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'''Important note to voters: there's no need to vote for each individual article here, if you want to keep/merge/delete all, without exception.''' Go back to the [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Esoteric programming language related|main discussion]] if you want to vote that way; the admins tallying votes will take both the general votes and the individual votes for each article into account when deciding whether to delete.
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* '''Keep'''. I would suggest keeping this as a place to preserve the thin residue of useful content from the rest. As against a category, it has the advantage that we can include webpage links to languages that are somewhat interesting, but may not merit full articles (for example, several "single instruction set" languages can reference the fact that, whilst intended as a joke, it has been demonstrated that a useful and powerful computer can be built with a single instruction "set"). I note also, however, that this list includes several languages that may be little known, but which under the given definition are not "esoteric" (AKI, [[Bon programming language]], MDPN, MUF, [[O xml|o:XML]], SSK and maybe [[ALPACA programming language|ALPACA]]). Oh, and get rid of the red links so people don't recreate articles. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', to merge esolangs into it. [[User:Mikkalai|Mikkalai]] 05:03, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
*'''Category''': This shud be made into a category, not a listing page. -- [[User:Zzo38|zzo38]] 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)
====[[Hello world program in esoteric languages]]====
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*Delete after ensuring content is not lost. The content belongs to the respective programming language articles. There is no point in this article. It's not a list, it's not a comparison. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 17:07, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' as a valid sublist of a large "hello-world"-related topic [[User:Mikkalai|Mikkalai]] 05:05, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
*'''External''': If you dont want a source code depository on this wikipedia, then maybe you can make it a external link. -- [[User:Zzo38|zzo38]] 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)
====[[23 programming language]]====
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:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there are no size constraints, and there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
::Do we have any evidence that this topic exists? Is it verifiable? If so, keep, else delete on the basis of Google test. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 17:02, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:::[http://www.winterbergs.de/software/23e.htm Here's] some clear evidence that it exists. Note that that page would be ignored by the extremely flawed Google search criteria above. [[User:Factitious|Factitious]] 19:09, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''merge''' & redir. [[User:Mikkalai|Mikkalai]] 05:06, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. [Read the article, please.] There's a link to the homepage of 23[http://www.winterbergs.de/software/23e.htm]! --[[User:ZeroOne|ZeroOne]] 21:33, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[4DL programming language]]====
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:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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* '''merge''' & redir. [[User:Mikkalai|Mikkalai]] 05:06, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' unless verified and found notable. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 18:31, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
::Well, it's easy enough to verify, by checking the external links from its entry. Note that those pages would be ignored by the extremely flawed Google search criteria above. [[User:Factitious|Factitious]] 19:14, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)
* '''merge''' & redir. [[User:Mikkalai|Mikkalai]] 05:09, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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*'''Delete'''. A joke, not a real programming language. A link to [http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=SLOBOL+LAIDBACK+SARTRE&start=10&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=5612%40uiucdcs.UUCP&rnum=12] or a similar page from [[Esoteric programming language]], and/or a mention in [[C Plus Plus]], would be more than sufficient. [[User:Triskaideka|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Triskaideka|Triskaideka]] 20:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[Chef (programming language)|Chef programming language]]====
60 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Chef programming language"''. Stub. '''Delete''' -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' seems notable. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 09:08, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. Appears to work, has properties worth discussing. [[User:Triskaideka|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Triskaideka|Triskaideka]] 19:48, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
====[[Choon]]====
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* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' notable based on [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22ETA+programming+language%22+-site%3Awebster-dictionary.org+-site%3Athefreedictionary.com+-site%3Awordiq.com+-site%3Afact-index.com+-site%3Awikipedia.org+-site%3Aphatnav.com&btnG=Search this search]. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 10:03, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[False programming language]]====
'''Keep''': 213 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "False programming language"''. Seems to be a bit more significant in a historic context. -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. [[User:Anárion|{]][[User_talk:Anárion|Ανάριον]][[Anárion|}]] 13:19, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Redirect'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. Notable. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 10:09, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[FIFTH programming language]]====
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:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. A joke, not a real programming language. A link to [http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=SLOBOL+LAIDBACK+SARTRE&start=10&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=5612%40uiucdcs.UUCP&rnum=12] or a similar page from [[Esoteric programming language]], and/or a mention in [[FORTH]], would be more than sufficient. [[User:Triskaideka|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Triskaideka|Triskaideka]] 20:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep''': This is not reel it is a joke, but you shud keep it enyways (maybe make a joke secsen.) -- [[User:Zzo38|zzo38]] 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)
====[[Floop programming language]]====
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* '''Redirect''' to the book. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. Notable. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 17:32, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[Fromage programming language]]====
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* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. Notable. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 17:57, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[Gammaplex]]====
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* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. Notable. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 18:17, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[HQ9 Plus]]====
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* '''Keep''' Try searching for "HQ9+". Duh. —[[User:Ashley Y|Ashley Y]] 01:08, 2004 Sep 30 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. It's HQ9+. it's named that way coz of MediaWiki's inability to have such a name. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 18:19, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete''': This article as well as the program langwige is stupit. Or maybe you shud '''keep''' it, I am not ser. -- [[User:Zzo38|zzo38]] 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)
====[[INTERCAL programming language]]====
'''Keep''': 844 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "INTERCAL programming language" ''. Seems to be more significant in a historic context -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
* Definitely '''keep'''. I would think most professional programmers would have come across this. It is the grandaddy of spoof languages, and unlike other joke langauges, it was a significant satire at the time. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not--[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 18:21, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC) paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:INTERCAL is a notable parody language, and I thought "historic context" was a large part of what Wikipedia was about. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 15:21, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
::that's why I voted for Keep (and 6 other [[Esoteric programming language]]s BTW) -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]]
*'''Keep''' for the same reasons as given above. [[User:Triskaideka|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Triskaideka|Triskaideka]] 20:46, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 18:21, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep''': One of the most interesting and historically relevant esoteric programming languages.
*'''Keep''': INTERCAL is still used a lot! -- [[User:Zzo38|zzo38]] 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)
====[[Iota and Jot programming languages]]====
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* '''Merge''' with [[Turing tarpit]] and '''redirect'''. These are actually kind of interesting because, although originally intended as jokes, they inspired research which came to the conclusion that quite a powerful and useful machine can be built on this architecture. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. Try searching individually for Iota and Jot. Duh. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 18:24, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[Java2K]]====
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* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. Again not searched for properly. search for Java2K or Java2K programming language without the quotes. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 18:26, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[Kipple programming language]]====
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* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. --[[User:Hemanshu|Hemanshu]] 18:28, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[Kvikkalkul programming language]]====
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:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Much more detail here than in most of the other articles. --[[User:AlexChurchill|AlexChurchill]] 17:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
:'''Delete''': While the page may be detailed, the language is devoid of value.
====[[Lambda programming language]]====
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**#The top part of the page is about a fictional language in [[Discworld]] and should be considered separately. (I would also vote to delete it as too trivial.)
**#On [[Talk:Ook]] we see that the article was already nominated for deletion and somehow survived.
*'''Delete/Redirect''': Quote "Representing the Brainfuck commands in a different way doesn't make a new language." Maybe just list it at the end uv [[Brainfuck]] wat uther way uv repesent it. Delete it or redirect it to [[Brainfuck]]. -- [[User:Zzo38|zzo38]] 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)
====[[Obfuna]]====
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:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[PATH (programming language)|PATH programming language]]====
290 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "PATH programming language"''. '''Weak Delete''' --[[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
* Ditto, a weak '''delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. A joke, not a real programming language. A link to [http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=SLOBOL+LAIDBACK+SARTRE&start=10&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=5612%40uiucdcs.UUCP&rnum=12] or a similar page from [[Esoteric programming language]] would be more than sufficient. [[User:Triskaideka|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Triskaideka|Triskaideka]] 15:46, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:Actually, there's a lot more to this language than that joke post. Have you read Colagioia's documentation, for example? [[User:Factitious|Factitious]] 19:28, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)
::(For reference purposes: [http://catseye.mine.nu:8080/projects/sartre/doc/sartre.html the documentation].) Yes, I have, long before I came to Wikipedia. It is still my estimation that Sartre (the language, not the philosopher) is a joke in the contexts both of philosophy and of computer science, and that a discussion of it, while entertaining, is without encyclopedic value. [[User:Triskaideka|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Triskaideka|Triskaideka]] 19:46, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep''': It is a reel program langwige (almost), altho nobudy has made interpreter for it. The document is kind uv mes up, so you beter fix it before make interpreter for it. You shud link to the document from here. -- [[User:Zzo38|zzo38]] 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)
====[[Shakespeare (programming language)|Shakespeare programming language]]====
'''Keep''': 641 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Shakespeare programming language"''. May have gotten some populartiy due to its name. -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
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*'''Delete'''. A joke, not a real programming language. A link to [http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=SLOBOL+LAIDBACK+SARTRE&start=10&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=5612%40uiucdcs.UUCP&rnum=12] or a similar page from [[Esoteric programming language]], and/or a mention in [[SNOBOL]], would be more than sufficient. [[User:Triskaideka|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Triskaideka|Triskaideka]] 20:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[SMITH (programming language)|SMITH programming language]]====
7 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "SMITH programming language"''. Substub. '''Delete''' -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[SNUSP|SNUSP programming language]]====
25 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "SNUSP programming language"''. '''Delete''' -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[Thue (programming language)|Thue programming language]]====
10 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Thue programming language"''. '''Delete''' -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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====[[TMMLPTEALPAITAFNFAL]]====
31 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "TMMLPTEALPAITAFNFAL programming language"
* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Even though implementations exist, this is still a joke with no practical applications, no philosophical ramifications, and, IMO, little humor value. [[User:Triskaideka|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Triskaideka|Triskaideka]] 15:06, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
====[[URISC]]====
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* Keep, RTFA again. Agree partially with Securiger, but would like to point out that ''wikipedia is not paper'' , you don't magically kill an extra tree or "use up an extra page". Merge and redicrect costs more HD space than leaving this as is. :-), (and it's tidier to have more pages IMHO). [[User:Kim Bruning|Kim Bruning]] 21:04, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep''': This is a importent article, just like [[OISC]] is. -- [[User:Zzo38|zzo38]] 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)
====[[Unlambda]]====
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====[[Var'aq]]====
30 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Var'aq programming language"''. Klingon programming language. Substub
*Keep. While a joke programming language, this one is notable even if only in a small group of users — I've heard of it before. [[User:Anárion|{]][[User_talk:Anárion|Ανάριον]][[Anárion|}]] 12:11, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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:'''Keep'''. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[Whitespace (programming language)|Whitespace programming language]]====
688 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Whitespace programming language"''. Seems to be more significant. '''Weak Delete''' -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
* Hmm. Many of those Google hits are unrelated, and many of the related ones are due to being slashdotted. I see very little evidence of it being used for anything. A very weak '''keep''' (but what will happen if I add an article for [http://search.cpan.org/~dconway/Acme-Bleach-1.12/lib/Acme/Bleach.pm Acme::Bleach]?) [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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* Keep. Has very interesting philosophical implications. After this you can't even trust the spaces in a document to be safe ;-) [[User:Kim Bruning|Kim Bruning]] 21:05, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
====[[Wierd (programming language)|Wierd programming language]]====
53 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Wierd programming language"''. Stub. '''Delete''' -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. [[User:Securiger|Securiger]] 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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