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== The EEML Subarticles merged here ==

HiWith Ithis just[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=258198259&oldid=249761240 mergededit] the following three subarticles were merged here, and redirected each to their own chapter here:

* [[Goal Modelling]]

* [[Goal modeling in EEML]]

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:::::I wrote both articles on Dietz, and most of the DEMO article, and took his picture. -- [[User:Mdd|Marcel Douwe Dekker]] ([[User talk:Mdd|talk]]) 16:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

:::Somewhere I read, there are allready thousands of business process modeling languages. When I realized, I allready know of three initiatives at the [[TU Delft]] alone (one being DEMO), that number didn't surprise me any longer. Every (technical) university seems to be developing it's own initiatives. That seems to be the reality. This made it even stranger, that there wasn't a Wikipedia article on [[Business process modeling]]. I think it will be ideal, if there should be at least a series of a dozend specific languages, which can be complemented with one general (for example business proces) modeling article. My interest is in those general articles: Function modeling, Business Process modeling, Enterprise modeling, Enterprise Architecture Frameworks, UML, Data modeling etc... And there is enough work here. -- [[User:Mdd|Marcel Douwe Dekker]] ([[User talk:Mdd|talk]]) 20:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::I took the liberty of checking EMM/ODP and the person behind it, and wrote ana [[Richard Veryard]] article during the process. I found hardly any coverage on EMM/ODP although it is mentioned more then a few times. The pdf file on the 1994 article seems to be damaged. At present I think there is not enough coverage of the subject to justify ana separate article. -- [[User:Mdd|Marcel Douwe Dekker]] ([[User talk:Mdd|talk]]) 23:32, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

::::::Thank you - I'm flattered. I prefer not to edit my own article, but I have put a few biographical details on my userspace which you may find helpful. [[User:RichardVeryard/About me]] --[[User:RichardVeryard|RichardVeryard]] ([[User talk:RichardVeryard|talk]]) 03:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::::Thanks for the details, I could only use some. Now I think you do could correct mistakes. -- [[User:Mdd|Marcel Douwe Dekker]] ([[User talk:Mdd|talk]]) 12:14, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== EEML is (un)related to UEML ==

The Unified Enterprise Modelling Language (UEML) redirects to EEML but, to my knowledge, they are unrelated developments. See [[http://www.uemlwiki.org uemlwiki.org]] (which is maintained by me) for the background of UEML.

At least the redirections from UEML to EEML should be removed. I also offer to contribute a separate page on UEML based on the (free-for-all) materials on the Wiki. If I do not hear otherwise, I will proceed to do so in a few days.

[[User:Alopdahl|Alopdahl]] ([[User talk:Alopdahl|talk]]) 15:17, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

:Hi Andreas. Writing a separate article about the [[Unified Enterprise Modelling Language]] seems like a good idea. I will be glad to give you a hand, when ever needed. Now I didn't make the initial redirect, see ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unified_Enterprise_Modelling_Language&action=history here]'', but I did write the current history section, which claims UEML is an further development of EEML, which I read in François Vernadat (2002). Now you claim UEML and EEML are unrelated. But even in [http://www.uemlwiki.org/ uemlwiki.org] the page on the background states:

::''It developed and demonstrated a common abstract syntax and exchange format, which incorporated three important industrial European enterprise modelling languages: EEML (EXTERNAL 2000), GRAI (Doumeingts, Vallespir, Zanettin & Chen 1992) and IEM (Jochem & Mertins 1999). ''

:So it seems to me they are not that unrelated. Both seems a product of EU funding, and if I am not mistaken the developement of UEML started after EEML was developed. Some people seemed to be om both development teams, but this is just a guess. On the other end your the expert here, and I am just an outsider (My effort here is part of my attempt to get a PhD started in this field).

:One remark which could be helpfull. You are planning to use the material of the uemlwiki.org, which you claim is free-for-all. At the wiki itself I couldn't find any disclaimer, which explains the terms of use. In Wikipedia this is often a source of trouble. -- [[User:Mdd|Marcel Douwe Dekker]] ([[User talk:Mdd|talk]]) 21:08, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

::Thanks for your comments and apologies for overstating my point. I was trying to argue that UEML is quite different from EEML today, as it tries to solve another type of problem. But "unrelated" is too strong, I agree.

::I will proceed to draft a UEML page in a few days. I will re-write to avoid terms of use problems. It would be great if you can look over and improve afterwards. [[User:Alopdahl|Alopdahl]] ([[User talk:Alopdahl|talk]]) 06:57, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Ok thanks for explaining. I would advice you to start a draft version in your own userspace/sandbox first. Things work a little different around here, and an article like [http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informasjonssystem Informasjonssystem] wouldn't hold here, because of notability issues, see [[Wikipedia:Notability]]. In short: Wikipedia articles here need to be build on reliable third party sources, if they are around. Now I all seen they are present, and there are several other people involved in its development of which I recently wrote an article. So eventually there won't be a problem. If you create that draft, I can explain some more. -- [[User:Mdd|Marcel Douwe Dekker]] ([[User talk:Mdd|talk]]) 07:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

== Copy-paste registration ==

* In this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=249754328&oldid=231457013 edit] the [[Goal modeling in EEML ]] article was merged here.

* In this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=249756069&oldid=249754328 edit] the [[Goal-oriented Requirements Language]] article was merged here.

* In this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=249758379&oldid=249756956 edit] the [[Goal Modelling]] article was merged here.

-- [[User:Mdd|Mdd]] ([[User talk:Mdd|talk]]) 20:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== External links modified ==

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