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{{GLarchive|November 2008}}
 
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== Nkwenkwe Nkomo ==
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File:World empires and colonies around World War I.png
Image:Imperialism2.png
Image:Flag of the Second Saudi State.svg
Image:Flag of Ethiopia (1897).svg
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'''Request:''' the US Ethiopia and Saudi flags are wrong... [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 13:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:''' Sorry, what's wrong with them? [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 23:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
**I think it's that they're anachronistic; Imperialism2.png seems to show a 50-star flag when it is supposed to be 45, it uses the modern Saudi and Ethiopian flags instead of the flags shown in the gallery above... --[[User:Golbez|Golbez]] ([[User talk:Golbez|talk]]) 00:47, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
**:Smacks forehead. I thought he meant something was wrong with the flags. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 02:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
== iPod lineup ==
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'''Graphist opinion:'''
[[:Image:Ireland.svg]] can apparently be toggled to make Northern Ireland disappear. Also [[:Image:Ireland stub.svg]] is republic only. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 19:11, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:So what do you want done? [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 23:42, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 
:Here is Ireland.svg with N Ireland off: [[:Image:Ireland outline.png]] [[User:Narayanese|Narayanese]] ([[User talk:Narayanese|talk]]) 23:43, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
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'''Request:''' SVG please --[[User:SelfQ|SelfQ]] ([[User talk:SelfQ|talk]]) 11:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:''' I gave a shot at converting the flag to Svg. What do you think? [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 23:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 
:I'll give the emblem a go. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 11:13, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::OK, something just came up, so I only got the main shapes down before being interrupted. Next graphist please! --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 11:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Shouldn't the svg flag also be fair use since it's derived of the fair use image. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 14:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Technically, it probably should be. But, there's no need for copyright paranoia. Also, since it isn't currently used in the article this keeps it from getting deleted. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 20:22, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Sorry for my late response, I had a internet blackout. Thanks Shep for taking this on, looks good so far. hope someone picks up on the seal.--[[User:SelfQ|SelfQ]] ([[User talk:SelfQ|talk]]) 20:39, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::So the emblem is waiting to be done, and all else is finished, correct? has anyone started on the emblem? [[User:James1293|James1293]] ([[User talk:James1293|talk]]) 00:31, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
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'''Article(s):''' [[List of Vancouver SkyTrain stations]]
'''Request:''' I just want someone to help me in converting this image to SVG format. Thanks. -- <fontspan facestyle="font-family:Chiller"; font-size="3:medium;">'''[[User:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#FCB926">SRE.K.A<s>nnoyomous</s>.L.</span>]][[User talk:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#5C2F83">24</span>]]'''<sub>[[Special:Contributions/SRE.K.A.L.24|[c]]]</sub></fontspan> 23:02, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:'''
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:::Jackaranga, May you please use a neutral point of view against me instead of calling me a "reputable editor". I am trying to help. Also, the original version of the map, the one you pointed out, include the [[SeaBus]], the [[West Coast Express]], and the pointers for the expansions/projects. So I made the one I am requesting for conversion just to remove those. I also don't know how to make an SVG file. All I'm saying is please use a neutral point of view and language. Thank You.
 
By the way, thanks to J.smith for fixing the licensing/source info. -- <fontspan facestyle="font-family:Chiller"; font-size="3:medium;">'''[[User:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#FCB926">SRE.K.A<s>nnoyomous</s>.L.</span>]][[User talk:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#5C2F83">24</span>]]'''<sub>[[Special:Contributions/SRE.K.A.L.24|[c]]]</sub></fontspan> 03:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:"reputable editor" is a compliment. "''adjective: held in good repute; honorable; respectable; estimable: a reputable organization.''"[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reputable] ---[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 13:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::On further note, converting a JPG to SVG is about 20 times the work then actualy just modifying an image that is already in SVG format. Next time link to the SVG version of the file and ask for it to be modified. ---[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 13:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 
*That ought to do it. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 22:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
**Crap!!!!!! Anyone know why the numbers got smaller, when I didn't even touch them? [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 22:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
***Thanks for coverting the picture to svg. The only problem is, as mentioned above by yourself, are the wordings. Thanks again! -- <fontspan facestyle="font-family:Chiller"; font-size="3:medium;">'''[[User:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#FCB926">SRE.K.A<s>nnoyomous</s>.L.</span>]][[User talk:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#5C2F83">24</span>]]'''<sub>[[Special:Contributions/SRE.K.A.L.24|[c]]]</sub></fontspan> 22:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
****Also, can you remove the note of the Canada Line opening, as the Canada Line is still undecided whether or not if it will be branded with SkyTrain. -- <fontspan facestyle="font-family:Chiller"; font-size="3:medium;">'''[[User:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#FCB926">SRE.K.A<s>nnoyomous</s>.L.</span>]][[User talk:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#5C2F83">24</span>]]'''<sub>[[Special:Contributions/SRE.K.A.L.24|[c]]]</sub></fontspan> 22:25, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
*****Sorry I missed that one. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 22:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
There is something wrong with both of these images. The Millennium Line stations, Sapperton and Braid, are switched, so I need them to be switched back to their original positions. Thanks. -- <fontspan facestyle="font-family:Chiller"; font-size="3:medium;">'''[[User:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#FCB926">SRE.K.A<s>nnoyomous</s>.L.</span>]][[User talk:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#5C2F83">24</span>]]'''<sub>[[Special:Contributions/SRE.K.A.L.24|[c]]]</sub></fontspan> 20:09, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
:Please keep discussions about the same image in the same section. Thanks. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 20:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
::The second image has been altered, but I'm not going to touch the orignal. I don't want to mess with text size of the numbers. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 20:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
== Oeste region ==
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Please, it's aslo a this map, not Portugal [[User:Cancelos|Cancelos]] ([[User talk:Cancelos|talk]]) 12:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion:'''I was looking for a different map, and it would help to know where the map is located. Portugal from the looks of it? Also, what article would this go into? Thanks! [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 21:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:[[:Image:LocalNUTS3Oeste.svg]] describes where in portugal it is. [[:Image:Mapa de Portugal.svg]] can be used to get the subdivisions. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 16:57, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
== Map of Portugal ==
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:Have you looked in [[:commons:Category:SVG maps of Portugal]]. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 20:15, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
:: I don't like others [[User:Cancelos|Cancelos]] ([[User talk:Cancelos|talk]]) 18:32, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:::What colors would you suggest, can you give us what the words say (diacritics and such), and what don't you like about the existing maps? That way we know not the replicate the problems. Thanks! [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 21:47, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:: It's Portugal's beige and SVG. [[User:Cancelos|Cancelos]] ([[User talk:Cancelos|talk]]) 13:14, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Not going to try this one but for whoever is I recommend using [[:Image:Mapa de Portugal.svg]] as a base. It's a complex map but it's easy to remove say municipal and national borders if only county borders are to be kept. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 16:46, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
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'''Article(s):''' [[Hangul]]
'''Request:''' Hello ! The Korean writing system have special rules of letter combinaisons, display on this [http://www.korea.net/korea/2008/korean_o03.jpg this external image]. It would be interesting to create an SVG image to showing the similar example. You can get the korean characters on [[Hangul]] or on the [[:ko:Main|Korean wikipedia]]. [[User:Yug|Yug]] [[User talk:Yug|<small><fontspan style="color:green;">(talk)</fontspan></small>]] 21:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 
: Am I right in assuming that the idea is to better illustrate the [[Hangul#Jamo_placement_within_a_block|Jamo placement within a block]] section? --[[User:Wiml|Wiml]] ([[User talk:Wiml|talk]]) 19:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion:'''<br />
I encourage new graphists to manage this request, that can be an good start to practice with Inkscape. ;) [[User:Yug|Yug]] [[User talk:Yug|<small><fontspan style="color:green;">(talk)</fontspan></small>]] 21:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
== White Americans ==
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<center><gallery>
ImageFile:Map of White Americans.png
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Image:Subprime diagram.png | original
Image:Subprime diagram.svg | svg
Image:Foreclosure Trend - 2007.png | original
Image:Foreclosure trend - 2007.svg | SVG
Image:Existing_Home_Sales_Chart_-_v_1.0.png | original
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Image:Mortgage loan fraud.png | original
Image:Mortgage loan fraud.svg | SVG
Image:Borrowing_Under_a_Securitization_Structure.png
Image:Borrowing Under a Securitization Structure.gif
Image:MBS Downgrades Chart.png | original
Image:MBS downgrades chart.svg | SVG
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:Question: Who vectorized these and didn't tell me? [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 22:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 
::Answer:Checking who uploaded them would be a good start, although the line graph doesn't look that accurate?. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 23:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 
::A question for some other people: Do you think having the exact #s at the head of the bars is an improvement or not? [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 22:39, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
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::Any idea why it gets so ugly at thumbnail size? I don't know that it would affect its use in articels, but I'm curious. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 21:08, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 
:::I fixed it. Text sometimes does not render very well in SVG images, so having it thumbnail size only makes it worse. I converted all of the text into paths, so it should look good now. --[[user:Pbroks13|<b><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">p<fontspan colorstyle="color:#254117;">b<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">r<fontspan colorstyle="color:#347C17;">ok</fontspan>s</fontspan>1</fontspan>3</fontspan></b>]][[User talk:Pbroks13|<sup><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000000;">talk?</fontspan></sup>]] 06:02, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 
:::::Thanx. Can you change "programe" to "program" ? [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 23:10, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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'''Article(s):''' [[BBFC]]
'''Request:''' There is a lot of noise around the edge of this image. Please could someone remove this noise. Thanks '''[[User:Mangwanani|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">Mangwanani</fontspan>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Mangwanani|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">(talk)</fontspan>]] </sup> 18:02, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:'''
:Not sure I see what you mean. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 20:01, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::Look around the outside edge of the black triangle. There is a lot of white noise in this area. While this may not be wholly visible in the chequered area it is noticeable on a black background. '''[[User:Mangwanani|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">Mangwanani</fontspan>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Mangwanani|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">(talk)</fontspan>]] </sup> 15:45, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:I also can't see any noise. Are we missing something? --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 10:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
::You can't see it on the checkered background but copy it into Word or something and give the transparency a black background and there is a white haze around the triangle which can't be missed... There was also the same problem with the 15 Certificate but I put that in the lab and that was fixed. '''[[User:Mangwanani|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">Mangwanani</fontspan>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Mangwanani|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">(talk)</fontspan>]] </sup> 10:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:::That's the best I could get it, but I only have MS Paint to work with. Someone with PS should be able to do this better with less hassle. Hope that helps. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 06:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
I just cleaned up the U one completely. I uploaded it back over the original. I'll do the 12 when I get a moment. [[User:Mfield|Mfield]] ([[User talk:Mfield|talk]]) 06:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 
I knocked out the 12 and uploaded it over the original. --[[user:Pbroks13|<b><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">p<fontspan colorstyle="color:#254117;">b<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">r<fontspan colorstyle="color:#347C17;">ok</fontspan>s</fontspan>1</fontspan>3</fontspan></b>]][[User talk:Pbroks13|<sup><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000000;">talk?</fontspan></sup>]] 09:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
== Cordoba flag ==
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Image:Federal Bureau of Prisons Seal.jpg
Image:Seal of the United States Department of Justice.svg
Image:US-DeptOfJustice-Seal.svg
Image:Seal of the Federal Bureau of Prisons Seal.svg
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:No, nothing's been done.... [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 01:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
::Haha! I'm sorry, thats kind of funny. How's this? --[[user:Pbroks13|<b><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">p<fontspan colorstyle="color:#254117;">b<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">r<fontspan colorstyle="color:#347C17;">ok</fontspan>s</fontspan>1</fontspan>3</fontspan></b>]][[User talk:Pbroks13|<sup><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000000;">talk?</fontspan></sup>]] 07:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 
:::Looks good, as best I can tell on this terrible monitor. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 08:31, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Easternbandcherokeeflag.png
Image:Eastern Band Cherokee Flag.svg
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'''Request:''' SVGify... [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 06:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:''' How's that? --[[user:Pbroks13|<b><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">p<fontspan colorstyle="color:#254117;">b<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">r<fontspan colorstyle="color:#347C17;">ok</fontspan>s</fontspan>1</fontspan>3</fontspan></b>]][[User talk:Pbroks13|<sup><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000000;">talk?</fontspan></sup>]] 06:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:Good, except the Cherokee characters are the wrong ones, and maybe make the star larger in the middle. But beautiful thus far! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 06:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
::Oops. I messed up the last letter. The text translates to "Tsa la gi yi A ye hli". Look at [[:Image:Cherokee Syllabary.svg|this image]] and match up the text with the letters. I think that it is just a font difference. --[[user:Pbroks13|<b><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">p<fontspan colorstyle="color:#254117;">b<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">r<fontspan colorstyle="color:#347C17;">ok</fontspan>s</fontspan>1</fontspan>3</fontspan></b>]][[User talk:Pbroks13|<sup><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000000;">talk?</fontspan></sup>]] 06:51, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:Looks good, but your last edit reduced the star size again. [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 07:00, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
::You sure? I never reduced it again. Try ctrl+F5. --[[user:Pbroks13|<b><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">p<fontspan colorstyle="color:#254117;">b<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">r<fontspan colorstyle="color:#347C17;">ok</fontspan>s</fontspan>1</fontspan>3</fontspan></b>]][[User talk:Pbroks13|<sup><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000000;">talk?</fontspan></sup>]] 07:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:That's a neat trick! What did I do when I hit ctrl+F5? Thank you so much for your beautiful work! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 07:17, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
::It clears your [[cache]]. Not that I know exactly what it means, but I know it lets you see changes in images and other things if it doesn't show them yet. And your welcome! --[[user:Pbroks13|<b><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">p<fontspan colorstyle="color:#254117;">b<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">r<fontspan colorstyle="color:#347C17;">ok</fontspan>s</fontspan>1</fontspan>3</fontspan></b>]][[User talk:Pbroks13|<sup><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000000;">talk?</fontspan></sup>]] 07:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 
:::Short explanation (Sorry): It basically tells your browser to go and get and render the website, even if it thinks it already knows what it looks like (When I learned it (On IE), Ctrl+F5 was called "Unconditional refresh"). [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 08:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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::We generally use this logo on a green background; at smaller sizes the trefoil is very washed out. --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font colorspan style= "color:gray;">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</fontspan>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup style="color:darkblue;">talk</fontsup>]]</b> - </i> 10:28, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion:'''
:I'm on it. /Lokal_Profil 17:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.236.228.40|92.236.228.40]] ([[User talk:92.236.228.40|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Done. everything in that image was asymmetrical actually. Made it symmetrical and filled in trifoil. Do you want even bigger stars? /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 23:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Looks good. Make the stars about 50% larger; compare to [[:Image:BSA universal emblem.svg]]. --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font colorspan style= "color:gray;">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</fontspan>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup style="color:darkblue;">talk</fontsup>]]</b> - </i> 10:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:Proportionally, the stars should be about 1/3 the width of the petal, so actually larger, please. [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 00:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::Chris- How about making the trefoil larger so the height is the height of the FdL? --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font colorspan style= "color:gray;">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</fontspan>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup style="color:darkblue;">talk</fontsup>]]</b> - </i> 01:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Usually that proportion is not done, because the trefoil has no lower bulk, see [[:Image:Sweden SSF.svg]]. [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 01:22, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 
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::Thanks. How is the current star size/positioning? /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 19:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:I reverted one step so the stars are more centered. I think it's great, what about you, Ed? [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 01:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::Looks great. Put it up at [[WT:SCOUT]] for review. --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font colorspan style= "color:gray;">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</fontspan>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup style="color:darkblue;">talk</fontsup>]]</b> - </i> 19:55, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Already done. Thank you, Lokal, please upload it over the original name, so we don't have to change it thousands of times, thanks! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 22:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::With original name do you mean [[:Image:Scout logo.svg]] or [[:Image:Scout logo2.svg]]? First would make more sense but second might be more used. Whichever way we go it would only take a short time on AWB to change all pages to point to whichever name we pick. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 13:44, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
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'''Article(s):''' [[Ramba (comics)]]
 
'''Request:''' This 8-panel comic strip is not only a bit graphic content-wise but is too busy for the infobox. Please pull the 4th frame out as a solo. That is, the second row down and on the right side showing the protagonist firing a weapon with the words ''STU-TU-TUNF''. If this could be made a single frame as well as improved, a bit sharper and any other clean-up it would be super-duper! We'll use the 8-panel version further down in the article. Thank you!!!! [[User_talk:Benjiboi| -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj<fontspan colorstyle="color:#FF4400;">e</fontspan></u><u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b<fontspan colorstyle="color:#CC0000;">oi</fontspan></u>]] 10:48, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion:'''
* Is there something I've done wrong or not explained? [[User_talk:Benjiboi| -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj<fontspan colorstyle="color:#FF4400;">e</fontspan></u><u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b<fontspan colorstyle="color:#CC0000;">oi</fontspan></u>]] 22:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
**Nope, it just happens that like everyone else here we're volunteers. Since no graphist has decided to take on this task as of yet, it is incomplete. Since this seems like a fairly simple crop job you may be interested in trying the crop yourself. We have a list of free image software that our graphists recommend [[Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Resources/Software|here]]. Hope this message is helpful. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 22:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
***I'm technically challenged so even a simple crop and clean is beyond my means at the moment. Thank you, for responding - usually the lab is quite fast so I was surprised this wasn't dealt with already. Any help appreciated. [[User_talk:Benjiboi| -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj<fontspan colorstyle="color:#FF4400;">e</fontspan></u><u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b<fontspan colorstyle="color:#CC0000;">oi</fontspan></u>]] 02:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:Made a crop, problem is that the original is at a very low resolution so a detail such as the 4th frame has an even lower resolution. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 17:47, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
::That's perfect! We're using it in an infobox so it's much better than what we had. Thank you so much!
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<center><gallery>
Image:Rev. Robert Park in 1951.jpg|Photograph scanned from PD book
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'''Request:''' Because I actually scanned it from the book, the image came out slightly crooked; I just would like to see it straightened. [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 00:17, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion:''' How's that? [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 00:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
:That's what I asked for. Thanks! [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 00:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
::Feel free to mark a request with {{tl|resolved}} when a graphist has completed the request to your liking. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 00:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
== Image:Logosch.jpg ==
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'''Graphist opinion:''' Can you please explain what you mean? It shows up for me just fine and if the image if free-use it should be on commons. [[Special:Contributions/63.80.111.2|63.80.111.2]] ([[User talk:63.80.111.2|talk]]) 19:33, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:Scouting logos are not counted as free use unless defunct. [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 00:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:The file was corrupt, in both IE7 and FF2. I've uploaded a PNG and make it transparent. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 20:44, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you so much! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 00:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
== Margaret Thatcher ==
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<center><gallery>
Image:Zaire-Arm-1971-1997.png|COA of [[Zaire]]
Image:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo.svg|You can use the lion head from this SVG.
Image:Coats_of_arms_of_Zaire_1971-1997.svg|SVG
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:Could you also do the spears in grey/silver. thanks. --[[User:SelfQ|SelfQ]] ([[User talk:SelfQ|talk]]) 23:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::I think I have it working now, but anyone with more experience, feel free to improve it. [[User:Tadpole9|Tadpole9]]<sup>([[User_talk:Tadpole9|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tadpole9|contribs]])</sup> 03:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I messed with it a little bit, more to try to make it resemble the original image. If the changes don't look good please revert them. Nice job btw. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 04:57, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Great work guys --[[User:SelfQ|SelfQ]] ([[User talk:SelfQ|talk]]) 18:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
==[[Banaba Island]]==
{{resolved|1=— [[User:Minisarm|<fontspan style="font-family:Verdana;color:#048">'''Sebi'''</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Minisarm:Minisarm|<sup><fontspan style="color:#37B">talk</fontspan></sup>]] 11:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)}}
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[http://map.sopac.org/data/virlib/TR/TR0334.pdf WATER RESOURCES ASSESSMENT]
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Image:Banaba rainfall average.svg|Bar graph
Image:Kiribati-CIA WFB MapMap_of_Kiribati_CIA_WFB.png|An existing map of Kiribati showing the ___location of Banaba
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:There is currently nothing suggsting that the images from SOPAC are free from copyright. Sorry. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 16:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::OK, I understand that, but the ___location map can be generated from existing Oceania/Kiribati maps. Thanks, [[User:Minisarm|Sebi]] ([[User talk:Minisarm|talk]]) 14:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Has the island geography been updated since [[:Image:Banaba Island.svg|1936]]? [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 14:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::::And with the bar graph. Since there wasn't any real data there I made my own. How's that look? [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 14:58, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::It is very good, but the blue color is a bit to dark, so, please, make it lighter. Thanks, [[User:Minisarm|Sebi]] ([[User talk:Minisarm|talk]]) 13:28, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Better color? Also, the map in the PDF is pretty much unusable due to quality. Has the island changed since [[:Image:Banaba Island.svg|this map]]? If not, it would be very easy to make a color version. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 21:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, now it is much better. No, the map has not changed, but I need the ___location map. [[User:Minisarm|Sebi]] ([[User talk:Minisarm|talk]]) 12:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry, I misread your request! I have a ___location map that is PD. I should be able to upload it later tonight to see if it fits your needs. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 19:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::OK, thank you very much. — [[User:Minisarm|<fontspan style="font-family:Verdana;color:#048">'''Sebi'''</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Minisarm:Minisarm|<sup><fontspan style="color:#37B">talk</fontspan></sup>]] 13:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::::The map I had won't work. If it's close enough to even identify Banaba, you can't see any of the other islands. Once you cn see the other islands Banaba isn't visible. Sorry. Anyone else have a good map? [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 21:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:I understand that. However, thank you for the graph. — [[User:Minisarm|<fontspan style="font-family:Verdana;color:#048">'''Sebi'''</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Minisarm:Minisarm|<sup><fontspan style="color:#37B">talk</fontspan></sup>]] 14:11, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 
===Location map===
'''Graphist opinion:'''
You find a good map of Kiribati with a mark of Banaba already(see the second one above).--[[User:Demoeconomist|Demoeconomist]] ([[User talk:Demoeconomist|talk]]) 15:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:It is great. Thank you. But can it be made SVG? — [[User:Minisarm|<fontspan style="font-family:Verdana;color:#048">'''Sebi'''</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Minisarm:Minisarm|<sup><fontspan style="color:#37B">talk</fontspan></sup>]] 19:53, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::OK. I'll mark it done, because the png map is also good. — [[User:Minisarm|<fontspan style="font-family:Verdana;color:#048">'''Sebi'''</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Minisarm:Minisarm|<sup><fontspan style="color:#37B">talk</fontspan></sup>]] 11:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
== Homeric_Greece.svg ==
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<center><gallery>
Image:Darya P. Saltykova by A.C.Ritt (1794, Hermitage).jpg
Image:Darya_Petrovna_SaltykovaDarya P. Saltykova by A.C.Ritt (1794, Hermitage).png|<center>png</center>
Image:Darya- P. Saltykova WhiteBackby A.C.Ritt (1794, Hermitage) crop.jpg|<center>jpg</center>
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'''Request:''' ''I have already vectorized this file!'' However, I am having trouble uploading it, and I get a "The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again." error when I try. I am posting the image at http://senduit.com/8a0dc9 if you would care to see it (it's done!) but for some reason I get that error. If you could help me either on this page or on my [[User talk:Mononomic|talk page]] it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! [[User:Mononomic|Mononomic]] ([[User talk:Mononomic|talk]]) 03:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:''' Uploaded at Commons ([[:Image:OrthoPerspective.svg]]) -- [[User:GateKeeperX|GateKeeper]]<sup>([[User talk:GateKeeperX|X]])</sup> <fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">@</fontspan> <fontspan facestyle="font-family:Comic Sans"; font-size="2:small;"> '' '' </fontspan> 04:02, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:Any ideas why it wasn't working? [[User:Mononomic|Mononomic]] ([[User talk:Mononomic|talk]]) 04:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
::No, but I think I've gotten the same problem once or twice before on a file. Maybe a software glitch? -- [[User:GateKeeperX|GateKeeper]]<sup>([[User talk:GateKeeperX|X]])</sup> <fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">@</fontspan> <fontspan facestyle="font-family:Comic Sans"; font-size="2:small;"> '' '' </fontspan> 04:08, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I see. Thanks for your help! [[User:Mononomic|Mononomic]] ([[User talk:Mononomic|talk]]) 04:10, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
== Takako Doi ==
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'''Graphist opinion:'''
*Posted Try 1 -- [[User:GateKeeperX|GateKeeper]]<sup>([[User talk:GateKeeperX|X]])</sup> <fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">@</fontspan> <fontspan facestyle="font-family:Comic Sans"; font-size="2:small;"> '' '' </fontspan> 15:17, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you! '''Please overwrite the original'''! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 15:21, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
::I'll overwrite it. {{done}} [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 04:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
==COA of the Seconde French Empire==
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'''Graphist opinion:'''
*PNG w/ transparent background -- [[User:GateKeeperX|GateKeeper]]<sup>([[User talk:GateKeeperX|X]])</sup> <fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">@</fontspan> <fontspan facestyle="font-family:Comic Sans"; font-size="2:small;"> '' '' </fontspan> 15:36, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:Cheers. --[[User:SelfQ|SelfQ]] ([[User talk:SelfQ|talk]]) 22:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 
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{{GLNF|PiKappaPhi.jpg}}
<center><Gallery></gallery></center>
File:Pi Kappa Phi CoA.svg|SVG
</gallery></center>
'''Article(s):''' [[Pi Kappa Phi]]
'''Request:''' Can someone convert this image to SVG. Thanks. — [[User:Littlealien182|<fontspan sizestyle="+1font-size:large;">''Ł''</fontspan>ittle<fontspan sizestyle="+1font-size:large;">''Ä''</fontspan>lien¹<sup>8</sup>²]] (<sub>[[User talk:Littlealien182|talk]]</sub>\<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Littlealien182|contribs]]</sup>) 20:55, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:''' I made one. The original says that it was made in 1909, so I tagged the new one with {{[[commons:template:PD-old|PD-old]]}} from the commons, making it no longer fair-use. --[[user:Pbroks13|<b><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">p<fontspan colorstyle="color:#254117;">b<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">r<fontspan colorstyle="color:#347C17;">ok</fontspan>s</fontspan>1</fontspan>3</fontspan></b>]][[User talk:Pbroks13|<sup><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000000;">talk?</fontspan></sup>]] 18:37, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 
:Wouldn't that make the original one PD-US too? [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 21:05, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 
::I've marked the JPG as such. [[User:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</fontspan>]][[User talk:Stepshep|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green"; face="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</fontspan>]] 23:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 
:::Wow, that looks great! Thank you so much for making this image. — [[User:Littlealien182|<fontspan sizestyle="+1font-size:large;">''Ł''</fontspan>ittle<fontspan sizestyle="+1font-size:large;">''Ä''</fontspan>lien¹<sup>8</sup>²]] (<sub>[[User talk:Littlealien182|talk]]</sub>\<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Littlealien182|contribs]]</sup>) 00:12, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::::The first version of the Coat of Arms was designed in 1909, "The current coat of arms is much different from the original." is what it says on [[Pi_Kappa_Phi#Coat_of_arms]]. Thus both the svg and the jpg are fair-use only. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 01:46, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 
:::::The final version (with all of the current modifications) was completed by 1909. The original version, that the passage is referring to, was created soon after the fraternity was founded in 1904. — [[User:Littlealien182|<fontspan sizestyle="+1font-size:large;">''Ł''</fontspan>ittle<fontspan sizestyle="+1font-size:large;">''Ä''</fontspan>lien¹<sup>8</sup>²]] (<sub>[[User talk:Littlealien182|talk]]</sub>\<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Littlealien182|contribs]]</sup>) 01:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 
The section in the [[Pi Kappa Phi]] article is incorrect. If you look at the cited reference, it indicates that the changes that took place "in the early years," happened before 1909. — [[User:Littlealien182|<fontspan sizestyle="+1font-size:large;">''Ł''</fontspan>ittle<fontspan sizestyle="+1font-size:large;">''Ä''</fontspan>lien¹<sup>8</sup>²]] (<sub>[[User talk:Littlealien182|talk]]</sub>\<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Littlealien182|contribs]]</sup>) 01:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:Ok. Technically it could still be a problem since the way the Coat of Arms was depicted might have changed although it contents have remained the same, ideally a scanned in version from 1909ish should be used to get around this problem. But I won't press on that. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 12:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 
::Hmm. Looking at [http://www.pikapp.org/starlamp/editors.cfm this image], this coat doesn't seemed to have changed much in the last 90 years... any thoughts? --[[user:Pbroks13|<b><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">p<fontspan colorstyle="color:#254117;">b<fontspan colorstyle="color:#006600;">r<fontspan colorstyle="color:#347C17;">ok</fontspan>s</fontspan>1</fontspan>3</fontspan></b>]][[User talk:Pbroks13|<sup><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000000;">talk?</fontspan></sup>]] 06:38, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Possibly the design of the lamp might be under a new copyright, but then the image doesn't include the book either so if that was added in say 1911 the lamp might have changed to it's current shape at the same time. Wouldn't worry unless someone writes and complains though. /[[:User:Lokal Profil|Lokal]][[Special:Contributions/Lokal Profil|_]][[:User talk:Lokal Profil|Profil]] 16:47, 4 November 2008 (UTC)