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== Windows EnableNumKeypad clarification ==
 
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:[[User:Peter M. Brown|Peter Brown]] ([[User talk:Peter M. Brown|talk]]) 19:25, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
::"undergoes a transformation operation" is math jargon for 'turns into', if you must be purist about it, The question is made doubly difficult by Microsoft's track record of playing ducks and drakes with standards (aka "embrace and undermine") without us getting picky about choice of words when the meaning is obvious. That is why I'm suggesting that terminological exactitude is critical. --[[User:John Maynard Friedman|John Maynard Friedman]] ([[User talk:John Maynard Friedman|talk]]) 19:58, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
:::I'm torn between just letting the discussion die and objecting to being called "picky". After wrestling with the issue, I'm afraid that I come down on the side of protest. "960 turns into 192" cannot be parsed as "960 undergoes a transformation operation 192" unless "transformation" and "192" are in [[apposition]], which is clearly not the intent. My suggestion that it meant 192 = mod (960,256) was apparently incorrect, but it was an honest attempt at making sense of "turns into". To me, the meaning was and is not obvious. So long as I'm not called "picky", I'm content to let it remain obscure.  — [[User:Peter M. Brown|Peter Brown]] ([[User talk:Peter M. Brown|talk]]) 02:22, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
::::192 = mod (960,256) is exactly what I meant by "turns into". You take 960, apply the mod-256 operation to it, and you get 192. So the number 960 turns into the number 192. It is possible this terminology is popular in computer science because the input is often not needed after the operation and is discarded, or may even be replaced by writing something like {{code|1=x = mod(x, 256)}} which replaces x with it's value mod 256, actually turning x into a new number.[[User:Spitzak|Spitzak]] ([[User talk:Spitzak|talk]]) 02:36, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 
== Direct drawing on a touch screen ==
 
CJK characters are routinely entered by drawing directly on a touch screen. Meaning that I have seen it being done more than once so it must be routine. {{smiley}}
 
Does anybody know enough to add a section to that effect? [[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 15:56, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 
== alt + x Windows ==
 
alt + x works also in Notepad 11.2112.32.0 on Windows 10, not sure about previous versions. [[Special:Contributions/213.184.17.126|213.184.17.126]] ([[User talk:213.184.17.126|talk]]) 15:48, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 
alt + X does not work on my HP laptop running Windows 11. [[Special:Contributions/136.36.180.215|136.36.180.215]] ([[User talk:136.36.180.215|talk]]) 01:04, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
 
== Missing: UTF-8 hex input ==
 
The article doesn't currently mention it, but UTF-8 is the de facto standard for representing Unicode in computer systems. PHP, and perhaps other languages, have built-in ways to specify Unicode characters of any length (including exotic combinations of glyphs and properties) using hexadecimal number literals. Most online Unicode character descriptions include UTF-8 representations. So shouldn't the article reflect this reality, instead of keeping alive the mostly outmoded concept of code points? The most compact way to represent Unicode characters of any byte length greater than one is through UTF-8 hexadecimal. [[User:David spector|David Spector]] ([[User Talk:David spector|talk]]) 17:09, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 
:I have not seen any input methods that use UTF-8 code units. Maybe you can use {{tt|\xNN}} for each byte in a string constant in some languages, but this is pretty uncommon.[[User:Spitzak|Spitzak]] ([[User talk:Spitzak|talk]]) 19:04, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 
== Where? ==
 
"Microsoft Windows has provided a Unicode version of the Character Map program, appearing in the consumer edition since XP" Where is this found?[[Special:Contributions/136.36.180.215|136.36.180.215]] ([[User talk:136.36.180.215|talk]]) 01:05, 8 September 2024 (UTC)