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#'''Support''' - as per Ched Davis above, I can't recall seeing Skomorokh involved in anything problematic in any sphere. Will make a solid admin. [[User:Tony Fox|Tony Fox]] <small>[[User_talk:Tony Fox|(arf!)]]</small> 16:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' I'm confident this editor will make a good administrator. [[User:ChildofMidnight|ChildofMidnight]] ([[User talk:ChildofMidnight|talk]]) 16:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' the clueful contributor.—[[User:S Marshall|<
#'''Support''' I see no indication Skomorokh would misuse the tools. For some reason I thought he was an admin already. [[User:Timmeh|<span style="color:darkred;font:bold 10pt kristen itc">Tim</span>]][[User talk:Timmeh|<span style="color:black;font:bold 10pt kristen itc">meh</span>]] 16:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
#Good work around UAA, very clueful. '''[[User:Ceranthor|<font color="#2F4F4F" face="Century">ceran</font>]]'''[[User_talk:Ceranthor|<font color="#2F4F4F" face="Century">''thor''</font>]] 16:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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#'''Strong support''' - I wonder what took him so long! He probably doesn't remember interacting with me, but we did once, and it left me the impression that he would be a good admin. [[User:Master&Expert|'''<span style="color:Blue">Master&</span>'''<span style="color:#00FFFF">Expert</span>]] ([[User talk:Master&Expert|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]]) 17:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' Enthusiastic support, had a good impression from when seen you around (cliche but had thought you must already be an admin). Know of nothing to make me think you will misuse the tools. (Oh and nice nomination) [[User:Davewild|Davewild]] ([[User talk:Davewild|talk]]) 18:15, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' - Source of many valued contributions. Intelligent and clueful editor. Truly deserving of the tools, he earned it. -- [[User:OlEnglish|<
# As clichéd as it is, I thought that you were already an admin. Good luck! '''[[User talk:Garden|<font style="color:#9999CC;">weburiedoursecretsinthe</font><font style="color:#000099;">garden</font>]]''' 18:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. Seen him around, and I don't have any problems with giving him the administrator right. Best of luck, '''[[User:Malinaccier|Malinaccier]] [[User:Malinaccier Public|P]]. ([[User talk:Malinaccier Public|talk]])''' 19:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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#'''Support''' - Trusted editor. [[User:King of Hearts|King of]] [[User:King of Hearts|<span style="color:red;">♥</span>]] [[User talk:King of Hearts|<span style="color:red;">♦</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/King of Hearts|<span style="color:black;">♣</span>]] ♠ 23:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' No problems here. Good luck! [[User:Pastor Theo|Pastor Theo]] ([[User talk:Pastor Theo|talk]]) 23:28, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' Could have sworn he was one. [[User:GlassCobra|<
#Not going to join in the "best editor ever" chorus above, but no obvious problems and would probably have a use for it. – [[User:Iridescent|<span style="color:#E45E05;">iride</span>]][[User talk:Iridescent|<span style="color:#C1118C;">scent</span>]] 00:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
#Thought he was one, probably will wield the mop nicely, even though I had a [[User_talk:Skomorokh/ङ#Re:_Communism_and_religion_edits|~meh]] experience with him. [[User:Bsimmons666|'''Bsimmons<font color="#990000">666</font>''']] ([[User_talk:Bsimmons666|talk]]) 00:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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#'''Support''' One of the best. Clueful, friendly, and prolific. Hopefully won't spend too much time on admin actions, as his article improvements are of high value. -- [[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] ([[User talk:Quiddity|talk]]) 04:09, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. I have seen lots of your good work around. Further review suggests you are insightful and often witty. That's good enough for me.--<span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 04:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Strong support'''. Civil, capable, and witty...a very rare breed. '''''[[User:Bibliomaniac15|<
#'''Support''' - I have been waiting for this one. [[User:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#4E562C;font-weight:bold">Tiptoety</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#FFDB58">talk</span>]]</sup> 04:58, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' I think [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] said it quite well: "I trust Skomorokh." ---<font face="Georgia">'''[[User:RepublicanJacobite|<span style="color:#009900">RepublicanJacobite</span>]]'''<sub>''[[User talk:RepublicanJacobite|<span style="color:#006600">The'FortyFive'</span>]]''</sub></font> 05:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' From what I see you're a highly insightful and fair editor; even, per the neutral comment, towards ostracized groups of editors. I fully trust you with the tools. '''[[User:Themfromspace|<
#This RfA just made my day. Skomorokh has been someone who's made a huge imprint on me, an imprint of a hard working, dedicated, civil, humble, clueful, prolific, capable, insightful, and reasonable editor (what a mouthful). His article contributions are simply outstanding, and he manages to combine his article contributions with his other edits very nicely. It appears that he's not easily burned out, and can be a good admin for a while. I have complete confidence in him, and as such, I'm supporting his RfA. <small>([[User:X!|<span style="color:gray">X!</span>]] · [[User talk:X!|<span style="color:gray">talk</span>]]) · [[Swatch Internet Time|@285]] · </small> 05:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' I wouldn't normally vote in a 62/0/0.999999 situation, but the quality of this production deserves my time to hit the edit button and pile on. '''[[User:Wadester16|<span style="color:darkred">wadester</span>]][[User talk:Wadester16|<span style="color:darkblue">16</span>]]''' 06:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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#'''Support''' I think he'll be an excellent admin! [[User:Ethan a dawe|Ethan a dawe]] ([[User talk:Ethan a dawe|talk]]) 19:09, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''', would be a great asset to the overall project. [[User:Redthoreau|<font color="#FF3333">'''Red'''</font><font color="#FFCC00">'''thoreau'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Redthoreau|talk]])RT 19:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' Totally. Level headed, pragmatic editor who is clearly here for the right reasons. A pleasure to add to the pile on :) <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<
#'''Support''' Already acts like one, might as well make it official ;-) [[User:J.delanoy|<span style="color:green;">J'''.'''delanoy</span>]][[User Talk:J.delanoy|<sup style="color:red;">gabs</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/J.delanoy|<sub style="color:blue;">adds</sub>]] 21:57, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
#Why the hell not? [[User:Pmlinediter|<span style="font-family:Arial;color:blue">Pmlin</span>]][[User_talk:Pmlinediter|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#800000">editor</span>]] 07:36, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
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#'''Support''' Good nom statement and answers to questions. Will do fine. -<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS">'''[[User:Fastily|<big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small>]]'''</span> <sup><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Fastily|(T<small>ALK</small>)]]</span></sup> 17:45, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
#:'''Support''':Per Stifle.--[[User:Gordonrox24|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36B">Gordonrox24</span>]]''' | [[User_talk:Gordonrox24|<sup><span style="font-family:Arial;color:red">''Talk''</span></sup>]] 18:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
#:You've already supported, number 40. — '''''[[User:Explicit|<
#::Indented. –'''[[User:Juliancolton|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36648B">Juliancolton</span>]]''' | [[User_talk:Juliancolton|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:gray">''Talk''</span></sup>]] 18:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. The combination of mainspace contributions with interest in various admin areas show that the user will be good with the sysop abilities. Judging by the basis of their nomination, they have the ability to communicate clearly on the Wiki, and I'm glad to lend my support. -- [[User:Nomader|Nomader]] <sup><span style="font-size: 6pt">([[User talk:Nomader|Talk]])</span></sup> 18:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
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#'''Support''' I came accross the user on the wiki project vandalism studies and liked the thought he puts into his essays. I have not found a reason not to support. I think the user is very engaging and throughly thinks through problems. Full support [[User:Ottawa4ever|Ottawa4ever]] ([[User talk:Ottawa4ever|talk]]) 20:13, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' Great editor who is well qualified to be an administrator. [[User:Vision Thing|-- Vision]] [[User_talk:Vision_Thing|Thing --]] 20:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' No problems. [[User talk:Triplestop|'''<
#'''Support''' — [[User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] {{toolbar|separator=dot|[[User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]] }} 21:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
#''' Support''' <b>[[User:Will Beback|<span style="color:#595454;">Will Beback</span>]] [[User talk:Will Beback|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">talk</span>]] </b> 21:34, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
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#'''Support''' – I thought he was one already. His conduct around the wiki, where i've encountered it, has been excellent. I can't recall any negative experiences that i've had with Skomorokh. <span style="font-family:Copperplate Gothic Bold">[[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:black">'''''Firestorm'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Firestorm|<span style="color:red">'''''Talk'''''</span>]]</sup></span> 22:26, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. Fully qualified candidate. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 22:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' per Newyorkbrad. ;) '''[[User:IMatthew|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic;color:#000080">iMatthew</span>]] <span style="font-family:Century Gothic;color:#007BA7">[[User_talk:IMatthew|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic;color:#007BA7"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</span>''' at 23:22, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' Excellent user '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<
#This guy is great. And the lone neutral is laughable at best. [[User:Crotchety Old Man|Crotchety Old Man]] ([[User talk:Crotchety Old Man|talk]]) 01:45, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. I recognize this candidate only from work on his or her successful [[William Gibson]] FA. Smart and great user. -[[User:SusanLesch|SusanLesch]] ([[User talk:SusanLesch|talk]]) 03:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' – I remember one time thinking that Skomorokh was an admin, then checked and was surprised to find 'twas not so. Not too long after that, I started making the same assumption and didn't check, and have since been carrying around the idea that this excellent communicator is an admin. Now I come across this RfA. It looks as if my confused little mind will soon be a little less confused. That's good. [[User:Paul Erik|<span style="font-family:Comic sans MS;">Paul Erik</span>]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Paul Erik|<span style="color:blue;">(talk)</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Paul Erik|<span style="color:green;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup></small> 04:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' Civil, conscientious, courteous, well-informed, a consensus-builder – the editor has an great knack for “walking away from a fight" if the editing environment becomes too heated and personal. I wish that I had his patience. I admire him. [[User:J Readings|J Readings]] ([[User talk:J Readings|talk]]) 05:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' per TRMan. [[User:Tony1|<
#'''Support''' Good content contributor and a decent amount of edits unlike the usual 4,000 been here 4 months lets grab some tools tyoe of candidates.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
#Support. The candidate appears to be here to do what is necessary, what is compatible with the goal of the project, and what is clueful. —<strong>[[User:Anonymous Dissident|<span style="font-family:Script MT Bold;color:DarkRed">Anonymous Dissident</span>]]</strong>[[User_talk:Anonymous Dissident|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span></sup>]] 14:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#:<s>Support. Credit where it is due. [[User:Peter Damian|Peter Damian]] ([[User talk:Peter Damian|talk]]) 15:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)</s> Back to oppose. I have a very uneasy feeling about this one. [[User:Peter Damian|Peter Damian]] ([[User talk:Peter Damian|talk]]) 17:18, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' - Calm, conscientious, rational. And writes well too! Has the temperament and competencies for the job. Unreservedly trust him. —[[User:Mattisse|<
#'''Support''' Certainly. [[User:Shappy|Meetare Shappy]] <sup>[[User Talk:Shappy|''Cunkelfratz!'']]</sup> 17:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Yes'''. No problems here. A good, solid content contributor and apparent knowledge of policy. [[User:Cool3|Cool3]] ([[User talk:Cool3|talk]]) 18:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support'''— '''[[User:Daedalus969|<
#:<s>'''Support''' Knowledgeable, balanced and has a calm temperament. Good understanding of RS and NPOV. Need more of his ilk! [[User:Abecedare|Abecedare]] ([[User talk:Abecedare|talk]]) 23:48, 10 July 2009 (UTC)</s>
#::I am striking my !vote because I find the wording of comments like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Skomorokh&diff=301595641&oldid=301595292 the second part of this one] <small>("What is problematic about describing the Holocaust as something that is believed in? Is the minority opinion on the issue not termed 'Holocast denial'?")</small> troubling, and I have not looked into the editing history of Skomorokh deeply enough to know if this is just a matter of casual phrasing for rhetorical impact, or if it represents a more fundamental difference in our understanding what is NPOV and encyclopedic. [[User:Abecedare|Abecedare]] ([[User talk:Abecedare|talk]]) 00:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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#'''Support''' - being [[WP:HONESTY|honest]] is the most important asset of an editor, and more so an admin. This guy reeks honesty. --[[User:Cerejota|Cerejota]] ([[User talk:Cerejota|talk]]) 04:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' [[User:Colchicum|Colchicum]] ([[User talk:Colchicum|talk]]) 09:34, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
# '''Support'''. Strong candidate, net positive. — '''''[[User:Explicit|<
# '''Strong Support'''. About time! '''[[User:Aaroncrick|<span style="font-family: Tempus Sans ITC;color: #E49B0F">Aaroncrick</span>]]''' (''[[User_talk:Aaroncrick|<font color="#FE2712">talk</font>]]'') 23:01, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support''' per [[User:Coffee/RFA-standards|my criteria]]. --<small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap">[[User:Coffee|<big style="color:#ffa439">Coffee</big>]] // [[user talk:Coffee|<font color="#090">have a cup</font>]] // [[WP:ARK|<font color="#4682b4">ark</font>]] // 01:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)</small>
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#[[User:Kusma|Kusma]] ([[User talk:Kusma|talk]]) 06:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
# I'm [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] and of course I '''approve''' this message! - 10:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. Definitely a net positive. [[User_talk:Benjiboi| -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj<
#'''Support'''. net positive. If problems ''do'' occur, folks know where to come :) [[User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[User talk:Casliber|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 00:49, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. Absolutely. I've had nothing but good interaction with Skomorokh, who is among the smartest editors I know, and I like the way he is willing to think outside the box, however provocative that may be. --[[User:Jbmurray|jbmurray]] ([[User talk:Jbmurray|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jbmurray|contribs]]) 03:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
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:I am troubled by that ANI report. Mathsci, a respected editor, had some critical things to say there. It's odd that Skomorokh never responded there. Skomoroh, admins must be responsive to criticism. Can you explain why we should not see this as a potentially bad omen? --[[User:Goodmorningworld|Goodmorningworld]] ([[User talk:Goodmorningworld|talk]]) 15:28, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
::I had a look at that incident too; in the end the conclusion I came to was that it was rather overblown. My impression of Skomorokh's activities there was that at worst s/he was possibly taking a slightly too verificationist stance - the ANI report seemed premature and possibly based on personal disagreements; and the diffs provided to demonstrate a 3RR violation were ''seriously'' pushing the definition of a "revert". Skomorokh seemed, to me, to be removing the unreferenced PoV from the article rather than adding more; and cutting the content down to only that which was strictly supported by the sources. I'm not entirely sure Skomorokh behaved quite ideally there (a lucid response to the allegations at ANI probably would have helped, and perhaps a slow-down in editing while disagreements were settled) but ultimately I did not come to the conclusion that there was anything overtly bad going on. ~ [[User:Mazca|<span style="color:#228b22;">'''m'''a'''z'''c'''a'''</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Mazca|talk]]</sup> 16:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Yup, I was aware of that too, and I disregarded it. You can expect most people who come to RFA with 40k edits to have had some drama in their history (and if not, they aren't ready to be an admin because they're not venturing into controversial areas and hence lack relevant experience). In that case, I find the complaints against Skomorokh ill-founded, and his handling of drama by ignoring it rather appropriate.—[[User:S Marshall|<
:Yo, sorry for not addressing this earlier. Mazca above nails the aspect of my approach that contributed to the problem; I could certainly have handled the matter better, not realising at the time the sensitivity of American race relations. I don't remember that particular ANI thread, though the initiator [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Skomorokh&diff=260336655&oldid=260331057 did notify me]. Of course, for an administrator, ignoring drama is not an option. The issue spawned multiple threads as I recall, including [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive503#Stormfront_.28website.29|this one]] in which I discussed the article with Mathsci. Cheers, [[user:Skomorokh|<span style="background: #222; color: #fff;"><font face="Goudy Old Style"> Skomorokh </font></span>]] 18:54, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
#I think Skomorokh is a smart editor, makes intelligent comments in discussions and has contributions commensurate with what I expect from an administrator. On the other hand, Skomorokh has (on one occasion that I've seen) criticised the blocking/banning of disruptive pro-pedophilia advocates and Holocaust deniers - describing the former (since banned) of [[ephebophilia]], and the latter (since banned) of having an ''epistemological'' difference of opinion on the Holocaust. Perhaps this will sound like sour grapes, as the comment I refer to was left on my own RfA over a year ago. I hope the fact that this is a neutral and that more than a year has passed will allay those concerns, but perhaps not. But for his position on these issues, which I still find troubling, I would support. [[User:Nathan|<strong style="color:#0033CC">Nathan</strong>]][[User talk:Nathan|<sup><strong style="color:#0033CC"> T </strong></sup>]] 21:28, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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::Well, if nothing else this is as interesting a discussion as I've seen in the neutral section of an RfA. I don't advocate taking action against editors in group number 1 (those who hold a view), and in any case we couldn't - how would we identify them? In the specific cases that prompted your original comment a year ago, the editors involved had openly professed their views (including a man-girl love userbox and many discussion comments for the PPA, and anti-Semitic comments on noticeboards and elsewhere for the denier) and were involved in editing articles in the areas of dispute. As with any subjective decision making process, its impossible to draw a clear line between acceptable and unacceptable - but [[Potter Stewart]] knew how to deal with that problem, and so do we. I respect your position, though I disagree, and since my vote in any section will not effect the outcome I'll remain neutral. [[User:Nathan|<strong style="color:#0033CC">Nathan</strong>]][[User talk:Nathan|<sup><strong style="color:#0033CC"> T </strong></sup>]] 15:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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