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== TODO ==

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'''This Page'''

* The markup should be cleaned:

** If it is a straight-forward list, then use {{((}}subst:[[User:10nitroLukeShu/Userboxlist2]]{{))}} - this is a version of {{((}}[[UserTemplate:10nitro/UserboxlistLanguage table]]{{))}} optimized to reduce server load, with the downside of having to "subst" it. What it actually does is configure {{((}}[[User:10nitroLukeShu/usbl]]{{))}} so you don't have to.

** If it includes several lists ([[Wikipedia:Userboxes/Programming#PHP|PHP]]), or list with individual items ([[Wikipedia:Userboxes/Programming#Python|Python]]), use {{((}}[[User:10nitroLukeShu/Usbklist]]}} inside of {{tl|usbktop}}/{{tl|usbkbottom}}

* Here is a list of templates [[User:10nitroLukeShu|10nitroLukeShu]] has made that are relevent:

** {{((}}[[UserTemplate:10nitro/UserboxlistLanguage table]]{{))}} (formerly User:Lukeshu/Userboxlist)

** {{((}}[[User:10nitroLukeShu/Userboxlist2]]{{))}}

** {{((}}[[User:10nitroLukeShu/usbl]]{{))}}

** {{((}}[[User:10nitro1LukeShu/Usbklist]]{{))}}

:I am working on this right now--it seems that userboxlist2 causes errors in a couple of them/changes the way they display, but most of them have been OK. LPC userbox is incompatible with userboxlist2 (as far as I can tell) as it is not in the template namespace. I will continue working on this and will keep you posted. --[[User:Jp07|Jp07]] ([[User talk:Jp07|talk]]) 23:25, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

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Thank you

<br/>~ [[User:10nitroLukeShu|10nitroLukeShu]] ([[User talk:10nitroLukeShu|talk]]) 20:37, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

<br/>[[User:OrangeDog|OrangeDog]] <small>([[User talk:OrangeDog|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OrangeDog|edits]])</small> 18:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

'''Mesa? Modula?'''

Why are Mesa and Modula not on this list? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Trudyjh|Trudyjh]] ([[User talk:Trudyjh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Trudyjh|contribs]]) 23:47, 22 November 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== RFC ==

=== Smalltalk === <!-- yes, the "t" is lowercase, look it up -->

: ''FIXME: MOVE VOTE: Please move ''Template:User SmallTalk'' to ''Template:User Smalltalk'' (lowercase "t") or ''Template:User st'', based on a consensus''

I vote for "User Smalltalk", to avoid future name clashes with anything that can be abbreviated "st". [[User:OrangeDog|OrangeDog]]&nbsp;<small>([[User talk:OrangeDog|talk]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/OrangeDog|edits]])</small> 17:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== Other ==

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:What about it? If you want a userbox for it, feel free to create it (following the existing formats) and add it here. [[User:OrangeDog|OrangeDog]]&nbsp;<small>([[User talk:OrangeDog|talk]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/OrangeDog|edits]])</small> 16:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

::The already is several in existence for it (check my userpage for one) unfortunately I am too unfamiliar with wikicode to add it here.--[[User:UltraMagnus|UltraMagnus]] ([[User talk:UltraMagnus|talk]]) 16:49, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== Cleanup guide ==

When fixing these userboxes, remember the following:

*Create new categories if they have been replaced by new language cats

*Use {{tlx|userbox-level}} to format the box

*<s>The id (js) and name (JavaScript) should link to the article, while the skill level (beginner) should link to the category (:Category:User js-1)</s>

**The ID (js) should link to the article, while name (JavaScript) should link to [[:Category:User js]], and the skill level (beginner) should link to [[:Category:User js-1]].

*Use <code><nowiki><noinclude></nowiki></code> to add the category [[:Category:Computer language user templates]]

*Transclude each template on its corresponding category page

*Check that categories nest correctly

*Search categories for duplicates and unnecessary alternatives and redirect to the canonical templates

[[User:OrangeDog|OrangeDog]]&nbsp;<small>([[User talk:OrangeDog|talk]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/OrangeDog|edits]])</small> 17:32, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

== unified programming/markup box? ==

Is there a box similar to [[Template:Babel|Babel]] for programming and markup? It would seem there isn't. Perhaps it would be good to copy the babel template and modify it for use with programming languages. Just a suggestion. I suppose I could give it a shot if I have some time. [[User:Quillaja|Quillaja]] ([[User talk:Quillaja|talk]]) 13:34, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

It seems I had a little time, and I made an example. It's at [[User:Quillaja/Userbox/Programming]]. It would look something like on the right. (''10/29: removed because it was a bother.'') It requires that the template for each language be located in the "User" path, like "User prog-2". With a quick test, it fails on the "User t|2" (template) userbox. I'd guess that's because of using the pipe in the name. Using <nowiki>{{!}}</nowiki> didn't solve the problem. [[User:Quillaja|Quillaja]] ([[User talk:Quillaja|talk]]) 14:12, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

:What's wrong with {{tl|Userboxtop}} and {{tl|Userboxbottom}}? [[User:OrangeDog|OrangeDog]] <small>([[User talk:OrangeDog|τ]] • [[Special:Contributions/OrangeDog|ε]])</small> 19:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

::Nothing; I just didn't know about them. I also liked the simplicity of the Babel template, but it appears Userboxtop, etc. are more flexible. [[User:Quillaja|Quillaja]] ([[User talk:Quillaja|talk]]) 23:32, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Other markup languages? ==

[[Wikipedia:Userboxes/Programming#Missing_languages]] documents a mechanism for specifying a userbox even if there is no specific template for it. Is there a similar mechanism for a markup language not listed in [[Wikipedia:Userboxes/Programming#Markup_languages]]? [[User:Chatul|Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz]] ([[User talk:Chatul|talk]]) 15:57, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

:I don't think that would be necessary; markup languages are considered a subset of programming languages in {{tl|WP:UBS}}.<br>--[[User:Gyrobo|Gyrobo]] ([[User talk:Gyrobo|talk]]) 16:34, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

::The wording of the userbox for, e.g., HTML, is different from the wording of the userbox for, e.g. Ada. That would appear to indicate that the distinction is recognized. [[User:Chatul|Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz]] ([[User talk:Chatul|talk]]) 19:38, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

:::That's a good point. And if they were the same, they wouldn't be on two different pages. If you wanted to make a series of generic templates for "This user can write in XXX", I'd support it.<br>--[[User:Gyrobo|Gyrobo]] ([[User talk:Gyrobo|talk]]) 19:52, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

::::I might if nobody beats me to it, but right now I'm in the process of writing several articles and am finding that things I want to refer to don't exist, leaving me with the prospect of writing more articles than I had planned. I'm also still learning the culture and infrastructure of Wiki, and probably shouldn't develop any templates until I'm more familiar with things. [[User:Chatul|Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz]] ([[User talk:Chatul|talk]]) 20:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

:::::{{done}} Hope you like them, you can change around the text if you like.<br>--[[User:Gyrobo|Gyrobo]] ([[User talk:Gyrobo|talk]]) 21:40, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

== Guidance on skill levels? ==

Shouldn't someone write some generic non-language specific guidance on what the different skill levels mean? This information would help users choose the "correct" skill level and could be placed in the Introduction. [[User:Stieltjes|Stieltjes]] ([[User talk:Stieltjes|talk]]) 20:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

== Mesa? Modula? ==

Why are there not userboxes for Mesa and Modula?

[[User:Trudyjh|Trudyjh]] ([[User talk:Trudyjh|talk]]) 23:50, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

== PL/I ==

The language is PL/I (roman numeral I), not PL/1. [[User:Peter Flass|Peter Flass]] ([[User talk:Peter Flass|talk]]) 00:48, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

== Limit exceeded ==

Towards the end of the Gallery, starting with 2.48 VHDL,

the userboxes stop to show.

That appears to be due to some limit exceeded:

Post-expand include size: 2048000/2048000 bytes

(which can be seen as an HTML comment near the end of the page)

I'm not (yet) sure how to remedie that.

Obviously the page is quite large, and should probably split into many partial pages.

<br>--[[User:H.Marxen|H.Marxen]] ([[User talk:H.Marxen|talk]]) 20:18, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

: I have split programming languages into two subpages A-L and M-Z. I've also changed the navigation box template. I hope I got it all right.<br>--[[User:H.Marxen|H.Marxen]] ([[User talk:H.Marxen|talk]]) 16:43, 2 January 2013 (UTC)