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== brands inside article ==
We don't need to include the brands inside the article. They are listed at the bottom. - [[User:Texture|Tεx]][[User Talk:Texture|<
== Suggested edits ==
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The page for [[SQL]] indicates that the ANSI-standard pronunciation is "S-Q-L" not "Sequel". --[[User:Fubar Obfusco|FOo]] 19:21, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
:Despite the widespread [[pronunciation]] of "SQL" as the word "''sequel''," MySQL AB recommends that "MySQL" be pronounced as <
::Don't we usually use IPA and SAMPA to designate pronunciation? I'm not even sure what system this is.
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So, could we please leave the pronunciation alone?
[[User:Jerazol|Jerazol]] 07:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
== MySQL Application of the Year winners ==
I think this section should indicate whether the GPL or enterprise license was used. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/38.101.0.100|38.101.0.100]] ([[User talk:38.101.0.100|talk]]) 16:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== MySQLi ==
[[MySQLi]] redirects here, but this article has no information on it. --[[Special:Contributions/208.70.245.209|208.70.245.209]] ([[User talk:208.70.245.209|talk]]) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 18:45, 18 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== It would be nice to see a list of BIG users ==
It would be nice to see a list of major users. I've seen a document which says Google (Adsense), YouTurbe, Facebook, Wikipedia and some others. It would be nice to see a referenced list of such users, but not a set of ads for small companies that use it. [[User:Drkirkby|Drkirkby]] ([[User talk:Drkirkby|talk]]) 18:20, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold
[[User:Peterl|peterl]] ([[User talk:Peterl|talk]]) 00:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
== Popularity ==
The article used to say that the popularity of MySQL is "is closely tied to the popularity of PHP and Ruby on Rails". The PHP part is fine, but to say that the popularity of MySQL is tied to Ruby on Rails is absurd. MySQL was a major player long before RoR appeared and today RoR accounts for only a tiny portion of MySQL-based websites. So I deleted |Ruby on Rails" from the sentence. --[[user:DanielCarrera|Daniel Carrera]] 15 January 2009 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment was added at 11:56, 15 January 2009 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Wikipedia ==
The biggest installation of database doesn't mention, strange... <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/62.219.193.152|62.219.193.152]] ([[User talk:62.219.193.152|talk]]) 15:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
==Criticism==
Why are there criticism included in the article talking about issues with non-current versions? Most of these criticisms were addressed in 5.0 which was released two and a half years ago? [[User:Macutty|Macutty]] ([[User talk:Macutty|talk]]) 15:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
:Good point. [[WP:BOLD]] - remove the criticism! --[[User:TimTay|TimTay]] ([[User talk:TimTay|talk]]) 16:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
::I disagree, this is an encyclopedia and history is actually part of what makes the subject worthwhile of being here. The criticism should be placed into context, of course, such as "criticism of 4.x", but it should stay in the article. Otherwise it's not so much an encyclopedia article as it is a here-and-now MySQL page that you might as well have found on an IT blog somewhere. [[User:Ham Pastrami|Ham Pastrami]] ([[User talk:Ham Pastrami|talk]]) 09:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Agree with Ham Pastrami. Also believe that having a criticism section is appropriate. [[Special:Contributions/67.189.104.78|67.189.104.78]] ([[User talk:67.189.104.78|talk]]) 02:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
The tags have been there for a while so I took some action. It makes sense to me to incorporate the criticisms into the product history section rather than a separate section as these criticisms mostly apply to a particular version or versions and a whole section seems unfair to the product which may have had such issues resolved in a later release. You would not want to remove the criticism entirely from the article if a problem gets resolved so it's better to put it in a historical context. As criticisms now exist in the article as part of the history of the product, and not as a separate section, I see no need for the undue criticism tags. If a general criticism arises that applies to the product generally as a whole (not just to a particular release) that can safely go in a separate criticism section. Hopefully, this satisfies everyone's concerns. [[Special:Contributions/82.44.93.55|82.44.93.55]] ([[User talk:82.44.93.55|talk]]) 18:08, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
I was just thinking after reading the product history section that it could probably do with some more positive significant history as well as the criticism I incorporated yesterday, if it is deemed significant enough, just to balance out the criticisms (for e.g. a well-publicised, high-profile performance test that showed MySQL performing better than it's rivals, or something similar). I hope someone can add something if they know of any such. [[Special:Contributions/82.44.93.55|82.44.93.55]] ([[User talk:82.44.93.55|talk]]) 02:31, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
== Ownership/Copyright ==
Two statements in the lead caught my eye:
* "...MySQL is ''owned''... and sponsored by a single for-profit firm..." - if the source code is under the GPL, what exactly does the firm 'own'?
* "...now a subsidiary of Sun Microsystems,[4] which holds the ''copyright'' to most of the codebase." - again if the source code is under GPL, to what is Sun claiming 'copyright'? (more precisely, to what is the article claiming that Sun is claiming copyright?)
[[User:Cander0000|Cander0000]] ([[User talk:Cander0000|talk]]) 02:55, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
:: They own the copyright for all code, and they license this code under the terms of the GPL. This means that they can, if the want, relicense future versions of the code any way they want. This is also the reason why they can have it under dual licenses. (Released code cannot be relicensed though, i.e. they cannot "unGPL" existing versions) --[[User:Isaksavo|Isaksavo]] ([[User talk:Isaksavo|talk]]) 11:19, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
::: Correct [[User:Dontdeletecontent|Dontdeletecontent]] ([[User talk:Dontdeletecontent|talk]]) 03:03, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
== MySQL Frontends ==
No much mention of MySQL Frontends? apart from phpMyAdmin in one of the paras there doesn't seem to be any more info. I want to expand the article and add a section on Frontends / GUI tools, or should there be a separate article for this, like [[MySQL Frontend]]? -- [[User:Tomjenkins52|Tom Jenkins]] <sup>[[User_talk:Tomjenkins52|(reply)]]</sup> 06:55, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
:Started off with a section for this: [[MySQL#Management_and_Graphical_Frontends]]. That describes the major frontends and has to be expanded a lot more, but covers the issue fine for now. -- [[User:Tomjenkins52|Tom Jenkins]] <sup>[[User_talk:Tomjenkins52|(reply)]]</sup> 08:20, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
::Looks good to me, if there is even more material on this, one could make it its own article. This would also remove the simple listing of products from the main article which I am not so happy with. Greetings --[[user:Hannes Röst|hroest]] 16:20, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:::That's great, thanks for your feedback. The other commercial MySQL frontends could be described, but they still seem similar enough to be only listed generally. I've edited the section to read more as an article, and the list is similar to the list of platforms just above the GUI section. Would that do fine for now?
:::I like the idea of describing a few freely available frontends in the main MySQL article since it makes a big difference to every MySQL engineering team, including design, development, server administration and maintenance. -- [[User:Tomjenkins52|Tom Jenkins]] <sup>[[User_talk:Tomjenkins52|(reply)]]</sup> 01:40, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
== Forks in Response to the Oracle takeover ==
The Drizzle project is not a response to the Oracle takeover. It started in 2008 during the MySQL Conference. See [http://drizzle.org/wiki/Drizzle_History|Drizzle History], bottom of the page, for reference. This is way before the merger announcement. MariaDB also existed before the merger announcement, the WP article on [[MariaDB]] mentions 2009-01-22 as the inital release date, whereas the Oracle-Sun merger event dates to 2009-04-20. Hence referring to MariaDB and Drizzle as 'forks in response to the Oracle takeover' is clearly wrong. -- [[User:Isotopp|Isotopp]] ([[User talk:Isotopp|talk]]) 11:06, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I have edited that section to note that the forks were pre-oracle acquisition. [[User:Awfief|Awfief]] ([[User talk:Awfief|talk]]) 05:00, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
== My Seek Wool ==
In reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MySQL&action=historysubmit&diff=348654608&oldid=348628483 this edit], I really think most people's pronunciation of MySQL is more like "my seek wool" than "micey quell." See also [[SQL#Standardization]]. [[User:Tisane|Tisane]] ([[User talk:Tisane|talk]]) 06:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:But that's not what you wrote; you wrote that it's "my sequel". Which is it? [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 08:20, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
::SQL is commonly pronounced sequel, and the 2nd reference on the page ( "What is MySQL?, MySQL 5.1 Reference Manual") already shows that. If the reference that's needed is for "micey quell", then why is the [citation needed] mark after the "My sequel" pronunciation? At the very least, [citation needed] needs to be moved so it directly follows the pronunciation that's disputed. [[Special:Contributions/97.112.199.245|97.112.199.245]] ([[User talk:97.112.199.245|talk]]) 16:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:It might perhaps be better stated that those who are less familiar with MySQL might use the my sequel pronunciation. If you view the sessions at the MySQL Conference over the years you'll find that My S Q L is the form used by the founders and those users who have encountered them or other members of the community, with my sequel mainly used temporarily by newcomers. Many of those sessions are available for online viewing if you'd like to check for yourself. The "often pronounced" claim is presumably what would need a citation. [[User:Jamesday|Jamesday]] ([[User talk:Jamesday|talk]]) 09:37, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
== MySQL/Sun ==
[http://blogs.mysql.com/kaj/2008/01/16/sun-acquires-mysql/ Sun Microsystems announced plans to acquire MySQL AB]
Probably needs putting into the article ;)
<small>—<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">'''[[User:Reedy Boy|<span style="color:darkred;">Reedy</span>]] [[User talk:Reedy Boy|<span style="color:darkred;">Boy</span>]]'''</span></small> 14:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
I put http://www.mysql.com/news-and-events/sun-to-acquire-mysql.html into the article, hopefully that helps.
[[User:Awfief|Awfief]] ([[User talk:Awfief|talk]]) 04:46, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Need more info on this! As far as I can tell, MySQL Basic is no longer free (and not deprecated). Source:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/08/oracle_jacking_up_mysql_prices/ Is this true? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/151.151.16.19|151.151.16.19]] ([[User talk:151.151.16.19|talk]]) 15:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Statistical Query Language? ==
Ok, I'm not sure if I'm missing something here, but I thought "SQL" stood for "Structured Query Language", not "Statistical Query Language" as is currently stated in the last sentence of the first paragraph.
On the [[Talk:SQL#SQL_Acronym|official talk page for SQL]], there is some debade if it stands for "Structured Query Language" or if it officially has become its own term without expansion, but nowhere in my knowledge or experience is it "Statistical Query Language"
I'm going to update the phrase and link "SQL" to its wiki home --[[User:DigitalSorceress|DigitalSorceress]] ([[User talk:DigitalSorceress|talk]]) 15:37, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
==Please watch WP:NOTAFORUM and WP:NPOV==
I cleaned up two such offending threads. Just a reminder to follow both these guidelines.[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] ([[User talk:Jasper Deng|talk]]) 06:39, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
== A History Section? ==
I would like to suggest that a history section be added to this topic. The seems to suggest that MySQL went directly from its initial development to ownership by Oracle and completely ignores the support and development provided by Sun Microsystems after they aquired the product and before Oracle aquired Sun Microsystems.
[[User:Jballotti|jdb]] ([[User talk:Jballotti|talk]]) 20:50, 26 April 2011 (UTC) jballotti
== Name of the client-server protocol ==
I only found something like “MySQL Client/Server Protocol”. Does it have a well-known shorter name or abbreviation? (I'd need it for an archtecture diagram labeling the data paths where this protocol is used) :-) --[[User:RokerHRO|RokerHRO]] ([[User talk:RokerHRO|talk]]) 12:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
== Google ==
"It is also used in very high-scale World Wide Web products including Google and Facebook." No source for that? It's fairly common knowledge that Google primarily (and almost exclusively) uses their own Bigtable instead of MySQL. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.72.137.116|208.72.137.116]] ([[User talk:208.72.137.116|talk]]) 12:58, 3 September 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:At least they [http://zurlocker.typepad.com/theopenforce/2005/12/googles_use_of_.html used to] use MySQL, is there any source that says that Google is NOT using MySQL any more? It rather seems like they use Bigtable for certain, specific services like youtube and google maps etc. I am no expert but it would be great to have a source (either way) to verify / falsify this claim. Thanks --[[user:Hannes Röst|hroest]] 11:49, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::Google uses MySQL for some subsystems, and has contributed patches to the MySQL source. There was a talk by Google people about that at the MySQL Conf and Expo in April 2009, see [http://www.mysqlconf.com/mysql2009/public/schedule/detail/6903|High Availability and Scalability Patches from Google] -- [[User:Isotopp|Isotopp]] ([[User talk:Isotopp|talk]]) 10:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:: And this in summary means that in fact Google.com does not use MySQL and the search engine (could not even have been done in MySQL anyway) is NOT MySQL. Presenting it differently is a blatant lie [[User:Yourbane|Yourbane]] ([[User talk:Yourbane|talk]]) 12:49, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
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