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== Size ==

''"The longest recorded specimen measured 5.85 m (19 ft 2 in) (Cooch-Behar, West Bengal)."'' If this is a maximum for the nominate ''(P. m. molurus)'', it should be made clear. It's too low for the maximum of this species, as subspecies ''[[Burmese Python|bivittatus]]'' (which, for some reason, has its own article) grows much larger than this. --[[User:Anshelm '77|Anshelm '77]] 16:56, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

:Agreed, but when I recently fixed up this article, I didn't have much in the way of specific information on pythonids with which to do any fact checking. I have lots of information on viperids, as well as general taxonomic and geographical data, but not much else (good books cost lots of money). I suspect that you are right about this value in that it probably applies to ''P. m. molurus''; earlier version of these articles were written as though the contributers were unaware that the ''P. m. molurus'' and ''P. m. bivittatus'' are related. If nobody else does, I suspect that I will eventually correct all this information myself, although that may take a while. Hey, you wanna help out?! Ha, just joking. Cheers, --[[User:Jwinius|Jwinius]] 20:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)sick dou

What about the one that was over 22 feet from Florida? (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13566379/) Granted, it was captive, so maybe captive snakes don't count? It was five years ago, so I wonder how big it is now, if it's still alive? I certainly think the super heavy weight of some captive Burmese pythons are just obese animals. They are twice the weight of normal animals of the same length (at least). Length is a different matter, though. But still, this article is about the species*, the title shows the scientific name of the species, so it should be about both subspecies, and therefore the specimen seems relevant, though it' a Burmese python. Thus the max length is at least 22 feet for a captive animal.

(*Other animal articles have no problem with this.) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/87.53.55.228|87.53.55.228]] ([[User talk:87.53.55.228|talk]]) 16:40, 1 May 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Idea for Improvement==

Hi! Unfortunately this page includes many inconsistencies. Probably there is some helpful information at the German Wikipedia for upgrading this page:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigerpython

Good luck! [[Special:Contributions/84.74.165.175|84.74.165.175]] ([[User talk:84.74.165.175|talk]]) 19:56, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

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== Requested move 16 July 2022 ==

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[[:Python molurus]] → {{no redirect|Indian python}} – <s>or {{-r|Indian rock python}}.</s> This species has a well-accepted and unambiguous common name, so I suggest we move the article to that title. The target name has always directed to this subject. —&#8288;&#8202;&#8288;[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 03:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC) <small>—&nbsp;'''''Relisting.'''''&nbsp;— ''Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung'', ''[[User:Mellohi!|mello]]'''''[[User talk:Mellohi!|hi!]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Mellohi!|投稿]]) 04:25, 23 July 2022 (UTC)</small>

:'''Question'''. The species has several common names. Why choose this one? [[User:YorkshireExpat|YorkshireExpat]] ([[User talk:YorkshireExpat|talk]]) 09:54, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

::"Indian python" is, by far, the most common name among the vernacular names. [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Indian+python%2CIndian+rock+python%2Cblack-tailed+python%2CAsian+rock+python&year_start=1900&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3 Here] is an NGram comparison. In this case, the vernacular name may be even less ambiguous than the binomial, because the [[Burmese python]] was only recently recognized as distinct from this one (2009 according to the Wikipedia article). It was long considered a subspecies known as ''[[Python molurus bivittatus]]'', so many references to the Burmese python will use "''Python molurus''". —&#8288;&#8202;&#8288;[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 17:41, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

::Google Scholar results also show "Indian python" as more than twice as common as the others tested in the NGram above (using quotes around the strings to try to limit the results to exact matches). —&#8288;&#8202;&#8288;[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 01:15, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

* '''Relister comment''' Relisting to get further consideration of the nominator's later expansion of their argument, which also factors in [[WP:COMMONNAME]] data and natural disambiguation. — ''Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung'', ''[[User:Mellohi!|mello]]'''''[[User talk:Mellohi!|hi!]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Mellohi!|投稿]]) 04:26, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

*'''Support''' per common name and most familiar name in English. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 20:39, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

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