend/200508/s1441976.htm</ref>

Would you please review [[Panties]] in which the editor [[User:Robotman1974]] has repeatedly reverted my edits, calling them "unsourced" and "OR." I have moved the objectionably material to the discussion page until it can be sourced, but Robotman continues to revert my other changes to the page regardless. Robotman will not respond to posts I made on his talk page. He refuses to discuss or reach consensus. [[User:67.101.243.74|67.101.243.74]] 22:27, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

===Remarriage and second divorce===

*[[User:Robotman1974]] has now posted three different warnings. We both warned the other initially, and after he removed his, I removed mine. Now, however, he has reverted all my edits to the article in question and added these three different warnings to my talk page. ---- I apologize if this is not the usual way to report such activity. Please let me know how I should do so better in the future if that is the case. [[User:67.101.243.74|67.101.243.74]] 22:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Mathers remarried Kim on [[January 14]], 2006 in Michigan. His best man was longtime friend and [[D12 (hip-hop group)|D12]] member Proof (who was shot to death in a Detroit night club three months later), while Kim's maid of honor was their daughter Hailie. They walked down the aisle to Mathers' song "Mockingbird." Guests at the wedding included the other members of D12, as well as the members of [[G-Unit]]. Kim's mother attended the wedding, while Mathers' mother did not. However, less than 11 weeks after remarrying Kim, he filed for divorce at the [[Macomb County]] clerk's office.<ref>http://www.chocolatemagazine.co.uk/news.php?article=342</ref>, citing "a breakdown in the marriage relationship," (which, in Michigan, is the only reason one can give for cause of divorce.) On [[April 5]], [[2006]], the news was leaked to the ''[[Detroit Free Press]]'' and [[MTV]]'s ''[[Total Request Live]]''.

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===Recent events=Reply ==

In 2005, some industry insiders speculated that Mathers is considering ending his rapping career after six years and numerous multi-[[platinum]] albums. Speculation began in early 2005 about a double-disc album to be released late that year, rumored to be titled ''The Funeral''. The album manifested itself under the name ''Curtain Call: The Hits,'' and was released on [[December 6]], [[2005]] under Aftermath Entertainment.

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In July 2005, the ''Detroit Free Press'' broke news of a potential final bow for Mathers as a solo performer, quoting members of his inside circle who said that he will begin to fully embrace the role of producer and label executive. The ''Free Press'', Mathers' hometown paper, wrote that the aptly titled ''Encore'' album would now stand as his final solo album. <ref>http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/encore15e_20050715.htm</ref>

==Interesting articles==

*[http://www.scouting.org/media/press/2000/000404/index.html BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA WELCOMES ITS 100 MILLIONTH MEMBER SINCE ITS ESTABLISHMENT 90 YEARS AGO]

*[http://www.scouting.org/media/press/1998/981221/index.html 1999 Tournament of Roses, Rose Queen is Member of Boy Scout Program]

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== RfA thanks ==

Mathers recently announced via ''[[MTV News]]'' that he does not plan on retiring soon, though he is planning on taking a break to produce music. He is still uncertain whether another album will be released, but his career has not come to a full stop. He is continuing to work out of the spotlight, including producing the [[Redman]] album ''Red Gone Wild''.

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At "Anger Management" in [[Madison Square Garden]] and Atlanta's HiFi Buys Amphitheater, he openly announced that he is not retiring and indicates this is all just gossip by saying the moon exploding is a more credible rumor. However, many still speculate that he will be retiring and the announcement at Madison Square Garden was only a ploy to distract the fans.

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Adding to the already feverish rumors from fans, Mathers released a track on ''Curtain Call'' entitled "When I'm Gone." The lyrics feature the topic of Slim Shady's destructive power over Marshall Mathers' life, and talks of laying his [[alter ego]] to rest, one line featuring the lyrics "I turn around, find a gun on the ground, cock it/ Put it to my brain, scream 'Die Shady!' and pop it. *gun fires*"

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== Re: Bcat ==

On [[December 6]], [[2005]], the day of ''Curtain Call''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s release, Mathers denied that he was retiring on Detroit-based WKQI's "Mojo in the Mornin'" radio show, but implied that he would at least be taking a break as an artist, saying, "I'm at a point in my life right now where I feel like I don't know where my career is going ... This is the reason that we called it 'Curtain Call,' because this could be the final thing. We don't know." <ref>http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-People-Eminem.html</ref>

Quite honestly, I don't think I would have the time to undertake any substantial bureaucrat work, at this point. I'd probably consider running if there were a real emergency due to lack of bureaucrats; but as long as there are enough to keep things rolling, I don't really feel justified in running just to give myself another title. ;-) [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 14:26, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Eminem has had some activity since the release of ''Curtain Call.'' Eminem also rapped a verse in a live performance of [[Busta Rhymes]]' "Touch It" remix at the 2006 BET Music Awards on [[June 27]], [[2006]].

== Regarding removing barnstar1 ==

On [[August 15]], [[2006]], [[Obie Trice]] released ''[[Second Round's on Me]]''. Eminem produced 8 tracks on the album. He was also featured in the song "There They Go".

I would like say that I am not [[Djmckee1]], i was suprised to get that barnstar and I thank [[Djmckee1]] for it. I hope this clear things with you and [[Bloddyfriday]]. Thank You [[User:Ambirch1|Ambirch1]] 15:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Eminem is featured in a new [[Akon]] single "Smack That" which will appear on [[Akon]]'s new album [[Konvicted]]. He also appears in the video with a new tattoo and a green polo. According to Akon, Eminem has cancelled his retirement plans and is making a new album. He said, "Eminem told me he was getting bored with everything, which is why he took a break. But he's back working on his his new album [[Infinite 2]] and I've got some records ready for him to use on it. We've talked about doing something together for so long, but our schedules made it impossible. It was our chemistry that got him out of retirement."

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Producer Swizz Beatz has also said in an interview that he has sent some new tracks to Eminem.

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On December 5, 2006, Eminem will be releasing a album compilation titled ''Eminem Presents: The Re-Up'' which will feature artists from the Shady Records Roster. Currently the first confirmed single is "[[You Don't Know]]" which features [[50 Cent]], [[Lloyd Banks]] and new artist [[Cashis]].

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==Controversies==

===Alleged homophobia===

With the enormous popularity of ''The Marshall Mathers LP'', the controversy surrounding him grew even larger, especially when it was nominated for a [[Grammy Award]] for Album of the Year. Though Mathers had always claimed that his lyrics were not meant to be taken seriously, and that he had nothing against homosexuals or women, the gay rights group GLAAD organized a [[boycott]] of the Grammys. Mathers responded to this by rapping "Stan" on-stage with openly gay singer [[Elton John]], ending the performance by hugging John. This gesture failed to appease many of his critics. He said he did not know Elton John was gay, but he told [[Kurt Loder]] after the awards show that he respected him: "Of course I'd heard of Elton John," Eminem said, "but I didn't know he was gay. I didn't know anything about his personal life. I didn't really care, but being that he was gay and he had my back, I think it made a statement in itself saying that he understood where I was coming from" <ref>http://www.wndu.com/entertainment/022001/entertainment_6360.php</ref>.

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===Racist Tapes===

In the midst of the [[Benzino]] vs Eminem beef Benzino found two tapes of a young Eminem rapping what could of been believed to be racist. Among the two songs Eminem said "i don't like that ni**er sh*t" and also that "black girls only want your money." As soon as the songs became public Eminem immediately released an apology for the controversial songs. Eminem would again apologize for the songs on the song "Yellow Brick Road" off his album Encore. Eminem tried to explain how the songs came to being made in that the first song was him trying to sound "wack." The second he said he did after a bad breakup with a girlfriend who was black. Immediately after the release of Eminem's first apology Def Jam CEO [[Russell Simmons]] came out in accepting Eminem's apology and since then outside of Benzino other rappers have not dissed Eminem over the "racist" songs.

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===Violence towards women===

The two 'eye-opening' songs most often cited as examples in ''The Marshall Mathers LP'' of Mathers' supposed [[misogyny]] were "Kill You" and "Kim." Critics claimed the former portrayed extremely violent abuse against women in general and contained a line about him [[rape|raping]] his own mother. The latter is not so much a song as it is a reenactment of a fictional fight between him and his wife, although his shouted, hoarse lines do rhyme. Despite his conflicting expressions of love and hate throughout the track, he ends up slitting Kim's throat at the end, accompanied by cries of "Bleed, bitch, bleed!" Several people objected to the graphic description of [[domestic violence]]. On the clean version of the CD, the track was removed and replaced with a song almost entirely devoid of profanity called "The Kids."

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Since Mathers' rapid ascent to fame, tell-all biographies of varying quality have been published, including ''Shady Bizzness'' by his former bodyguard Byron Williams. Mathers himself has written a book called ''Angry Blonde'', released in 2000, where he reveals the emotions and intent behind the lyrics in the ''Marshall Mathers LP'' and "Slim Shady LP", and describes his passion for and approach to rapping.

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As one of the members of the rap group [[D12 (band)|D12]], Mathers appeared on the album ''Devil's Night'', released in 2001 and launching his own Shady Records imprint. The album was certified multi-platinum. The album contained the single "[[Purple Pills]]", renamed "Purple Hills" for radio play. Another song, "Blow My Buzz", was on the soundtrack for the Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg film ''The Wash'' (2001), in which Mathers had a [[cameo role|cameo appearance]].

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===Criticism of other artists===

Eminem's provocative style has resulted in a number of high-profile feuds erupting between the rapper and some of his music industry peers. He has at one time or another had disputes with artists including [[Ja Rule]], former ''Source'' magazine co-owner Raymond "[[Benzino]]" Scott, [[Everlast (singer)|Everlast]], [[Royce Da 5'9"]], [[Canibus]], [[Insane Clown Posse]], [[Vanilla Ice]], [[Madonna (entertainer)|Madonna]], [[Michael Jackson]], [[Will Smith]], [[Britney Spears]], [[Mariah Carey]], [[Fred Durst]], [[DJ Lethal]], [[Jermaine Dupri]], [[Moby]], [[Nelly]] and [[Christina Aguilera]].

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==="We as Americans"===

On [[December 8]], [[2003]], the [[United States Secret Service]] admitted it was "looking into" allegations that Mathers had threatened the [[President of the United States]] after the unreleased song "We As Americans" leaked onto the [[World Wide Web|Web]]. The lyrics in question: "Fuck money / I don't rap for dead presidents / I'd rather see the president dead / It's never been said, but I set precedents...". The song was being recorded to possibly be on ''Encore,'' but wound up on a bonus CD accompanying the album instead. The second use of the word "dead" was [[Backmasking|backmasked]] in that version. The skit was also used in [[Immortal Technique|Immortal Technique's]] song "Bin Laden", stated near the end. Immortal Technique also attacks the president on the song.

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===Michael Jackson===

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On [[October 12]], [[2004]], a week after the release of "[[Just Lose It]]", Eminem's first single off ''Encore'', [[Michael Jackson]] called into the [[Los Angeles]]-based [[Steve Harvey]] radio show to report his displeasure with the video, which parodies Jackson's [[child molestation]] trial, [[plastic surgery]], and an incident in which Jackson's hair caught on fire while filming a [[Pepsi]] commercial in 1984. The lyrics to "Just Lose It" also refer to Jackson's legal troubles. Many of Jackson's supporters and friends spoke out about the video, including [[Stevie Wonder]], who called the video "kicking a man while he's down" and "bullshit",<ref>http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=3825</ref> and [[Steve Harvey]] who declared, "Eminem has lost his ghetto pass. We want the pass back." <ref>http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=3606</ref> In the video, Eminem also parodied [[Pee Wee Herman]], [[MC Hammer]], and a Blonde-Ambition-touring [[Madonna (entertainer)|Madonna]].

[[Image:Eminem - Encore.jpg|thumb|Album cover of ''[[Encore (album)|Encore]]'' (2004).]]

== Regading Removing Barnstar 2 ==

[[Black Entertainment Television]] was the first channel to stop airing the video. MTV, however, announced it would continue airing the video, and "Just Lose It" became the #1 requested video on ''[[Total Request Live]]'' for the week ending [[October 22]]. ''The Source'', through its CEO Raymond "[[Benzino]]" Scott, wanted not only the video to be pulled, but the song off the album, and a public apology to Jackson from Mathers.<ref>http://www.sohh.com/thewire/read.php?contentID=6321</ref>

I Think that [[User:Djmckee1|Djmckee1]] may of accidently given me that barnstar. Yes I am a very good friend of him, but I am 100% sure that the barnstar was not for me. A mistake that can corrected very easily. Thank You [[User:Ambirch1|Ambirch1]] 07:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Others dismissed "Just Lose It" as a tame [["Weird Al" Yankovic]]-style knockoff.<ref>http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,15126,00.html</ref> Regarding Jackson's protest, Yankovic, who parodied the Eminem song "Lose Yourself" on a track titled "Couch Potato" on his 2003 album ''[[Poodle Hat]]'', told the ''[[Chicago Sun-Times]]'', "Last year, Eminem forced me to halt production on the video for my "Lose Yourself" parody because he somehow thought that it would be harmful to his image or career. So the [[irony]] of this situation with Michael is not lost on me".

P.S: Congratulations on becoming an administrator! Good Luck [[User:Ambirch1|Ambirch1]] 07:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

== userbox ==

===George W. Bush criticism===

On [[October 26]], [[2004]], a week before the [[U.S. presidential election, 2004]], Eminem released the video for his song titled "Mosh" on the internet. The song features a very strong anti-[[George W. Bush|Bush]] message, with lyrics such as "fuck Bush" and "this [[WMDs|weapon of mass destruction]] that we call our president." The video features Mathers gathering up an army of people presented as victims of the [[George W. Bush administration|Bush administration]] and leading them to the [[White House]]. However, once the army breaks in, it is revealed that they are there to simply register to vote, and the video ends with the words "VOTE Tuesday November 2" on the screen.

Dear Rlevse, Would you like any userboxes made for WikiProject Scouting,[[User:Djmckee1|Djmckee1]] 08:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

After Bush won the election, the video's ending was changed to Eminem and the protesters invading while Bush was giving a speech. None of the publicity helped the album however, which saw its sales stall at 5 million copies, a number dramatically lower than his past two albums.

:Well, if we need one, sure. But I don't know of any people are looking for at this time. Did you have one in mind? [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 09:46, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

== Brownsea 22 ==

===September 11, 2001 attacks===

Later in 2005, Eminem appeared on the song, "[[Bin Laden (song)|Bin Laden]]", written and produced by [[Immortal Technique]] and [[DJ Green Lantern]]. The song blames [[U.S. conservative]]s, the [[Reagan Doctrine]] and President George W. Bush for the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]] It is available on the mixtape "Shade 45: Sirius Bizness".<ref>http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=13755028</ref>

Rlevse, According to a training camp I attended as a youth; the original Brownsea trip Lord <br />Baden-Powell did, he did it with 22 boys. Thus the training camp is referred to as <br />`Brownsea 22'. I wanted to add "with 22 boys" to the Brownsea reference, but couldn't <br />without proper sources. Do you have any back-up on this? Or is it a myth?<br />I too am a Eagle Scout, any help I can render, please call on me.<br /> <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Dnajenks|Dnajenks]] ([[User talk:Dnajenks|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dnajenks|contribs]]) 17:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

It must be noted however, that Eminem never wrote any new material for the song and only appears through samples of other songs he made, the most notable being 'Patiently Waiting' from 50 Cent's debut album ''Get Rich Or Die Tryin''', in which he claims that the hijackers that hit the [[World Trade Center]] were actually aiming for the headquarters of [[Shady Records]].

::Afraid I don't have a ref, I have not heard this before.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 18:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

== GA reviewing ==

===Drug rehabilitation===

In summer 2005, Mathers embarked on his first US concert run in three years, the Anger Management 3 Tour, featuring [[Lil' Jon]], [[50 Cent]] and G-Unit, D12, [[Obie Trice]], [[The Alchemist (producer)|The Alchemist]], and others. In August 2005, Mathers cancelled the European leg of the tour and subsequently announced that he had entered [[drug rehabilitation]] for treatment for a "dependency on sleep medication."

Hi Rlevse. Do you mind taking time reviewing my [[CIA|new proposed-GA article]]? The article belongs to '''Government Agencies''' and now it stands alone in that section. You can be assured that there're no long-queuing candidates, except for mine. Thanks forward. '''[[User:Appleworm|<font color="red">A</font>]][[User talk:Appleworm|''<font color= "green">W</font>'']]''' 16:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

At the same time as he was entering rehab, his aunt and uncle, Jack and Betty Schmitt, sued him, charging that he had reneged on a promise to build a $350,000 house for them and supply them with money for the house's upkeep. The couple claimed that Mathers had kept the house in his name, and then issued them eviction orders.

:I've already fixed the refs and found all needed citations. What's the next step? '''[[User:Appleworm|<font color="red">A</font>]][[User talk:Appleworm|''<font color= "green">W</font>'']]''' 14:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

::Hi. I'm trying to improve the article as you suggested. However, I still don't understand some points. Can you explain more clearly about the order of heraldry items? And if Guatemala section needs a summary about its main article, so should Iran need, too? If such, the article will become longer. About "Further information: CIA and the war on terror (This article)", I think it originally means more information would be shown in the section "CIA and the war on terror" in the article itself. However, if it doesn't make sense, I have no problem removing it. '''[[User:Appleworm|<font color="red">A</font>]][[User talk:Appleworm|''<font color= "green">W</font>'']]''' 02:19, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

:::You list the heraldy as a/b/c but describe them in a/c/b order. Yes, Iran too, but it's not so long that you HAVE to shorten it, just don't add too much. Yes, rm "this article". [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 02:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

::::But I don't know what problems with the code.:( '''[[User:Appleworm|<font color="red">A</font>]][[User talk:Appleworm|''<font color= "green">W</font>'']]''' 02:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

:::::I don't get the question.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 02:37, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

::::::I mean I don't know why, maybe because of wrong coded. Also, what about [[User:Appleworm/My subpages/Sandbox|this]]? '''[[User:Appleworm|<font color="red">A</font>]][[User talk:Appleworm|''<font color= "green">W</font>'']]''' 09:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

:::::::I fixed the heraldry for you. For Whitlock, you could mention it.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 11:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

*Two things: a) the lead doesn't summarize the article. It should summarize each major subsection but you have it just providing background info, it needs an overhaul. b) how did you come to ask me to help? I don't recall crossing paths with you before.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 11:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

::Thanks a lot for fixing the heraldry thingy. What a relief, I'm very tired of fixing refs. a) About the lead section, I think it's fairly clear and extensive. It mentions all the fundamental functions of the CIA. If I summarize major sections, I'm afraid it'll become too long. However, it's just my subjective idea and I'll try to rewrite the lead again because you're a much more experienced editor. b) I checked through the GA reviewers participants list and I randomly chose your name. And my choice is completely accurate. Before nominating the article, I think my work is nearly perfect but then you "crucially" point out a bunch of mistakes. Your "evil eyes" scare me off, Mr. Eight-Features. '''[[User:Appleworm|<font color="red">A</font>]][[User talk:Appleworm|''<font color= "green">W</font>'']]''' 13:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

==LiteraryAIV praise==

Responded. Edit conflict twice. I think things were cleared up, and the username can be removed and not blocked.--[[Special:Contributions/U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A.|U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A.]] '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A.&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new (talk)]''' 01:14, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Nobel Laureate [[Seamus Heaney]] has praised Mathers for his "verbal energy" and for arousing popular interest in poetry and lyrics.<ref>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3033614.stm</ref>

==Your question==

==Other works and ventures==

I agree with you on Wikimongers disposition. Seems another admin agreed as well &mdash; issuing an indefinite block for posting the password. &mdash; [[User:{{{User|ERcheck}}}|{{{User|ERcheck}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{User|ERcheck}}}|talk]]) 01:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

{{Unreferenced}}

[[Image:8mile.jpg|left|thumb|85pix|Promotional poster for ''[[8 Mile]]'' (2002)]]

====Eminem as an actor====

Mathers made his [[Hollywood]] acting debut with the semi-autobiographical ''[[8 Mile]]'', released in November 2002. He has said the movie is not an account of his life, but a representation of how growing up in Detroit. He recorded several new songs for the soundtrack, including "[[Lose Yourself]]," which won an [[Academy Award for Best Song]]; it was not performed at the ceremony, reportedly because [[American Broadcasting Company|ABC]] wanted him to perform an edited version.

Mathers has also done some [[voice acting]], both on ''[[Crank Yankers]]'' and a web cartoon called ''The Slim Shady Show'', which has since been pulled offline and is instead sold on DVD.

==username==

Mathers has also been linked to "Songs of Hope" by [[U2]] and supported the [[Boys and Girls Club of America]] and the Leary Fire Fighters Foundation with various proceeds donated to these causes. In "", he expressed support for American troops, but speaks against the [[2003 invasion of Iraq]] and the Bush administration. The [[Raelism|Raelians Religious Movement]], a religious group whose beliefs are centered around communication with [[extraterrestrial life]], tried to appoint him as an honorary priest. In addition, he has raised [[Sexually transmitted disease|STD]] awareness in a number of songs portraying infected people having promiscuous sex with numerous partners. He also created [[Shade 45]], distributed by [[Sirius Satellite Radio]].

Hi, you have blocked [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Muhahahahaha this user] for having an inappropriete username, as well as leaving the {{Tl|Usernameblocked}} on their talk page, but also used the Account Creation Block feature;which means this user won't be able to create a new account. If there are other reasons besides the username, such as the account being a sockpuppet, a troll, or a vandal, then I the ACB would probroly be justified, I think. I just wasn't aware of anything other than the name being the reason.--[[Special:Contributions/U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A.|U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A.]] '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A.&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new (talk)]''' 02:49, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

:Yep, I forgot to take the auto block off. I'll go fix it. [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 02:51, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.--[[Special:Contributions/U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A.|U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A.]] '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A.&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new (talk)]''' 03:37, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

====Shady Records====

Dr. Dre's leading protégé, Mathers succeeded in multi-platinum record sales. He was granted his own record label, a sub-label of [[Aftermath Entertainment]]. He and his manager Paul Rosenberg created Shady Records in late 2000. Mathers and Dr. Dre had signed 50 Cent on a joint venture between Aftermath & Shady Records. His own Detroit collective [[D12 (band)|D12]] and rapper [[Obie Trice]] were signed to the Shady Records label. In 2003, Mathers and Dr. Dre signed on [[Atlanta]] rapper [[Stat Quo]] to the Shady/Aftermath roster. [[DJ Green Lantern]], the former [[deejay]] for Mathers, was signed to Shady Records until a dispute with 50 Cent forced him to depart from the label; he is no longer associated with Mathers. [[The Alchemist (producer)|The Alchemist]] is now officially Mathers' tour deejay. In 2005, Mathers officially signed another Atlanta rapper known as [[Bobby Creekwater]] to his label along with west coast rapper Ca$his.

In the Anger Management Tour of 2003 [[The Alchemist (producer)|The Alchemist]] hurt his wrist, preventing him from being the tour's DJ. Clinton Sparks filled in for him, and his name is mentioned on the album numerous times.

====Eminem as a producer====

Mathers is also active as a producer of rap records. Besides being the executive producer of D12's two albums, ''[[Devil's Night]]'' and ''[[D12 World]]'', he has also produced numerous tracks on Obie Trice's ''[[Cheers (album)|Cheers]]'' and ''[[Second Round's On Me (album)|Second Round's On Me]]'' as well as 50 Cent's ''[[Get Rich or Die Tryin']]'' and ''[[The Massacre]]''. In addition, Mathers has produced and appeared on several songs by other famous rappers, such as [[Jadakiss]]' "Welcome To D-Block," [[Jay-Z]]'s "Renegade" and "Moment of Clarity" [[Lloyd Banks]]' "Warrior Part 2," and "Hands Up," [[Tony Yayo]]'s "Drama Setter," Trick Trick's "Welcome 2 Detroit," and Xzibit's "My Name" and "Don't Approach Me." Most of ''The Eminem Show'' was produced by Mathers himself, with co-production from longtime collaborator [[Bass Brothers|Jeff Bass]]. He also split the production with Dr. Dre on ''Encore''. In 2004, Mathers executive-produced 2Pac's posthumous album ''[[Loyal to the Game]]'' with 2Pac's mother [[Afeni Shakur]]. He also produced the UK Number 1 single 'Ghetto Gospel' which featured Elton John. On certain tracks on the album, 2Pac's voice was slowed down or sped up, and digitally altered to say things like "2005" and "G-Unit," angering many fans. He also produced Akon's [[Smack That]]. It has also been confirmed that Eminem has produced a track for [[Chamillionaire]] called I Don't Give A Shit on his up coming album [[Ultimate Victory]].

====Eminem in D12====

{{main|D12}}

In [[2001]], Mathers brought his rap group, [[D12]], to the popular music scene. In 2001, D12 released their hit debut album ''Devil's Night''.

The first single released off of the album was "[[Purple Pills]]," an ode to recreational drug use (although this was preceded in the UK by a song called "Shit On You," which was included on the special edition version of the album). The version of the song released on the radio and music television was heavily rewritten to remove many of the song's obscene lyrics, and renamed "Purple Hills." While the first single was a massive hit, the album's second single, "Fight Music," was not as successful, in part due to its timing in relation to the 9/11 attacks.

After their debut, D12 took a three-year break from the studio, later regrouping to release their sophomore album, ''[[D12 World]]'', in 2004, which featured the popular hit single release "My Band." The other members of D12 have also appeared as guests on all of Mathers' albums since ''The Marshall Mathers LP''. D12's third album was tentatively scheduled for a 2006 release. D12 member [[Bizarre]] had said that the crew had spent time in the studio. However, it can be expected that the album may be postponed due to the untimely death of D12 member [[Proof (rapper)|Proof]].

==Discography==

===Albums and EPs===

*''[[Infinite (album)|Infinite]]'' (1996) (Sold roughly 500 copies out of the trunk of his car/unofficial)

*''[[The Slim Shady EP]]'' (1997) (Precursor to The Slim Shady LP, sharing many of its songs, also including tracks with original, alternate beats/unofficial)

*''[[The Slim Shady LP]]'' (1999) #2 US ('''5x Platinum'''); #12 UK (Platinum) (9 million worldwide)

*''[[The Marshall Mathers LP]]'' (2000) '''#1''' US (8 weeks) ('''10x Platinum'''); '''#1''' UK ('''6x Platinum''') (21 million worldwide)

*''[[The Eminem Show]]'' (2002) '''#1''' US (6 weeks) ('''9x Platinum'''); '''#1''' UK (5 weeks) ('''4x Platinum''') (20.5 million worldwide)

*[[8 Mile (soundtrack)|''Music From And Inspired By The Motion Picture 8 Mile'']] #1 US (2002) ('''4x Platinum'''/soundtrack) (9.5 million worldwide)

*''[[Encore (album)|Encore]]'' (2004) '''#1''' US (4 weeks) ('''6x Platinum'''); '''#1''' UK ('''3x Platinum''') (15 million worldwide)

*''[[Curtain Call: The Hits]]'' (2005) '''#1''' US (2 weeks) ('''2x Platinum''') '''#1''' UK (5 weeks) (7 million worldwide/miscellaneous-greatest hits)

*''[[The Re-Up]]'' (2006) ([[Shady Records]]) (compilation)

*''[[The Infinite LP]]'' (2007) ([[Shady Records]])

=== Singles ===

{| {{tablabonita}}

! width="28" rowspan="2"| '''Year'''

! width="200" rowspan="2"| '''Single'''

! colspan="6"| '''Position on List'''

|-

! width="40"| '''US'''

! width="40"| '''UK'''

! width="40"| '''ALE'''

! width="40"| '''AUT'''

! width="40"| '''SUI'''

|----- bgcolor="#f0f0ff"

| [[1999]]

| "My Name Is"

| 36

| 2

| 37

| 24

| 29

|^{Álbum: [[The Slim Shady LP]]}<br /><sup>

|-

| [[1999]]

| "Guilty Conscience"

|

| 5

| 20

|

|

|^{Álbum: The Slim Shady LP}<br /><sup>

|----- bgcolor="#f0f0ff"

| [[2000]]

| "The Real Slim Shady"

| 4

| '''1''' <small>(1)</small>

| 7

| 6

| 2

|^{Álbum: [[The Marshall Mathers LP]]}<br /><sup>

|-

| [[2000]]

| "The Way I Am"

| 38

| 9

| 25

| 15

|

|^{Álbum: The Marshall Mathers LP}<br /><sup>

|----- bgcolor="#f0f0ff"

| [[2000]]

| "Stan"

| 51

| '''1''' <small>(1)</small>

| '''1''' <small>(5)</small>

| '''1''' <small>(4)</small>

| '''1''' <small>(7)</small>

|^{Álbum: The Marshall Mathers LP}<br /><sup>

|-

| [[2002]]

| "Without Me"

| 2

| '''1''' <small>(1)</small>

| '''1''' <small>(4)</small>

| '''1''' <small>(8)</small>

| '''1''' <small>(11)</small>

|^{Álbum: [[The Eminem Show]]}<br /><sup>

|----- bgcolor="#f0f0ff"

| [[2002]]

| "Cleanin' Out My Closet"

| 4

| 4

| 4

| 5

| 5

|^{Álbum: The Eminem Show}<br /><sup>

|-

| [[2002]]

| "Lose Yourself"

| '''1''' <small>(12)</small>

| '''1''' <small>(1)</small>

| '''1''' <small>(4)</small>

| '''1''' <small>(3)</small>

| '''1''' <small>(2)</small>

|^{Álbum: [[BSO 8 Mile]]}<br /><sup>

|----- bgcolor="#f0f0ff"

| [[2003]]

| "Sing for the Moment"

| 14

| 6

| 7

| 7

| 8

|^{Álbum: The Eminem Show}<br /><sup>

|-

| [[2003]]

| "Superman"

| 15

|

|

|

|

|^{Álbum: The Eminem Show}<br /><sup>

|----- bgcolor="#f0f0ff"

| [[2003]]

| "Business"

|

| 6

| 15

| 22

|

|^{Álbum: The Eminem Show}<br /><sup>

|-

| [[2004]]

| "Just Lose It"

| 6

| '''1''' <small>(1)</small>

| 2

| 4

| '''1''' <small>(2)</small>

|^{Álbum: [[Encore]]}<br /><sup>

|----- bgcolor="#f0f0ff"

| [[2005]]

| "Encore"

| 25

|

|

|

|

|^{Álbum: Encore}<br /><sup>

|-

| [[2005]]

| "Like Toy Soldiers"

| 34

| '''1''' <small>(1)</small>

| 8

| 8

| 3

|^{Álbum: Encore}<br /><sup>

|----- bgcolor="#f0f0ff"

| [[2005]]

| "Mockingbird"

| 11

| 4

| 15

| 18

|

|^{Álbum: Encore}<br /><sup>

|-

| [[2005]]

| "Ass Like That"

| 60

| 4

| 31

| 27

|

|^{Álbum: Encore}<br /><sup>

|----- bgcolor="#f0f0ff"

| [[2005]]

| "When I'm Gone"

| 8

| 5

| 7

| 7

|

|^{Álbum: [[Curtain Call: The Hits]]}<br /><sup>

|-

| [[2006]]

| "Shake That"

| 6

|

|

| 3

|

|^{Álbum: Curtain Call: The Hits}<br /><sup>

|-

| [[2006]]

| "Smack That"

| 2

| 12

|

|

|

|^{Álbum: The Re-Up}<br /><sup>

|-

| [[2006]]

| "You Don't Know"

|

|

|

|

|

|^{Álbum: The Re-Up}<br /><sup>

|}

== Honoring Texas Marine Corps Medal of Honor recipients ==

===Collaboration with his group, D12===

*''[[Devil's Night (album)|Devil's Night]]'' (2001) '''#1''' US ('''2x Platinum'''); '''#1''' UK ('''Platinum''')

*''[[D12 World]]'' (2004) '''#1''' US ('''2x Platinum'''); '''#1''' UK ('''Platinum''')

*''[[The Ambition]]'' (2006) Announced

''For a more detailed list of works, see '''[[Eminem discography]]'''.''

As a major contributor to the FA [[Medal of Honor]], I thought you might be interested in this local effort to honor Marine Corps Medal of Honor recipients from Texas:

==Filmography==

*{{cite news|accessdate=2007-04-13

Da Hip-Hop Witch (2000) (Cameo-Performance)

|url=http://www.hcnonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18209226&BRD=1574&PAG=461&dept_id=541543&rfi=6

*''[[The Wash (movie)|The Wash]]'' (2001) (Chris)

|title=Marines take on monumental assignment, Spearhead Medal of Honor monument

*''[[8 Mile]]'' (2002) (Jimmy "B-Rabbit" Smith)

|author=Melvin, Joshua

*''[[Have Gun - Will Travel]]'' (2007) (Paladin)

|date=[[April 11]], [[2007]]

|work=Greater Houston Weekly

|id=Volume 4, Number 15

|page=page 1AA}}

&mdash; [[User:{{{User|ERcheck}}}|{{{User|ERcheck}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{User|ERcheck}}}|talk]]) 04:44, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

::Very interesting, thanks.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 11:31, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

==Your decision on [[User:Psantora]]'s 3RR violation==

==Awards and nominations==

Hi there, I question your decision on my report on [[User:Psantora]]'s violation of 3RR. There is no such a rule that if someone violated 3RR 2 weeks ago, he shouldn't be blocked for violation. I was unable to report him because of the block imposed on me by his report. More importantly, he hasn't realized he had violated 3RR. He needs to blocked to prevent him from further violation in the future. [[User:Miaers|Miaers]] 14:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

'''[[Academy Awards]]'''

:"More importantly, he hasn't realized he had violated 3RR." You admit you never gave him a warning? You miss the whole point of 3RR, to stop edit wars. If he is continuing, submit a new report.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 14:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

*2003 - [[Academy Award for Best Song|Best song]], for "Lose Yourself" from ''8 Mile''

He warned me first. He is more aware of this rule than me. I think the rule is the rule. And anyone should be the same before the rule. What I mean is that he doesn't admit his violation even after the warning, I discussed with him on my talk page during my block. [[User:Miaers|Miaers]] 15:02, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

== Comments ==

'''[[Golden Globe Award|Golden Globe Nomination]]'''

Hi. Got your note. I'm taking a look. Check your e-mail in about an hour. &mdash; [[User:{{{User|ERcheck}}}|{{{User|ERcheck}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{User|ERcheck}}}|talk]]) 20:14, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

*2003 - Best Original Song in a Motion Picture for "Lose Yourself" from ''8 Mile''

:Sent you a note. &mdash; [[User:{{{User|ERcheck}}}|{{{User|ERcheck}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{User|ERcheck}}}|talk]]) 21:06, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

== Redundant report ==

'''[[Grammy Award]]s'''

This [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR&diff=prev&oldid=122751375 3RR report] was filed AFTER User:Iranzulqarnain had already been blocked for the same 3RR violation, so you essentially re-blocked that user for the same 3RR violation [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Iranzulqarnain], I don't think that's fair. The user in question is a newbie with 7 edits overall and is not yet familiar with any Wiki rules [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Iranzulqarnain]. There's a lot of newbie biting going on - which makes the newbie bite back. --[[User:Mardavich|Mardavich]] 01:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

*2000 - [[Grammy Award for Best Rap Solo Performance|Best rap solo performance]] for "[[My Name Is]]" from ''[[The Slim Shady LP]]''

:thanks for noticing that. I unblocked him.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 01:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

*2000 - [[Grammy Award for Best Rap Album|Best rap album]] for ''The Slim Shady LP''

*2001 - [[Grammy Award for Best Rap Solo Performance|Best rap solo performance]] for "[[The Real Slim Shady]]" from ''[[The Marshall Mathers LP]]''

*2001 - [[Grammy Award for Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group|Best rap performance by a duo or group]] (with Dr. Dre) for "Forgot About Dre" from ''[[2001 (album)|Dr Dre 2001]]''

*2001 - [[Grammy Award for Best Rap Album|Best rap album]] for ''The Marshall Mathers LP''

*2003 - [[Grammy Award for Best Short Form Music Video|Best short form music video]], for "[[Without Me]]" from ''The Eminem Show'' (directed by [[Joseph Kahn]])

*2003 - Best rap album for ''The Eminem Show''

*2004 - [[Grammy Award for Best Male Rap Solo Performance|Best male rap solo performance]] for "Lose Yourself" from the ''[[8 Mile Soundtrack|8 Mile O.S.T.]]''

*2004 - [[Grammy Award for Best Rap Song|Best rap song]] for "Lose Yourself" from the ''8 Mile O.S.T.''

== User:Calobster ==

'''Grammy Award nominations'''

*2006 - Best rap song for "Mockingbird" from ''Encore''

*2006 - [[Grammy Award for Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group|Best rap performance by a duo or group]] for "Encore/Curtains Down" (featuring Dr. Dre & 50 Cent) from ''Encore''

*2006 - Best rap album for ''Encore''

Thanks for catching my wrongly place tag on the above page. I was working fast but not well. --[[User:Stormbay|Stormbay]] 03:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

'''[[MTV Movie Awards]]'''

*2002 - Best male performance, for ''8 Mile''

*2002 - Best breakthrough male performance, for ''8 Mile''

== Raul ==

'''[[MTV Video Music Award]]s'''

*1999 - [[MTV Video Music Award for Best New Artist|Best new artist]] for "My Name Is" from ''The Slim Shady LP''

*2000 - [[MTV Video Music Award for Best Video of the Year|Best video]] for "The Real Slim Shady" from ''The Marshall Mathers LP''

*2000 - [[MTV Video Music Award for Best Male Video|Best male video]] for "The Real Slim Shady" from ''The Marshall Mathers LP''

*2000 - [[MTV Video Music Award for Best Rap Video|Best rap video]] (with Dr. Dre) for "Forgot About Dre" from ''Dr Dre 2001''

*2002 - [[MTV Video Music Award for Best Video of the Year|Best video]] for "Without Me", from ''The Eminem Show''

*2002 - Best male video, for "Without Me", from ''The Eminem Show''

*2002 - [[MTV Video Music Award for Best Rap Video|Best rap video]] for "Without Me", from ''The Eminem Show''

*2002 - [[MTV Video Music Award for Best Direction|Best direction]], for "Without Me", from ''The Eminem Show''

*2003 - [[MTV Video Music Award for Best Video from a Film|Best video from a film]], for "Lose Yourself" from the ''8 Mile O.S.T.''

Raul's 6th edit and talk page edits show at least borderline incivilty, which could be interpreted poorly by said person its being directed at.--[[User:Wizardman|<span style="color:#0F0;background:#006">Wizardman</span>]] 03:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

'''[[MTV Europe Music Awards]]'''

*1999 - Best hip-hop act

*2000 - Best hip-hop act

*2000 - Best album, for ''The Marshall Mathers LP''

*2001 - Best hip-hop act

*2002 - Best male act

*2002 - Best hip-hop act

*2002 - Best album, for ''The Eminem Show''

*2003 - Best hip-hop act

== 3rd Padiham Scouts ==

'''[[American Music Award]]s'''

*2003 - Favorite pop/rock male artist

*2003 - Favorite pop/rock album, for ''The Eminem Show''

*2003 - Favorite hip-hop/R&B male artist

*2003 - Favorite hip-hop/R&B album, for ''The Eminem Show''

*2005 - Favorite hip-hop/R&B male artist

I say get rid of the article - it will be included in the Lancashire article when I get to it, but there's nothing that is of value in the current group article for merging, so let it go. -- [[User:Horus Kol|Horus Kol]] <small>[[User talk:Horus Kol|Talk]]</small> 06:41, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

==See also==

:I tagged it with speedy, so I can't be the one to delete it.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 11:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

*[[Best selling music artists]]

*[[List of best-selling albums worldwide]]

*[[Aftermath Entertainment]]

*[[Shady Records]]

*[[Dr. Dre]]

*[[Obie Trice]]

*[[Stat Quo]]

*[[50 Cent]]

*[[D12]]

*''[[8 Mile]]''

==External linksce ==

*[http://www.eminem.com/ Official Eminem website] (requires [[Macromedia Flash]])

*[http://aftermath-entertainment.com/ Official Aftermath Records website]

*[http://www.shadyrecords.com/ Official Shady Records website]

Hi Rlevse. Copyediting requests are piling up (have gone from zero for months to about five in the last week—I think it must be due to [[user:Tony1|a certain someone]]'s return :-). I generally don't like to make promises other than to finish the article I'm currently working on, but I'll keep BSofA on my list. Hopefully the ce project helps out. Thanks for asking. –[[User:Outriggr|<font color="#112299">Outriggr</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Outriggr|''§'']] 07:42, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

==References==

:OK thanks.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 11:31, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

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===Resources= Smile ==

*[http://www.trshady.com TRshady.com - Eminem Fansite]

*[http://www.allabouteminem.com AllAboutEminem.com - Eminem Fansite]

*{{musicbrainz artist|id=b95ce3ff-3d05-4e87-9e01-c97b66af13d4|name=Eminem}}

*[http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=1623 Networth source]

*[http://numberonestars.com/eminem/8mileproduction/ 8 Mile Movie Production Notes]

*[http://www.dashadyboard.com DaShadyBoard.com - The Biggest Shady Community Online]

*[http://www.shadybase.com shadybase.com - Your source for Eminem & Shady Records Info]

*[http://www.rapbasement.com RapBasement.com - Formerly D12 World. One of the largest hip-hop community sites on the Net]

*[http://the-eminem-webpage.com The Eminem Webpage-A resource for finding out what others are searching for every day about Eminem on the web]

*[http://theeminemblog.com/ The Eminem Blog -Eminem/ D12/ Shady Records/ Detroit Hip Hop and All Hip Hop ressource]

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===News===

*[http://aftermathmusic.com/ Shady/Aftermath News]

*[http://www.freep.com/eminem/index.htm Detroit Free Press Eminem News Collection]

*[http://illestlyrics.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=753 Eminem And Obie Trice Speak At Funeral]

*[http://www.dashadyspot.com Shady/Aftermath News]

*[http://news-hiphop.blogspot.com Shady/Aftermath/Interscope News]

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== [[User:JL71JO]] ==

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Don't know why you banned this user, but [[User:DreCosby]], whose edits clearly show he's a sockpuppet, is requesting unblock right now because of an autoblock. Perhaps you wish to nab this one as well. [[User:Part Deux|Part Deux]] 21:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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:[[User:JL71JO]] is a sock of [[User:JJonathan]]. Are you saying [[User:DreCosby]] is a sock of him too? Can you provide evidence? [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 23:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

|NAME=Mathers III, Marshall Bruce

::Um, they have the same IP, (he got caught up in an autoblock), and the contributions are similar enough by the duck test. [[User:Part Deux|Part Deux]] 10:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

|ALTERNATIVE NAMES=Eminem, Slim Shady

:::I saw that, wondered if you knew more.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 11:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

|SHORT DESCRIPTION=American musician

The block of the IP expired, as a suspected IP of JJonathan, it was only blocked a week. I have crossed paths with JJonathan socks more than any other. I'll keep an eye on it.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 11:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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FYI, if you would like to add a ribbon to your user page in memory of those who were lost in today's events, you can use {{tl|Virginia Tech ribbon}} to place a small orange and maroon ribbon in the top right corner of your user page (similar to the {{tl|administrator}} icon). --[[User:BigDT|BigDT]] 04:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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:Done.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 09:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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::That article, [[Virginia Tech massacre]] has thousands of edits already.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 09:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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:::That's just unreal. It had to be s-protected yesterday because it was getting edited 10-15 times/minute and even the admin rollback button wouldn't work for reverting vandalism. I guess if Wikipedia had been around for 9/11 or Columbine, it would have been the same thing. This is probably the biggest national crisis since Wikipedia became popular. --[[User:BigDT|BigDT]] 15:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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::::Good point, I hadn't thought of it that way.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 16:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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