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[[User:Vycl1994]] added the following entry to VIAF/errors section 2

[[Wikipedia:VIAF/errors#Two or more VIAF identities for the same article]]

* {{viaf|76770289}} {{viaf|75893116}} {{ill|deInterlanguage link multi|Konrad Haemmerling|de}} -Vycl1994

For what it's worth, I don't understand the role of section 2, in contrast to section 4 Parallel VIAF clusters for one identity. The section heading means to me that one should report [a] two or more VIAF bundles that include links to the same wikipedia article. And also [b] wikipedia articles that assign two or more VIAF identifiers, either within one template {{tl|Authority control}} (whose message displays only one VIAF link however many times its VIAF parameter is defined?) or in multiple templates (A.c. or {{tl|VIAF}} or others) or in handmade links. I have not discovered two such VIAF bundles or any such wikipedia articles, nor contributed to section 2. Other editors evidently understand its purpose differently.

--[[User:P64|P64]] ([[User talk:P64|talk]]) 17:59, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

[[User:P64|P64]], same to me, what is the difference between

*[[Wikipedia:VIAF/errors#Two or more VIAF identities for the same article]]

*[[Wikipedia:VIAF/errors#Parallel VIAF clusters for one identity]]

? Also it seems that [[User:Vycl1994]] is adding that information here, but not in Wikidata. Here it is a one-user show, in Wikidata it would mean collaboration with other users. [[Special:Contributions/77.11.92.241|77.11.92.241]] ([[User talk:77.11.92.241|talk]]) 19:55, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

::I don't know if anyone else considers this a clarification, per se, but for the most part, I have been using #Parallel VIAF clusters for one identity for redlinks and potential articles linked via {{tl|ill}}. Wikilinks listed in #Two or more VIAF identities for the same article, actually have an English Wikipedia article at the time I placed them on this page.

::IP, you also questioned me about duplicate authority files at [[Talk:Sunney Chan#VIAF]], but because the question is about authority control and not the article, I'll answer here. Authority control external links that appear in articles on English Wikipedia are pulled via Wikidata. but Wikidata shows a "single value constraint" error if both are listed. My only fix is to remove the duplicates. Choosing one identity to retain is false as there are often several. So, if there is a differentiated authority control, I move it to Wikidata, but when there are two or more differentiated datasets, I list them here only. You'll notice that [[Thomas McLernon Greene]], for example, has three VIAF datasets, two differentiated GND datasets, and two differentiated NLI datasets. All other authority control properties except those three are listed on Wikidata, solely to avoid the "single value constraint" error message.

::I post here regularly because I was under the impression that there were one or several editors communicating with OCLC about VIAF errors. That outreach seems to be inactive, but I have not found a similar page on Wikidata to make such error reports. [[User:Vycl1994|Vycl1994]] ([[User talk:Vycl1994|talk]]) 22:22, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

== Authority Control All Bios ==

The authority control tag can be added to any bio, regardless of whether Worldcat or others have yet created identity authorities for that individual. When/if an authority is created, then it is auto linked and displays on the Wikipedia bio page. So could code be adjusted to automatically tag every bio with authority links? [[User:Kdevans|Kdevans]] ([[User talk:Kdevans|talk]]) 21:07, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

== Deprecation of error page ==

To my surprise I see that [[User:Merrilee]] marked [[Wikipedia:VIAF/errors]] as " no longer the preferred way to contact VIAF staff" in {{diff|Wikipedia:VIAF/errors|904690687|904599760|this edit}}, {{diff|Wikipedia:VIAF/errors|905406780|905346829|and this one}}, asking people to email OCLC directly. Where and when was this decided? I have concerns that the page is asking editors - some of whom my have reasons to preserve their anonymity - to email an external organisation. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 14:11, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

:I agree that is rubbish and should be removed. While we might guarantee its authenticity and security, it is indistinguishable from what a troll might do to harvest private details of long-term editors. {{ping|Merrilee}} The suggestion that editors send email to report an error is not acceptable. I suppose it is entirely possible that no one has reported errors for a long time, but in case someone wants to do so, another procedure needs to be shown on a page at Wikipedia. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 22:44, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

:As [[User:Merrilee]] has not responded, I've removed the hatnote; and moved the following here as a sub-section. OCLC my choose to read the page, or not, but it is still useful to Wikipedia. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 12:56, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

===Status of this page===

Note: this page was established in 2012 and is no longer the preferred way to contact VIAF staff to notify regarding errors. The best way to alert OCLC to errors is to send an email to [e-mail] [[User:Merrilee|Merrilee]] ([[User talk:Merrilee|talk]]) 22:45, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

* I don't know any better way to track issues to completion, so I'll keep posting here and then send email as suggested above. --[[User:Vladimir Alexiev|Vladimir Alexiev]] ([[User talk:Vladimir Alexiev|talk]]) 15:29, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

*:[[User:Vladimir Alexiev|Vladimir Alexiev]] I've moved all the above section regarding WorldCat Identities to [[:d:Wikidata:WikiProject Authority control/WorldCat Identities errors]], which (being on Wikidata) is more adequate to track these issues; for VIAF problems, see [[:d:Wikidata:WikiProject Authority control/VIAF errors]]. --[[User:Epìdosis|'''Epì''']][[User talk:Epìdosis|<span style="color:green">'''dosis'''</span>]] 09:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)