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== Work in progress ==

I added a point: Wikipedia is a work in progress. I think some of the comments from new readers show they don't realize that most our articles are still under development. &mdash;&nbsp;Carl <small>([[User:CBM|CBM]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:CBM|talk]])</small> 15:45, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

: Not to mention they are written by laymen putting in their two cents. Not a reliable reference by any measure to begin with. Might want to make mention of the explicit bias and manipulation, too; the political leftist propaganda and politicization of some articles (outside of math, of course) [[Special:Contributions/50.35.103.217|50.35.103.217]] ([[User talk:50.35.103.217|talk]]) 23:55, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

== Other sites ==

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:::You know what would be really useful? A site with reviews of a wide range of maths text books. [[User:Yaris678|Yaris678]] ([[User talk:Yaris678|talk]]) 23:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

::::The essay looks otherwise fairly complete to me now, so perhaps we could just add a short list of definitely useful sites for now. [[User:Charles Matthews|Charles Matthews]] ([[User talk:Charles Matthews|talk]]) 19:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

:Stackexhange and its variants are a joke of a site. People dont get help there. These sites are mostly for the weak-ego'ed to find validation in their pseudo-contributions. Personally Ive never had a decent answer given to me satisfying a question. Not once. I do get platitudes and naive answers from people who dont understand the question. Or trivial and degenerate solutions, or non-answer commentary. But mostly I get people being patronizing and mocking the question. If the question is hard to answer, they will usually accuse you of cheating. And if the question is easy, they jump on it all too easily to win easy points with the community. Lots of mocking. Lots of pretentiousness. They are uncooperative. The tendency is not to teach or help the questioner, but to make oneself look skilled and educated, even when its a facade. And this isnt just my opinion. Its the opinion of many people I know, both student and faculty, at the University. Math majors and their math doctorate-holding professors all think the stackexchange network is an utter waste of time. This is rather the consensus throughout most of the math department, student and employee. This view also spans two university campuses and was also the perspective at community college. I dont waste my time with it anymore. They are decidedly closed to any scrutiny, as offering suggestions for improvement and pointing out the failings and the gaming of the system is considered "harassing" and will get you booted from their system. Its an echo chamber or mathematical egoists, and nothing more. Reality check: you actually get more answers and better help, more quickly, at yahoo!answers. [[Special:Contributions/50.35.103.217|50.35.103.217]] ([[User talk:50.35.103.217|talk]]) 00:01, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

== Categorising what we are doing here ==

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== Proposed rename / recategorize ==

This pageadvice may have been created by WikiProject members, but I beleivebelieve that its intended audience is Wikipedia readers rather than editors. IMO it would be better in [[:Category:Reader help]] and titled something like "Help:Using Wikipedia for mathematics self-study". Alternatively it could be moved to Wikipedia namespace (e.g. like [[:Wikipedia:Medical disclaimer]]). I.e. I propose removing the "essay" tag. See related thead above ([[#Categorising_what_we_are_doing_here]]). The talk page would still be in WikiProject Mathematics. Thoughts? [[User:DexDor|DexDor]] ([[User talk:DexDor|talk]]) 06:00, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

:Agreed on all counts. &there4; <span style="font: bold 1em Courier, monospace;">[[Special:Contributions/ZX95|ZX95]]</span> ^{<nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:ZX95|discuss]]<nowiki>]</nowiki>} 15:06, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

::Now changed as proposed. [[User:DexDor|DexDor]] ([[User talk:DexDor|talk]]) 18:54, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

== Simultaneously equation ==

I need to know more about maths and English and math test and subjects [[Special:Contributions/105.112.70.71|105.112.70.71]] ([[User talk:105.112.70.71|talk]]) 16:05, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

== Accessible from WikiProject Mathematics? ==

Is this article accessible, i.e., referenced, from [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics]] somewhere? Nothings obvious to me at least. [[User:PatrickR2|PatrickR2]] ([[User talk:PatrickR2|talk]]) 03:22, 4 October 2023 (UTC)