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==From Zarove.==

James, you wrote this.

== Archive page ==

I have moved your talk archive out of the main namespace and deleted the redirect at [[^^James^^/archive1]]. If you have questions about that, please ask on my talk page. Happy editing, [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] [[User_talk:Kusma|(討論)]] 21:15, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

:Ooops! Thanks. [[User:^^James^^|^^James^^]] 21:54, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

==3RR block==

You have to back up your assertions. For example, if you want to claim that she has lied about being a member of the American School of Classical Studies, provide some evidence and documentation, else your claim should be considered baseless.

I have blocked you for a fourth revert at [[Acharya S]]. There is no 'entitlement' to a fourth revert, even if the 24 hours are up. You have been engaged in sterile edit warring at this article long enough. Bear in mind that policies here are interpreted in the spirit, not just the letter. Your block is for 24 hours.

[[User:Charles Matthews|Charles Matthews]] 21:53, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I have evidence. I was a reporter. Idid a story on her. Trust me, I could have posted a lot mor personal informaiton, but only posted what was alreayd made known. IE, her real name. Dr.Price made that available in publications.

:AJA continually reverts with stated intention ''not'' to talk it over, and with continued uncivility directed at myself and others. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A.J.A.&diff=prev&oldid=52509201] Why you "appreciate" such efforts is beyond me. Considering his refusal to discuss on the talk page, I think your strict interpretation of policy in this instance is a bit much. [[User:^^James^^|^^James^^]] 23:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I called the American Society for Greek Studies, and they have no record of her as a member. I am not placing this evidnece in because it is superfluous to the artilce, it is sufficient for me to tell others that the society has no record of her as a member. And perhaps post a link to their website, so others cna confirm. WOudl this be better for you?

::I have taken this up on Charles Matthews talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Charles_Matthews#Block_of_.5E.5EJames.5E.5E] but have had no luck. I should warn you against pursuing this yourself after the block as I have never seen a case like this where the user with a problem actually came off well. At worst you will get blocked again for trouble making and at best you will be told not to waste everyone's time. Depressing but true.

::I'm also taking this up at 3rr [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Three-revert_rule&curid=901222&diff=53495739&oldid=52210350] as A.J.A. got away with it by reverting us both with one blow - thus saving his "allowance". This is a terrible situation and I'm appauled by all of this. However I'm also getting increasing disillusioned with the ability of the admins to police themselves. Charles Matthews is on the arbcom so you will win no friends by fighting this and I'm sure I won't do too well by posting this.

::If you wish to try your luck you can post <nowiki>{{unblock}}</nowiki> on your talk page and another admin will look at the block. Since this has not been logged at [[WP:AN/3RR]] as it should have been no one else has had a chance to comment (I'm just watching the Acharya page as I've croosed swords with A.J.A. before and saw a message about your block). Be warned though - this may result in the block being lengthened. [[User:SOPHIA| <span style="color:purple;">'''Sophia'''</span>]] 13:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Hey Sophia, thanks for your comments. My concern about the block is the risk of being tarred a 'problem user' over time due to a rather strict and selective application of policy. I won't fight this because it is technically a legal block. Still, considering that AJA refuses to discuss on the talk page while reverting a number of peoples work, I do think blocking me in this instance is questionable. OTOH, the [[Acharya S]] edit war has been going on for many months, and Charles has applied the 3RR strictly against others in the past, so I don't feel so bad. [[User:^^James^^|^^James^^]] 19:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I have seen all this and am appalled. No wonder A.J.A. behaves as he does - his bad behaviour is being ignored and the way cleared for him. Charles Matthews obviously doesn't understand that in wikipedia all editors are equal so if what he feels is an attack against him justifies a ban then so should calling other editors "vandals". He also doesn't seem to have got the hang of the idea that if you are involved you should not issue the ban yourself unless the article space is in danger which it clearly is not in this case. I will take it up with him directly at the risk of being accused of showing "bad faith". [[User:SOPHIA| <span style="color:purple;">'''Sophia'''</span>]] 18:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

:He's actually [[User:skullnboner]] and there is a history with him at the Acharya page I think. I've asked Charles Matthews to log this one on [[WP:ANI]] as he should have done with your block too so I'm waiting for him to do that so that this discussion can take place in public. If he fails to log it then I will so I'll let you know when and where to comment if you wish to. Be warned as I don't expect this to go too well. [[User:SOPHIA| <span style="color:purple;">'''Sophia'''</span>]] 18:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

The 'Theme of Books' section is no place for criticism. Criticism must be balanced and present a fair representation of what she actually writes. Provide direct quotes to illustrate the claims she makes so that we can see for ourselves what she actually says first, then criticise her position. Otherwise it might look as though you were misrepresenting her position, then attacking your own misrepresentation. The well known straw-man fallacy. ^^James^^ 18:33, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

== Revert wars ==

I am leaving the same message for you and for A.J.A.

Looking at the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Acharya_S&curid=1752829&action=history article's history], in recent weeks you two have engaged in the most reversions by far. If ''either'' of you revert the article [[Acharya S]] again, I will suspend your editing privileges for a short period of time.

I'm tired of watching the same slow motion edit war go back and forth. Poor editing practices by one person do not justify them by another. I will not be editing the article further myself. [[User:TenOfAllTrades|TenOfAllTrades]]([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades|talk]]) 16:52, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

My crititisms where fair and baalnced. By Fair and Balanced you relaly eman in support of her claims. You woudl not allow any critisism. You won't even allow TEkton's link to stand. Your sole agenda seems to be promotion of Acharya S, not in offering any vlaid informaitom abotu her outside of her sales pitch. You want to make her appear reputable, as if her book and ideas are taken seriosuly in academia. They arent. SHe's a conspiracy theorist.

Note: There seems to be some confusion&mdash;to clarify, if a revert occurs, I would ''only'' block the party that reverts the article. It was drawn to my attention that the wording of my statement was unclear. I don't want either of you to mistakenly believe that I would block ''both'' of you in the event that only of you reverts. [[User:TenOfAllTrades|TenOfAllTrades]]([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades|talk]]) 22:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

:Please don't revert articles without comment in the edit summary. Using just [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Acharya_S&curid=1752829&diff=56934986&oldid=56934481 "RV"] leaves people wondering what's been reverted, and why. Thanks for discussing the issue on the talk page, though. Cheers. [[User:TenOfAllTrades|TenOfAllTrades]]([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades|talk]]) 04:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

As to direct quotes, thats a bit hefty. This artilce is a breif summation of Acharya S and her work, not a detialed ananlysis of the acual books in queasiton. They may get future Wikipedia articles on them. But for this aritlce it is sufficient to post a few basic facts she getswrong, so peopel get the general gist.

::Sure, no prob. [[User:^^James^^|^^James^^]] 08:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

In the History secion, a "Critisisms" area use to exist. I did not compose this. Noentheless, it served to balance out Acharya's claism of herself. You remove critisism, not to make the article fair and ba;anced, but yo mae it biased in faovur of her.

== antiscience ==

I have sent the administrator warnings.I have shown him the Christ COnsoiracy mailign list and how you discyss the edits.

A clarification about my changes to [[antiscience]]: the changes are negotiable, but [[WP:NPOV]] is not. In other words, the outcome of the negotiation must continue to conform to [[WP:NPOV]]. [[User:Alienus|<span style="color:darkcyan;">Al</span>]] 20:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

You dont weant fair or balanced, you want propoganda.

Ah! I get it. [[User:^^James^^|^^James^^]] 20:57, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

==[[User:Alienus|Al]]==

I have posted an outside view as I can't believe they consider the final straw leading to Arbcom calling someone an "edit warrior". If Al gets banned I'm going too as this place really is beginning to resemble the [[Stanford Prison Experiment]]. To be quite honest it takes people like Al to rock the cozy boat a little, stretch the bounds of understanding of some limited editors and let people like me make what is then seen as reasonable edits that bring the article closer to NPOV. With Al gone I'll be faced with either wasting my time or becoming more bolshy myself which does not sit very well with my British/avoid conflict at all costs mentality. [[User:SOPHIA| <span style="color:purple;">'''Sophia'''</span>]] 19:26, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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:You are spot on which is why you know it's ultimately pointless. Shifting the ground on entrenched editors with strong POV's is as you say a dirty job and I dislike conflict and don't see why I should do it for a hobby. Al steps up to the mark in a way I admire (although in the past his methods sometimes left a lot to be desired) and don't have the stomach to emulate. I'd rather be gone than effectively sign my name to heavily partisan articles. [[User:SOPHIA| <span style="color:purple;">'''Sophia'''</span>]] 21:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:I don't know what you're talking about. [[User:^^James^^|^^James^^]] 03:08, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

== Re: [[G33]] ==

Thanks, I'm not going to get invloved in it since it seems like nothing more than a stupid wheel war. Thanks for bringing AN:I to my attention though. --[[User:Pilotguy|<span style="color:#000000;">'''Pilotguy'''</span>]]^{'''('''[[User_talk:Pilotguy|<b style="color:#0000FF;">''roger that''</b>]]''')'''} 17:51, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

::Does [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Acharya_S&diff=prev&oldid=23431648 this diff] ring a bell? You blanked out comments from several users. Don't blank comments. --[[User:Ragib|Ragib]] 03:11, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

* Erich Fromm

::: oh, I removed the section I had added before because geni had modified it.

^^James^^, I borrowed the Erich Fromm quote from your page, hope you don't mind.--[[User:Tomtom9041|Tomtom9041]] 15:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

::: Compare http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Acharya_S&oldid=23425311 (my original post)

::: to genis mods here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Acharya_S&oldid=23428140

==End of drama ==

:::and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Acharya_S&oldid=23428757

Sorry for my behavior, I should have waited before I responded.

I really have no ill will against Acharya S. or her followers.

As far as placing a link to further information, my website is not a 'personal' website or blog. As an item clearly labeled as commentary, it does not belong on her wikipedia entry. However, I would find it appropriate to include it on James Churchward's page, right next to the entry that says he influenced her.[[User:Jchurchward|Jchurchward]] ([[User talk:Jchurchward|talk]]) 04:37, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

==Rfa thanks==

:::Isn't what geni did considered vandalism? If so, I was only trying to correct it. (I have a user account now.)

Thanks for supporting my recent [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Bigtimepeace|request for adminship]] which was successful with 89 supports, 0 opposes, and 2 neutrals. Unfortunately all I can offer is this lame text thanks rather than some fancy-smancy thank-you spam template thingy. I was very pleased to receive such strong support and to hear so many nice comments from editors whom I respect. I’ll do my best with the tools, and if you ever see me going astray don’t hesitate to drop a note on my talk page. Thanks again for your support!--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] <small>| [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]]</small> 03:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

::::I called it vandalism. Of course, the rules are rather unclear regarding talk pages, so many people might disagree. In any case, James, I think your removal of the voting section was rather magnanimous, and a reasonable way to avoid an edit war. I must say that, although I agree with most of Geni's points, I disagree greatly with his methods, and I consider his removal of the voting section (twice!) to be extremely impolite.<p>By the way, regardless of whether there is a vote, I'd like to know what exactly you wanted us to vote on: the short name (initial + last name) or the full name. If the latter, then I would say don't worry about it. It's been days since any edit of the article included it, and I think the consensus on leaving it out is pretty clear.<p>Reply here if you want; I'll watch this page for a while.<p>&mdash; [[User:Nowhither|Nowhither]] 20:31, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

== Acharya S ==

I was going to ask for a vote on having her name at all. I realized of course that the name is available on google... still I thought I had a compelling case for its removal, but perhaps was a little overzealous in its pursuit. No biggy. Interesting culture here on wikipedia. I will learn more about it, will add more content to AS's page, and am thinking of setting up a wiki-based site of my own (as I heard that could be done.)

Hey, cool, thanks for pointing that out. -- [[User:Gekritzl|Geĸrίtz]] ([[User talk:Gekritzl|talk]]) 22:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|AfD]] nomination of [[Acharya S]] ==

:It certainly can. Plenty of Wiki software is available under an open-source/free-software license. I imagine the MediaWiki software (which is what Wikipedia runs) is available under such a license. &mdash; [[User:Nowhither|Nowhither]] 18:11, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|left|48px|]]An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for [[Wikipedia:Deletion process|deletion]]. The nominated article is [[Acharya S]]. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also [[Wikipedia:Notability]] and "[[WP:NOT|What Wikipedia is not]]").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Acharya S (3rd nomination)]]. Please be sure to [[WP:SIG|sign your comments]] with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).

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==3RR warning==

Please do not keep undoing other people's edits without discussing them first. This is considered impolite and unproductive. If you continue, you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing Wikipedia under the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]], which states that nobody may [[Wikipedia:revert|revert]] an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. Thank you. --[[User:Ragib|Ragib]] 18:39, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

'''Please note:''' This is an automatic notification by a [[WP:BOT|bot]]. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --[[User:Erwin85Bot|Erwin85Bot]] ([[User talk:Erwin85Bot|talk]]) 01:09, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

== Christ Myth ==

Even when reverting vandalism? But thanks for the 3RR tip. [[User:^^James^^|^^James^^]] 18:42, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi you were active on the Christ Myth page during the month of december. It would be helpful to everyone if you indicated how you felt the conversation went in December [[Talk:Christ_myth_theory#Dec_5th_poll]]. Thanks in advance [[User:jbolden1517|jbolden1517]][[User talk:jbolden1517|<sup style="color:darkgreen;">Talk</sup>]] 11:59, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

:You are welcome. In this case, it is an edit dispute. I've given the warning to both the parties involved. --[[User:Ragib|Ragib]] 18:45, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

==Hello==

I would say the "fun" is worse than ever. It is so hostile there - Eugeneacurry has basically said that he will start dispute resolution against me - and I've only been back 3 days! Never been threatened with that one before. You should look at the course he links to as justification for the book he wants to use as a source. The joke is it is exploring the evidence for a historical jesus!!! Own goal or what ;-) My biggest problem is time as I'm full on at the moment so hopefully we will get this sorted promptly.[[User:SOPHIA| <span style="color:purple;">'''Sophia'''♫</span>]] 09:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

:Congrats on the babies - you've been pretty busy these last few years! Mine are all growing up (20,17,14!!) but I' working full time and doing voluntary work as well so I have virtually no time for wiki these days. It's a bit scary how ferocious it has become and certain editors seem to know their way round the rules very well. I don't see how them not moving on their points is anymore disruptive than me repeating my stance. It will be interesting to see if the wheels of wiki are able to deal with vested interests well these days - this holocaust stuff looks like revenge for the creationists being labeled as denialists. Looking on the web the moon hoax/skin head stuff is very new (last decade) and does look like a "wedge strategy" approach as popular interest in the lack of documentary support has grown. The growth of more scientific historical techniques will be interesting as the current approach seems to state opinions/theories as "fact" with no admission of uncertainties. Hope the babes are well and I will try to add a moderate voice to the debate. [[User:SOPHIA| <span style="color:purple;">'''Sophia '''♫</span>]] 18:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

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:You seem to be the only editor who has agreed to mediation that has not yet posted a statement. Could you please try to do so within the next 24 hours? Thanks. [[User:NuclearWarfare|<b style="color:navy;">NW</b>]] ''([[User talk:NuclearWarfare|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 18:47, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

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== correction ==

Hi James, yes I meant the exact opposite, she is only notable and well known by her pseudonym . Listen why not ask rhe question and start a straw poll to see where general opinion is? [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 11:23, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

==[[Christ myth theory|CMT]]==

Stirling effort, ^^James^^. I'm distracted at the moment. [[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthony]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]]) 20:48, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

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