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===[[Bayview Apartment]]===

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Either real estate spam or [[WP:VAIN|conflict of interest]]. No assertion of notability. <strong><font style="color: #082567">[[User:Husond|Hús]]</font>[[User:Husond/Esperanza|<font color="green">ö</font>]]<font style="color: #082567">[[User talk:Husond|nd]]</font></strong> 03:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

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*<s>'''Delete''' Per nomination</s>. '''Merge''' per new evidence. [[User:L0b0t|L0b0t]] 03:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''. There are millions of apartments in the world, and this one isn't anymore notable than the rest.--'''[[User:TBC|<font color="#007BA7">TBC</font>]]<big>Φ</big>[[User talk:TBC|<font color="#007BA7">talk?</font>]]''' 03:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''. Most likely real estate advert. <font color="orange">[[User:DoomsDay349|Dooms]]</font><font color="purple">[[User talk:DoomsDay349|Day34]]</font><font color="green">[[User:DoomsDay349/Esperanza|9]]</font> 04:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' non-notable building -- [[User:Zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] ^{[[User_talk:Zzuuzz|(talk)]]} 04:19, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', non-notable building. [[User:JIP|<font color="#CC0000">J</font><font color="#00CC00">I</font><font color="#0000CC">P</font>]] | [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 06:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

*'''Weak delete''' Not too notable, but seems to be a large building, and the artice seems quite good. [[User:MichaelBillington|Michael Billington]] ([[User talk:MichaelBillington|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MichaelBillington|contribs]]) 11:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

*<small>'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Australia|list of Australia-related deletions]]. </small> <small>-- [[User:MichaelBillington|Michael Billington]] ([[User talk:MichaelBillington|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MichaelBillington|contribs]]) 11:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)</small>

*'''Comment''' the original author makes an assertion of notability on the [[Talk:Bayview_Apartment|talk page]]. This is not well covered in the article and is currently unverified. In the spirit of [[WP:BITE|not biting the newcomers]] I've suggested he work on sourcing this assertion in the article and will withold judgement until we've had some time to try and do so.--[[User_Talk:SiobhanHansa|Siobhan Hansa]] 13:30, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

==TO DO==

*'''Merge''' to an article on the developer [[Westpoint Corporation]] with a reference to the bankruptcy issues ref this cached news article [http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:3jedhZEXFqcJ:thewest.com.au/20060203/business/tw-business-home-sto133362.html] and also [http://www.theage.com.au/news/Business/Westpoint-investors-seek-legal-advice/2006/01/24/1138066789310.html] : - 6,000 investors involved including 900 for a Sydney development in York Street. http://www.westpoint.com.au/ refers to http://kordamentha.com/westpoint/info/creditor.aspx it is a large bankruptcy case with national news coverage and would thus be notable if anyone wishes to write a holistic and encyclopaedic article that is not more usefully at wikinews. At least as notable as [[University of Melbourne Student Union#Voluntary liquidation]].--[[User:Golden Wattle|Golden Wattle ]] ^{[[User_talk:Golden Wattle|talk]]} 21:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

*[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Chemical_images_that_should_use_vector_graphics Chemical images that should use vector graphics]

**'''Comment:''' Stub of [[Westpoint Corporation]] started--[[User:Golden Wattle|Golden Wattle ]] ^{[[User_talk:Golden Wattle|talk]]} 22:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chemistry/Image_Request WikiProject Chemistry/Image Request]

**'''Comment:''' This is likely to be one of Australia's biggest [[class action]]s.[http://kordamentha.com/downloads/newsdocs/The%20Age%20-%20Receiver%20revives%20Westpoints%20Melbourne%20flagship%20(3-3-2006).pdf] Accordingly, almost certainly notable not just another apartment building. However, I still think better merged.--[[User:Golden Wattle|Golden Wattle ]] ^{[[User_talk:Golden Wattle|talk]]} 22:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Chemistry_pages_needing_pictures Category:Chemistry pages needing pictures]

*'''Delete''', should we have an article on every large block of apartments now? [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] 21:44, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Drugs/Structural_diagrams WikiProject Pharmacology/Structural diagrams]

*'''Merge''' - per [[User:Golden Wattle|Golden Wattle]] and per the comments of [[User_Talk:SiobhanHansa|Siobhan Hansa]]. [[User:JROBBO|JROBBO]] 01:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per [[WP:DUMB]]. There's no evidence the collapse of the apartment building was itself significant news. The class action can be described in the article on the developer. --[[User:Shirahadasha|Shirahadasha]] 04:11, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

:'''Comment''', [[WP:DUMB]] is a humourous page, not an official policy. Agree with the rest of your comment though. [[User:Lankiveil|Lankiveil]] 05:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC).

==Chem==

**'''Comment:''' This is neither a real estate spam or conflict of interest. It is only a record for the historical page regarding the Wespoint collapse and the herigage buildings' history of the apartment. Of course, the apartment itself is the evident that the remaing investors survied are enjoying their life style with the facilities and environment of the apartment. The combined unique features of the apartment cannot be found in all other apartments in Port Melbourne. 30-Oct-06 {{Unsigned|204.74.20.14| at 06:02, October 30, 2006}}

===References / Links===

*'''Delete'''. The developers might be worth an article, but one of their otherwise unremarkable -- and adding vague handwaving adspeak ("due to its ___location, convenient shopping and dinning environment, and enjoyment of the leisure") doesn't make it remarkable -- doesn't. --[[User:Calton|Calton]] | [[User talk:Calton|Talk]] 07:57, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

*[http://www.cas.org/EO/regsys.html CAS REGISTRY Overview]

*[http://openbabel.sourceforge.net/ Open Babel: A Package to Decypher Computational Chemistry]

*[http://www.emolecules.com/ eMolecules Chemical Search]

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*'''Comments against deletion''' The primary purpose and goal of Wikipedia is to provide free education and knowledge exchange. The article of Bayview Apartment may sound like a real estate spam if the people read the article at the surface. Actually, the Bayview Apartment is a window opening to a broader explorer to the heritage buildings, which indicates the historical economy, culture, community in Port Melbourne. More information will be added regarding the heritage buildings if this article could be kept for future viewers. In the past decade, Port Melbourne has been dramatically and rapidly transformed from a working class slum to a very attractive and livable suburb closing to the Melbourne city. That’s why these words such as “due to its ___location, convenient shopping and dinning environment, and enjoyment of the leisure” were inserted into the article. Bayview Apartment contributed a remarkable and significant influence to the transformation of Port Melbourne, especially to the Bay Street, which is virtually a heritage street. The retail shops of the Bayview Apartment make the Bay Street more variable and viable within the Port Melbourne community. Then the article mentioned the collapsed developer Westpoint, who built the Bayview Apartment, inevitably Bayview Apartment become a historical mirror of the collapsed Wespoint. Westpoint went to under became one of the biggest news in the financial market in Australia history. Westpoint originally organized two schemes to investors through either buying the unit of the apartment or the promising notes through the financial planners and its sales network. The investors who bought the promising notes ended with the tragedy of their life saving lost. Those who bought the unit eventually are survived because today they still own the property and keep the market value and may enjoy a moderate capital gain in the current property market situation. The article paid attention to the investors survived. Does it sound like an investment scheme promotion seminar? The purpose of this article does not promote any sort of the investment but gives a future viewer a recognition that “bricks and mortar” make more common sense than “promising notes and mezzanine companies” if a future viewer may not be a sophisticated or astute investor. Therefore, the article itself is very educational to the future viewers, which exactly is in compliance with Wikipedia’s policies and objectives. Obviously, the notability of the Bayview Apartment speaks itself. After 10-20 years, people may forget the lesson of collapsed Westpoint (one of the most notable financial collapsing in the Australia history). However, if people walk pass the Bayview Apartment building and read this article in the Wikipedia, free encyclopedia; Bayview Apartment has full of the historical stories in a very broad aspect. 31/10/06 [[User:220.238.76.132|220.238.76.132]] 13:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

*[http://jmol.sourceforge.net/ Jmol]

*'''Merge''' Merge into Westpoint company article and redirect. The bankruptcy appears to be a very notable event making the company worthy of coverage on Wikipedia, but the apartment complex is just one of their projects. --[[User_Talk:SiobhanHansa|Siobhan Hansa]] 13:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

*[http://www.acdlabs.com/download/ ChemSketch]

*[http://www.chemaxon.com/marvin/ CML MarvinView]

*[http://bkchem.zirael.org/download_en.html BK Chem]

*[http://www.inkscape.org/ Inkscape]

**from ChemSketch, export as TIFF or WMF, then import in Inkscape

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**'''Comment:''' It is no doubt that Bayview Apartment is a window to those notable events. If the window was shutted, the viewers might not be able to see the insight/outsight. People may not be so enthusiastic and interested in finding the history for the sake of the history. But if people see the heritage buildings of the apartment, that may trigger their curiosity to type the words “bayview apartment” in the search box of Wikipedia. Then all the stories will be revealed and Wikipedia reached its objective.(Note: the Bayview Apartment is a huge complex which occupied a whole block of the land by multiple buildings. Two heritage buildings are a visible attraction) 01/11/06 [[User:220.238.76.132|220.238.76.132]] 13:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

*[http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/moin/ChemicalMarkupLanguage ChemicalMarkupLanguage]

* '''Delete'''. spam for non-notable apartment block. By all means include an article about the class-action lawsuit but this does not belong here. --[[User:Roisterer|Roisterer]] 11:33, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

*[http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/chimeral/resources/cml/chimeral/index.html Index of CML Molecule]

**'''Comment:''' The class action is involved by about 2,000 investors, which is the largest class action in this country. Notably and resourcefully, the Australia reputable lawyer firm Slater and Gordon has a specific webpage in dealing with failed Westpoint. 02/11/06 [[User:220.238.76.132|220.238.76.132]] 14:00, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

*[http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/talks/eth05/ Chemical Semantic Web: publishing &amp; CMLRSS]

*'''Comment''', Please sign your posts. See [[WP:SIG]]. [[User:L0b0t|L0b0t]] 13:41, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

*[http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/moin/CmlRss CmlRss]

*[http://www.randomfactory.com/cml.html CML Reference Collection]

*[http://cml.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page CML Wiki]

===Import Test===

*'''Comment''', Undisclosed conflict of interest. [[User:220.238.76.132]]/[[User:Donaldtong]] created the article up for deletion. [[User:L0b0t|L0b0t]] 13:49, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

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*'''Comment''', Please see signed user above. (previously did not know how to use[[User:Donaldtong|Donaldtong]] 14:15, 3 November 2006 (UTC) to sign. It is a learning curve for editing comments).[[User:Donaldtong|Donaldtong]] 14:15, 3 November 2006 (UTC)