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| genre = Comedy series

| image =

| creator = [[Haris Romas]],<br>[[Anna Hatzissofia]]

| genre = Comedy

| director = Fotini Kotrotsi

| format = Serial comedy

| creatorstarring = [[HarisJoyce RomasEvidi]],<br>[[Anna ChatzissofiaKouri]],<br>[[Stelios Mainas]],<br>[[Haris Romas]]

| openthemecomposer = ''Malambo No 1'' by = [[Lia Vissi]]

| director = Fotini Kotrotsi

| opentheme = ''Malambo No 1'' by [[Lia Vissi]]

| starring = [[Joyce Evidi]],<br>[[Anna Kouri]],<br>[[Stelios Mainas]],<br>[[Haris Romas]]

| composercountry = [[Lia VissiGreece]]

| language = Greek

| opentheme = ''Malambo No 1'' by [[Lia Vissi]]

| num_seasons = 3

| country = Greece

| num_episodes = 110

| language = Greek

| num_seasonslist_episodes = 3

| num_episodes =

| list_episodes =

| executive_producer =

| producer = Frosso Ralli

| ___location = [[Athens]]

| camera =

| company = [[Studio ATA]]

| runtime = 25 minutes / episode

| network = [[ANT1]]

| first_aired = {{start date|1993|9|16|df=y}}

| picture_format =

| last_aired = {{end date|1996|5}}

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| related =

| first_aired = 1993

| last_aired = 1996

| status = Ended

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'''''I Men... ke I Den''''' ([[Greek language|Greek]]: Οι Μεν... και Οι Δεν; English: ''Those and the others'') is a comedy series which aired on [[ANT1]] for three seasons, from 1993 to 1996. The scripts were written by [[Haris Romas]] and [[Anna ChatzissofiaHatzissofia]]. The series is considered one of the most successful on Greek television, achieving high ratings, and it was rerun multiple times for many years after the original run.

==Characters==

===Dionyssis Dangas===

'''Dionyssis Dangas''' (Διονύσης Δάγκας, played by [[Haris Romas]]). Dionyssis was born to a [[Rebetiko]] singer (played by [[Sperantza Vrana]]) and an unnamed father. Later in the series his father was revealed to be a successful [[cross-dressing]] singer and committed [[Homosexuality|homosexual]] who was seduced by a female colleague while drunk.

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Dionyssis was [[nouveau riche]] and sought to impress others by showing off his wealth and education. He essentially became a [[snob]] and hated being reminded of his lowly origins. He was also a [[miser]] and hated expenses that gained him no prestige. One episode revealed his childhood idol to be [[Scrooge McDuck]], to the point of Dionyssis having his own [[Number One Dime]]. He earned his first dime by winning his first trial at the age of five: two kids were fighting over a loaf when he happened pass by. He asked, "Well, who does it belong to?" and one of the kids answered, "It belongs to the other kid. But if you say that it belongs to me I'll give you this dime." And so he earned his first dime by practising his future job.

During the series, Dionyssis grows used to financially supporting both his wife and his neighbours. By the series finale he is a father of two, but is much closer emotionally to the son of his neighbour. The finale suggests Dionyssis is attempting to raise four children instead of two and learning to co-habit with the Stamati family.

===Vana Danga===

'''Vana Danga''' (Βάνα Δάγκα, played by [[Anna Kouri]]). Wife of Dionyssis. Born to socially prominent parents, she grew up in luxury and attended the finest schools. However opportunities were only offered to her due to the financial support of her father. She herself wasis rather naive, childishsometimes even childish, and not particularly intelligent. Her studies had no practical use and left her with very little actual knowledge.

After finishing school, Vana was pursued by Dionyssis in his effort in social climbing. Ironically, she was actually in love with him. Her greatest disappointment during the series was being a warm and passionate woman in an essentially passionless and [[sexless marriage]]. She constantly attempted to seduce her husband, with little success. On the other hand, Vana sought to appease her vanity by buying increasingly expensive [[fur]]s and other material possessions, thus infuriating her miserly husband.

During the series Vana becomes a strange friend to Nana, always ready to put her down because of her lowly origins and fashion choices, but also ready to follow her lead in various money-making schemes. Several episodes have the women bonding.

By the end of the series Vana is a mother of two, but finds herself much closer emotionally to the daughter of Nana than to her own.

===Timos Stamatis===

'''Timotheos "Timos" Stamatis''' (Τιμόθεος "Τίμος" Σταμάτης, played by [[Stelios Mainas]]). Son of a conservative school teacher, Timos rebelled against the values of his mother and led a [[Bohemianism|Bohemian]] life. Unemployed throughout the series, Timos supported himself by petty theft, the meager earnings of his wife and loans from his "buddy" Dionyssis.

He won a small apartment in [[Kolonaki]] in a [[game show]]. He is an amateur [[clarinettist]] who plays his music at all hours. He is still in love with his wife, and eager for any opportunity for [[sexual intercourse]]. Though cunning enough to scam his way to money, Timos is rathereven more naive than Vana, and never understands that Dionyssis dislikes him. His favorite victim is also his best friend, or so he thinks.

By the end of the series he is a father of two, but busy teaching Dionyssis's son the art of theft.

===Nana Stamati===

'''Nana Stamati''' (portrayed by [[Joyce Evidi]]). Daughter of two [[flower child]]ren and particularly close with her [[Rock and roll|rock musician]] father. To the point of jealous Timos suspecting [[Oedipus complex]] (actually [[Electra complex]]).

Equally as bohemian as her husband, Nana is the income provider in the family. She is an "artist" and sells her [[jewellery]], statues and other artifacts in [[Monastiraki]]. She is a shrewdish [[Confidence trick|con artist]] and typically leads either Timos or Vana in money-making schemes, some of which are successful while others backfire.

By the end of the series she is a mother of two, but is closer to Vana's daughter than to her own children.

==Television==

The program was highly successful in its time, achieving high ratings throughout its run, and was one of the most popular shows in [[Television in Greece|Greek]] and Greek-language television. Even today, episodes are regularly rerun by ANT1 and continue to find an audience.

==External links==

*http://patrastoday.gr/TV/series.asp?id=29&eid=3846

*http://tv.pathfinder.gr/ant1/ant10411271220.html

* {{IMDb title|0259147}}

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