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== Bias ==
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"Mamet's dialogue, marked by a cynical, street-smart edge, (or, perhaps it might be noted by anyone who was paying attention, a completely stilted and contrived "edge")"
== Anti Gay remarks stay on the bill o'reilly's controversy page ==
 
Oh, sounds totally fair. Removing this. [[User:The holy barnacle|The holy barnacle]]
Look, unless somebody can dismay these FACTS, then it will stay on the article, do you understand? -The Bird {{unsigned|67.189.97.150}}
 
:I'm not sure what you're talking about. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 05:30, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Pronunciation ==
OH don't give me that, you told me to not add "nonsense" to the bill o'reilly controversy article, Now about 2 min. before you sent me the message I added his anti-gay remarks, which were the following: "On the December 8 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, host Bill O'Reilly offered a Factor jacket to radio "shock jock" Howard Stern. After Stern said, "I won't wear it, but I will give it to a crack whore" and handed it back, O'Reilly told him: "I'm not having this on some lesbian somewhere. It's not going to happen."
Is MAMM-et or MA-MAY?
 
I used to say /ma'mei/ but changed to /'mamet/. Can't remember where I picked this up from. [[User:Crosbie|Crosbie]]
 
MAMM-et. [[Val Kilmer]] had fun with this in his commentary on the [[Spartan (film)|Spartan]] DVD. -- [[User:Apathyjunkie|Apathyjunkie]]
Now look, here is what is going to happen, you are not going to send me another message regading the info I provided you as "nonsense" understood? Now if you do have a problem with this info feel free to discuss it on the discussion page.
-The bird
 
It is MAMMet - I know his sister, Lynn Mamet, also a screenwrite, quite well.. and this is her pronounciation.
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I added it to the criticism section because it's not criticism right now. There's a teensy bit of criticism, but it's refuted without being properly examined. The rest of the section seems to be a valentine to Mamet's theories on acting. Not that it isn't interesting, I'm not saying it doesn't belong, but it's obviously not criticism. If nothing else, I'd like to see a closer examination of the charges of misogyny. Not that I think they're correct, but if they are citable - if not defensible - criticisms, they deserve a lot more examination.--[[User:Anchoress|Anchoress]] 06:02, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
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==References on David Mamet==
==Comic books -> comic move==
In July 2004, Cambridge University Press published The Cambridge Companion to David Mamet, edited by Christopher Bigsby. The book includes essays analyzing Mamet's biography, his impact during various decades, and pieces on most of his work.
 
==Style of his Work Section==
I noticed on the [[Action (comic)]] and [[Crisis (comic)]] talk pages that you'd dropped a note in about cancelling the move. It does need doing - the guy who made the mistaken initial moves has been trying to correct them and run into problems fixing those two back to the original place ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ChrisGriswold#Comic_book_series.3F see discussion here]). I have largely left him to tidy up the last loose ends so it might be worth dropping him a note explaining the format of a successful move request. ([[User:Emperor|Emperor]] 15:55, 11 September 2006 (UTC))
Biography is too vague of a section... there's a few sections in there. Critical Acclaim, Reception, Dialogue Style, Writing Style... any number of new sections should be introduced.-[[User:BiancaOfHell|BiancaOfHell]] 08:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 
:The instructions for requesting a move are located at [[Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Steps_for_requesting_a_page_move]]. Please pass that on to the correct party (I was unsure whether that was indeed [[User:ChrisGriswold|ChrisGriswold]], as I see your discussion on his talk page has been abandoned for two weeks). -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 21:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 
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Biography needs to be fleshed out...[[Marlboro College]] lists him as a famous former professor; can we get some kind of confirmation on this page? [[User:Snyrt]]
 
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== re [[WP:RM]] ==
 
How does this page work? Are admins only supposed to deal with technical issues, e.g. when a history merge is required, or with all of thE requested moves? Most of the requested moves are at this page because discussion/consensus is needed rather than for technical reasons. Are we supposed to "close" these discussion by performing or not performing the page move, or aren't the editors involved in the discussion expected to do that, or what? [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] 07:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:Both admins and non-admins, as far as I can tell, are able to close move requests. The editors involved in the discussion could theoretically close the move request, but a third-party would probably be better in order to minimize bias. As you said, we are supposed to close the discussions by either performing the move or not performing the move. Normally, when I close a request, I add <tt><nowiki>{{subst:polltop}} '''move/no move/no consensus/etc'''</nowiki></tt> at the top of the Move Request section, add <tt><nowiki>{{subst:pollbottom}}</nowiki></tt> to the bottom, and remove the {{t1|move}} template from the top of the talk page. Some moves can simply be performed by any user (i.e. moves to non-existent pages, moves over redirects with no history) and so I help perform those. However, there are other moves, where the target article has a history, that I cannot perform myself (as dealing with that, of course, requires being an admin). More information on the process is available at [[Wikipedia:Moving guidelines for administrators]]; I don't want to provide superfluous information in my explanation here as I don't want to appear condescending, but if my response was insufficient, feel free to contact em again. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 16:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 
You closed a request for [[Sea of Fertility tetralogy]]. In what way was this request "malformed"? &ndash; [[User:Smyth|Smyth]]\<sup><font color="gray">[[User_talk:Smyth|talk]]</font></sup> 16:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 
: See step three at [[Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Steps_for_requesting_a_page_move]]. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 19:54, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 
This was a trivially obvious move with no possibility of controversy, which I would have done without asking if the target was unobstructed. The template was posted on the talk page and attracted no comments. What is the benefit in discarding such a request because of a tiny procedural deviation, especially when it is already 12 days old? &ndash; [[User:Smyth|Smyth]]\<sup><font color="gray">[[User_talk:Smyth|talk]]</font></sup> 21:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:Feel free to contact an admin (via [[Wikipedia:List of administrators]] or [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard]]) if you feel the move should be done immediately. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 21:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 
::I went ahead and did the move, because I saw it there, and checking Amazon, it's easy to see that we're just correcting an erroneous title here, and that nobody seems to be opposing it. Feedback is welcome; it seemed to me like a good corner to cut. -[[User:GTBacchus|GTBacchus]]<sup>([[User talk:GTBacchus|talk]])</sup> 02:40, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:::That's fine with me. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 03:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== [[Hadiths related to Mut'ah]] cleanup ==
 
Hi, this article has been languishing in cleanup for over a year. It's a subject I couldn't begin to address. You are the most knowledgeable person on Islam that I can think of. Can you give it a look? Cheers, and happy editing. [[User_talk:Dlohcierekim| :) Dlohcierekim]] 13:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:I'm at school right now, but perhaps I'll take a closer look at it later. However, at quick glance, I question whether the article is really needed in the first place. The listing of and commentary on hadiths do not appear to have an encyclopedic benefit. For the time being, I have endorsed the {{t1|prod}}. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 16:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 
::Thanks. I was afraid the article might not be a keeper.[[User_talk:Dlohcierekim| :) Dlohcierekim]] 16:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:Hi, I see this has gone to AfD. Can you explain what a Hadith is and why it would be encyclopedic? I'm way out of my element here.[[User_talk:Dlohcierekim| :) Dlohcierekim]] 15:45, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 
::I would have to say the [[hadith]] article answers your question best: ''Hadith are traditions relating to the words and deeds of the prophet Muhammad.'' Essentially, most things Muhammad advocated or did are considered ''hadith'', and advocated in Islam (especially [[Sunni Islam]]; the [[Sunni]] refers to the [[Sunnah]], which is supported by the hadith). So, the examples of hadith in the [[hadith]] article, like ''Modesty and chastity are parts of the Faith.'', would be a encouraged guideline in Islam. That's basically it; the [[hadith]] article really does a good job of explaining it, so you should look there if you want to know more. I suppose they could be considered encyclopedic as they are sort of like sources supporting certain rulings and practices in Islam, but I feel the article up for AfD is excessive.-- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 08:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:Thanks, I tend to keep based on "not paper" for stuff like this. Mostly, it gets deleted anyway. Cheers[[User_talk:Dlohcierekim|Dlohcierekim]] 12:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 
With regard to this comment [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hadiths_related_to_Mut%27ah_%28second_nomination%29&diff=75960286&oldid=75857659] I mean that I don't want other Muslim Wikipedians whom might be in favor of keeping that article to think that I voted transwiki/delete on that article solely because of Striver's contributions to it so I thought it would be better just to keep out of it.--[[User:Jersey Devil|Jersey Devil]] 05:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Highlights --> Headlines ==
 
Thanks for making this change on the Current Events page. I don't know if you are an admin or what position you hold, but I do feel strongly about the change. It looks much better now, and sounds more credible. Thank you [[User:Doktorbuk|doktorb]] <sub>[[User talk:Doktorbuk|words]]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Doktorbuk|deeds]]</sup> 11:40, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:I'm not an admin; I'm just a regular contributor like you. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 11:41, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Ridicule etc. ==
 
You wrote: "I agree with your opinion the reactions from the Muslim world on this are quite ridiculous. However, the problem is we don't have too many people saying ''this is ridiculous'' loud enough in the real world to get a place in the article. As far as I can see, it's some in the Muslim world protesting, the Vatican trying to defend the Pope's statements, and the rest of the world, save [[Angela Merkel]], staying out of this. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 20:46, 16 September 2006 (UTC)"
 
So, ahem, I searched news.google.com in the vain hope that somebody of weight would have called this affair ridiculous. Somebody did: [http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s3i11364] [[User:Azate|Azate]] 21:27, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 
: Ah yes; satire is the greatest source of [[introspection]]. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 21:52, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Talk Page Comment ==
 
Absolutely agreed that it was trolling, and as the rants spilled over to my talk page and back to the article's talk page, I've blocked the user for disruption. I note that it's not his first block. Take care -- [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|'''Samir''' <small>धर्म</small>]] 23:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for the help. As a side note, I took care of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pope_Benedict_XVI_Islam_controversy&diff=76131685&oldid=76130964 one other incident] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pope_Benedict_XVI_Islam_controversy&diff=76133131&oldid=76132778 another by the user you just blocked]. I'll just live with any accusations of bias that come my way. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 23:33, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 
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== Re: First edit day ==
 
Thanks for the greeting. :) &ndash; [[User:Chacor|Ch]][[User talk:Chacor|acor]] 20:58, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 
==Tonetare scandal==
 
Tonetare/Taretone scandal was this user attacking seven users creating sockpuppets/PA/NPOV/aruging and vandalizing. <font color="red">[[User:Sugarpine|S]]</font><font color="blue">[[User:Sugarpine|ug]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Sugarpine|ar]]</font><font color="darkyellow">[[User:Sugarpine|p]]</font><font color="orange">[[User:Sugarpine|in]]</font><font color="purple">[[User:Sugarpine|e]]</font> <font color="oceanblue">[[User talk:Sugarpine|t/]]</font><font color="aqua">[[Special:Contributions/Sugarpine|c]]</font> 00:17, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:I have now replied. <font color="red">[[User:Sugarpine|Sug]]</font><font color="green">[[User:Sugarpine|ar]]</font><font color="blue">[[User:Sugarpine|pin]]</font><font color="purple">[[User:Sugarpine|e]]</font> <font color="oceanblue">[[User talk:Sugarpine|t/]]</font><font color="aqua">[[Special:Contributions/Sugarpine|c]]</font> 00:26, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for the update, but I basically agree with your point over his move from ForestH2 to Sugarpine. [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="blue">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 02:01, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Sugarpine's RfA ==
 
No problem, glad we could clear it up. I thought your response was highly appropriate. As always, best, [[User:Gwernol|Gwernol]] 02:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Happy Ramadan ==
Many happy returns - I hope you're not alone in fasting. A Muslim friend of mine once explained how his elders coached him into fasting successfully for long periods of time. All the best, [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="blue">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 00:33, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for the greeting. I am alone, in some regards, with my fasting, but at the same time there are many with me. In all honesty, fasting for me is not an especially taxing ordeal; after day three or so, food doesn't even cross my mind during the daytime. However, perhaps I'll be retracting that in a few years when Ramadan falls in the middle of the summer, resulting in fasts that last nearly seventeen hours (as opposed to the current thirteen). -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 02:47, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:Fiddlesticks! Hehehehe... My Bombay friend kept the fast at the height of the Indian summer. I expect its prolly tougher in the Mid-east and Africa. [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="blue">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 02:59, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:Btw, fasting is not a foreign concept to me. I keep 24-hr fasts every week - no food, no water. [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="blue">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 02:59, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 
::Wow... any particular reason? -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 03:00, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:We Hindus do fast periodically, but I want to build my physical and mental constitution by doing it regularly. Its not all that "wow" - I do have many failures and hard moments. Check out [[tapasya]] - its somewhat close to what I'm "trying" to do. [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="blue">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 03:07, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:I agree that food isn't so hard to abstain from - water is a different issue. If you exercise regularly, or better yet are a bodybuilder, you can get through it easier. One must do work that one is most passionate about, or else he/she will get distracted and suffer. God is a great motivation, but I try to think of Him even when I'm gorging, so... Anywayz, all the best. [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="blue">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 03:13, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Ramadhaan mubaarak! ==
 
السلام عليكم
 
ramadhaan mubaarak, Tariq! we haven't spoken before, but i thought now would be a nice time to extend my warmest greetings and congratulations to you. ان شاء الله you'll find this month very rewarding both externally and internally, both in this life and in the Hereafter. a pleasure to meet you, and i look forward to working with you in the future to help improve articles on wikipedia. thank you, wa jazaakallahuma khairan! [[User:Itaqallah|<small><b><font color="#029DDD">ITAQALLAH</font></b></small>]] 12:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Re: L'shanah Tovah ==
 
And you, sir, have a meaningful Ramadan. - <b>[[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]]</b><small> [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]]</small> 00:38, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:BTW, I am from [[St. Petersburg]] which is 6 degrees south of the arctic circle. The longest day of the year is about 20 hrs sunup 4 horus sundown, and even when the sun is down, it never gets dark. And there are oodles of Muslims from the many Muslim provinces of Russia. What are they to do there? What about north of the arctic circle where some days don't end at all? - <b>[[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]]</b><small> [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]]</small> 00:42, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 
::The ruling on those cases differs, but all basically end with "you have to fast for a very long time". If you're truly interested in the matter, I would suggest (mainly page four of) [http://www.islamicity.com/PrayerTimes/Salat.pdf this article] (note ''sahur'' refers to the time before the fast, and that the end of sahur coincides with ''fajr'', which means dawn, when fasting begins). -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 03:12, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 
Heh... Dude has a fine string of titles after his name. Almost runs into a second line. Sounds a lot like Judaism, only more complicated. We pray three times a day - you five, we fast five days a year - you thirty. Thanks for the link. - <b>[[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]]</b><small> [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]]</small> 08:53, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Ramadan mubarak ==
 
Delayed greetings. Hope all is well. -- [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|'''Samir''' <small>धर्म</small>]] 01:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Review me ==
 
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== Portal:Current events section ==
 
Hi I have a question regarding the current events page you redesigned. I've stolen most of your design on [[Portal:Current events/Video gaming]], but I was wondering if you knew of a way in which I could get it to only display the days Monday-Friday. Since this is a very commercial area, nothing tends to happen on Saturday or Sunday, and if there is some big event, I can always add that page manually. Thanks! <font color="AE1C28">[[User:Jacoplane|jaco]]</font>♫<font color="#21468B">[[User_talk:Jacoplane|plane]]</font> 00:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal%3ACurrent_events%2FVideo_gaming&diff=78040932&oldid=78020233 These changes], coupled with the introduction of [[Portal:Current events/Video gaming/Inclusion]] did the trick. Right now, it only displays the last five days, but if you want, I can extend it to seven (or ten or something) or you may figure out how to edit the template yourself. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 04:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks for that! I'll try to figure out the template, so that I won't have to bother you in the future :) I'll take a look at the month archive page question you posted and let you know what I think. Cheers, <font color="AE1C28">[[User:Jacoplane|jaco]]</font>♫<font color="#21468B">[[User_talk:Jacoplane|plane]]</font> 16:25, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907 ==
 
About changing the blurb - I meant to add the info about the wreckage having been found to today's section (September 30) and edited the original blurb instead. Could a September 30 section be created? [[User:Fvasconcellos|Fvasconcellos]] 15:37, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
:You just have - thank you. [[User:Fvasconcellos|Fvasconcellos]] 15:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
==Admin graphs==
I am glad to see you are keeping these up to date :). FYI, the May number seems to be off a bit (we had it at 929, but it appears the correct number is 925), all the other months check out exactly so far. I have been reviewing the meta and en.wiki user rights logs to go backwards and track the numbers more exactly (see the bottom of my page [[User:NoSeptember/admincount]]). Small numbers changes don't mean much, but I figure why not see how accurate I can get. Cheers, [[User:NoSeptember/Signature12|<font color = "green">'''NoSeptember'''</font>]] 19:15, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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== RE: do not bite new users. ==
 
Nelson nyc has been adding this link to ban ki moon's page without any regard to NPOV principles. Firstly, as you may know, the article he had added is biased and not a reliable source for wikipedia. BTW, my last account's password is lost; just to let you know im not a sock puppet. [[User:Login to earth|Login to earth]] 20:37, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== [[WP:RM]] ==
 
Hi Tariqabjotu! Since I've seen you around [[WP:RM]] a lot, you've probably noticed that {{tl|WP:RM}} has changed quite a bit in the past week or so. Would you like to comment on the talk page about which format you like best? Thanks. —<span style="background:orange;padding:0px 4px;">[[User:Mets501|'''''Mets501''''']]</span><span style="color:orange; padding:0px 4px;background:blue;">([[User talk:Mets501|<font color="white">talk</font>]])</span> 13:49, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== ER ==
 
Hi Tariq - I request you to please visit [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Rama's Arrow 2]] when u have time. I need your criticism and advice on improving myself - I will greatly appreciate your input. Thanks, [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="blue">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 14:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== RfA ==
 
After Eid, shall we go for [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Joturner 3]]? - <b>[[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]]</b><small> [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]]</small> 03:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:Hey, I'd be up for it (although perhaps [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tariqabjotu 2]] would be a better ___location). Yanksox and Aguerriero both offered to nominate me back in August, but I said I'd hold off. And Kingboyk said he'd nominate me if I ask him in November. So, I think that meets the two-admin threshold I mentioned on [[User:Tariqabjotu/Rationale]]. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 03:25, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 
::Well, I hadn't known you were open to running again. You have another offer. A deep and meaningful Ramadan to you too. '''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[User talk:Blnguyen|BLabberiNg]] 03:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:::Thanks a million. I'll probably wait two more weeks, as I'm just too busy at the moment. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 03:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 
::I am ready when you are. - <b>[[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]]</b><small> [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]]</small> 03:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:::Me too. --<font color="3300FF">[[User:Aguerriero|Aguerriero]] ([[User_talk:Aguerriero|talk]])</font> 17:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 
You have an offer from the nominator of your very first RFA as well. &ndash; [[User:Chacor|Ch]][[User talk:Chacor|acor]] 17:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
:Here's another offer. Don't it feel good to be popular? -- [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|'''Samir''' <small>धर्म</small>]] 00:32, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
::Hmm... even though my time is being freed up, I'm still going to wait for my semi-wikibreak to conclude. However, that makes you, CrazyRussian, Blnguyen, Aguerriero, Chacor, Yanksox (offered in August), and possibly Kingboyk (offered in August but suggested I wait until six months after RfA 2). Even if all of you don't go through with your co-nominations, I am quite honored so many offers have been made at all. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 02:54, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:Hi. I've got it up and running at [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tariqabjotu]]. All the best! '''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' ([[User talk:Blnguyen|bananabucket]]) 02:24, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 
::(I assumed you meant [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tariqabjotu 2]]). Thanks a million! Note, however, it may be a couple days before this goes live, as several people (as noted above) wanted to co-nominate me. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 02:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 
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== Re; List of Brahmin etc ==
 
:I would take the initiative in getting the List of Muslims articles deleted, but I was criticized quite strongly when I did just that back in February (although there were additional factors that led to that criticism). Perhaps, however, it might have been better if I had co-nominated fewer articles to appear less drastic. -- tariqabjotu 20:09, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 
I personally can see no reason to have any page that is called List of Muslims (or Brahmins or Christians or sun-worshippers) because it must, of necessity be selective. I mean, if List of Muslims is to be entirely accurate, how many thousands of millions of people will be in it? "List of notable Muslims"? Who's to say. "List of Muslim athletes"? Pointless. (And in all of the above, Muslim can be replaced with any other religion, belief, whatever.)
 
There is probably need for a much wider debate within Wikipedia on the acceptability of such titles, but I am very new here and would not know how to start it, though I would happily support sucj a move. [[User:Emeraude|Emeraude]] 20:25, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== [[Vaccinium_vitis-idaea]] ==
 
Hi! Please take a look at [[Talk:Vaccinium_vitis-idaea]]. --[[User:Espoo|Espoo]] 00:56, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
==Move proposal: Départements of France==
Hello Tariq- I think I got [[Talk:Départements_of_France#Requested_move_2|it]] right this time. Thanks for the heads-up! -[[User:EHM02667|Eric]] [[User talk:EHM02667|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== Double redirects ==
 
Please be careful in the future when changing an article to a redirect that you are not creating a [[Wikipedia:Double redirects|double redirect]] like you did at [[Saint Andrew's Cross]]. I have fixed them all for you this time. --[[User:Pascal666|Pascal666]] 01:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for taking care of the collateral damage. I often would take care of only a couple double redirects &ndash; if any &ndash; because manually correcting double redirects, especially for articles with many of them (like [[Saint Andrew's Cross]]) could be quite tedious. Now that I see AWB takes care of double redirects (I'm sure I knew that at one point), I'll make sure I use that in the future when performing a move. Nevertheless, thanks again. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 02:44, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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==Re: Image:Texas Flag at DKR - North Texas vs Texas 2006.jpg==
*Hello Tariqabjotu - thank you for your messages and for your help with the situation. Yes, I agree with you, the Image should not have been used on the second page. That was my mistake. Most images I upload are free because I have either taken them myself, gotten permission for them, or gotten them from the US govt. I forgot that image had a non-commercial license. I have removed it from the article where it was not fair use. Thanks again, [[User:Johntex|'''Johntex''']]\<sup>[[User_talk:Johntex|talk]]</sup> 22:33, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:*Alright; I'm glad that got straightened out. It was an honest mistake; it happens to the best of us. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 22:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== Thanks! ==
Thanks! Best wishes to you and your family! [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="blue">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 22:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 
Many thanks for you wishes, and all the best! --[[User:Bhadani|Bhadani]] 04:06, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== New Orleans move ==
 
Could you please close the proposed move at [[Talk:New Orleans, Louisiana]]? It should have been properly closed as no consensus a while ago. Thanks in advance. [[User:Tinlinkin|Tinlinkin]] 05:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:I closed the move request. Note also you can close a move request by just removing the {{t1|move}} template from the top and, optionally, adding <tt><nowiki>{{subst:polltop}} '''some result'''. ~~~~</nowiki></tt> before a section and <tt><nowiki>{{subst:polltop}}</nowiki></tt> after it. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 05:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 
::Oh, okay. I thought closing a contested move request required administrator intervention, and is done by selected people, as with [[WP:AFD]]. [[User:Tinlinkin|Tinlinkin]] 05:32, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:::As far as I know, administrators are not the only ones allowed to close move requests. I'm not an administrator, and I've been doing it for a couple months now. No one has stopped me yet (most likely because [[WP:RM]] often gets backlogged and so the help is appreciated). I have gotten at least one complaint regarding a move request close, but that got resolved. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 05:41, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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And best to you and your family -- [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|'''Samir''' <small>धर्म</small>]] 05:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:Thanks; all is quite well in fact. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 22:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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== Yoghurt move ==
 
I commend your decision; I would have done the exact same thing had I had the ability to do so. Score one for the ''discussion'' team. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 04:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:Thank you! —<span style="font: small-caps 14px times; color: red;">[[User:Mets501|Mets<small>501</small>]] ([[User talk:Mets501|talk]])</span> 10:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== Templates and insults ==
 
No, that's not true. If used on an experienced editor it's a clear and calculated insult which says (at best) "You are too stupid to understand the rules, so I am spelling them out to you like a newbie". There is ''no reason'' to use {{tl|3RR}} on anyone who is familiar with the rule ''unless you want to insult them''. [[User:Guettarda|Guettarda]] 02:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:Well... I'm not sure if I'd go so far as to say it's a "clear and calculated insult." However, I do wish alternate templates that don't go over the basics of the rules like that could be written. {{t1|sofixit}} is by far one of the worst. (I used {{t1|sofixit}} as an example, so you wouldn't respond to that wish for alternate templates with precisely that template) Nevertheless, I will often use the standard templates in the rare situations I need to post them on the talk pages of longtime editors not because I want to insult the recipient, but rather because it's simpler (custom messages end up saying the same thing usually). That's why I was so alarmed by your response to Serge. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 02:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 
::Using a template to communicate with someone amounts to making the decision that they are not worth the effort of actually writing them a message. That's great for things like {{tl|welcome}} (people don't expect ''any'' welcome, so boilerplate is appreciated). This is also true of the {{tl|test} family of templates - more often than not, a vandal ''isn't'' worth your time. Beyond these (and perhaps some that I am unfamiliar with) boilerplate is fairly rude. Using {{tl|3RR}} to inform a new user of the 3 revert rule really isn't the best way to communicate with a new editor, but the benefit of informing someone of the rule may outweigh the fact that it's rude. Using {{tl|NPA}} has the benefit that it may save you replying to the insult.
::Using one of these templates on an established user does nothing but insult the person. It's safe enough that any established user knows the 3RR. It takes a couple seconds to figure out whether you are dealing with an established editor or a newbie. If you say "FYI - you're at three reverts" and the person actually ''doesn't'' know what you are talking about, they will say "what are you talking about". There is no way an admin can try to argue ignorance of the 3RR, and since Serge had responded to a comment of mine in which I had discussed how wrong it was for Mets501 to have move-protected the page when he moved it (I hadn't realised that it was move-protected initially), there is no way that he ''couldn't'' know I was an admin (unless he claims to be ignorant of the fact that only admins can move move-protected pages).
::Any established user should at the very least know the 3RR. Spelling out the rules s..l..o..w..l..y and in great detail is an insult. Including the diffs is aggressive. Serge's actions were clearly unacceptable. If you want to call someone stupid and threaten them, then you should be brave enough to call them that openly and deal with the consequences. Insults like Serge's are unacceptable, clear violations of [[WP:NPA]]. I see no reason to tolerate the sort of behaviour. [[User:Guettarda|Guettarda]] 20:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== bite ==
 
Asking folks to be reasonable is a bite? Okay... I'll try to remember that. Please vote. --[[User:Serge Issakov|Serge]] 23:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== Naming Conventions poll ==
 
I'm confused. I've seen references to "Tariq's proposal" but when I scanned, I found JohnK's proposal that you supported (move 27 AP cities). '''Can you point me to the most recent statement of your proposal?''' If your proposal is inactive, I intend to oppose the current proposal in favor of reopening the discussion around a proposal I can support.
 
In the name of antidisruption, I am willing to support some such proposal, even though I otherwise support the comma convention. These debates are just a PITA, and the AP list provides a sufficient backstop and rationale as to which cities to include. Thanks for your contributions to this discussion. --[[User:Ishu|ishu]] 04:12, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:The proposal they are referring to is [[Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_%28settlements%29#Yet_Another_Idea|this one]]. Serge closed john k's proposal and my proposal because people were complaining there were too many proposals open concurrently, not because there was anything wrong with the other two. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 04:28, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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:Wow; I really was not expecting that. Thanks! It seems like you're doing a couple random acts of kindness of your own... -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 00:27, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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== Valencia move ==
Hi Tariqabjotu. I closed a move discussion for the first time ([[Talk:Valencia_%28city_in_Spain%29#Requested_move_2|here]]). Could you please verify if it was done properly? Should a copy of the discussion be archived somewhere? Regards.--<strong><font style="color: #082567">[[User:Husond|Hús]]</font>[[User:Husond/Esperanza|<font color="green">ö</font>]]<font style="color: #082567">[[User talk:Husond|nd]]</font></strong> 23:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:You closed the move correctly; the discussion is not archived anywhere else. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 01:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 
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== E-mail ==
 
I responded. [[User talk:Yanksox|<font color="black">Yank</font><font color="red">sox</font>]] 00:24, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 
:Ah... you must have been thinking of the one I sent last night (unless my e-mail server is taking awhile). -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 01:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 
== Israel Railways images ==
 
Before marking images as [[template:no source|<nowiki>{{no source}}</nowiki>]], please take minimal effort to trace the source yourself. When dealing with images of some company, for example, please check that company's web site. [[User:Eli Falk|Eli Falk]] 08:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 
:Yes, I suppose I should do that in the future, as it appears several of the images you tagged were quite easy to find (although, for what it's worth, I was tied up doing some homework and didn't have a whole lot of time on my hands). Anyway, my apologies, and thanks for taking care of the sources for those images. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 11:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 
==Question about the [[Seal of the Prophets]]==
Hello Jotu, I'm curious... I seem to recall durinig editing on [[Muhammad]] that you were inclined to remove the '''see also''' link to the [[Seal of the Prophets]] article which as I recall you did because it was a bit too glorifying. Can you tell me why the ''Seal of the Prophets'' article is so contested as it appears to be? Thanks. ''([[User_talk:Netscott|→]][[User:Netscott|<span class='pBody' style='border: 0; color: gray; padding: 0; font-size: 100%;'>Netscott</span>]])'' 16:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 
:I haven't made substantial edits to the [[Muhammad]] article in a ''very'' long time; I don't remember removing the link, let alone why I removed the link in the first place. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 16:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks for the prompt response, I invite you to respond here if you'd prefer. How do you like to be addressed on Wikipedia now, as Tariq? I researched the phrase ''Seal of the Prophets'' and I better understand it now. Thanks again. ''([[User_talk:Netscott|→]][[User:Netscott|<span class='pBody' style='border: 0; color: gray; padding: 0; font-size: 100%;'>Netscott</span>]])'' 16:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
:::No problem. Yes, I prefer Tariq. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 16:28, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 
==New article you may want to edit==
Hello again Tariq, I've started a new article about Saudi Arabia's first feature film: [[Keif al-hal?]]. I invite you to contribute to it if such an article might interest you. Thanks. :-) ''([[User_talk:Netscott|→]][[User:Netscott|<span class='pBody' style='border: 0; color: gray; padding: 0; font-size: 100%;'>Netscott</span>]])'' 02:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'm a bit busy working on the [[Babur]] article, but perhaps I'll contribute if I have the time. This looks like a good [[Wikipedia:Did you know|Did you know...]] candidate once the article gets a bit longer. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 02:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 
== images with no license and source ==
 
Hi!
Sorry about uploading those files without specifying where I took them from. I did my best to fix that. However I still have a problem with the image [[:Image:Yair Lapid.jpg]]. I took it from the Russian Wikipedia and I don't know which license it is under.
 
[[User:Dirk gently|Dirk Gently]] 12:08, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 
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== Request ==
Hi Tariqabjotu,
 
There is a dispute over reliability of sources mentioned here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Muhammad#My_Sources]. I think they are reliable but Opiner thinks they are not. I am trying to form a consensus. Would you please let me know what changes should be applied to this section[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muhammad&diff=87220418&oldid=87208188#Animals] so that you agree with its addition (to *reformer* section here or to some other article). Thanks very much. I would like to chat with editors individually and when a consensus is achieved, request them to comment on the talk page that they agree with the section. --[[User:Aminz|Aminz]] 22:58, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 
:First, I think the inclusion of the full titles of sources (e.g. ''William Montgomery Watt, Professor of Arabic and Islamic Studies at the Unviversity [sic] of Edinburgh'') in the text is unnecessary. If the credentials of the source needs to be mentioned (and due to the edit war and overall volatile nature of the [[Muhammad]] article, they should), they can be placed in the footnotes. Additionally, I question the neutrality of the first paragraph at all because, although I'm sure these things were truly said by these sources, it appears to be a bit lopsided. I see a couple paragraphs essentially praising Muhammad for his treatment of animals (and even a statement that appears to denounce Christianity for it's anthropocentric views), but no contrary opinion. If I weren't too knowledgeable the subject (and, to be honest, I'm not), I'd want to know more about that contrary opinion, especially due to the last paragraph &mdash;
 
::''However, in Muslim culture hyena, bat, gecko, snake, and other reptiles as well as insects are considered to be ugly, dangerous, vicious, but also powerful and often ambivalent. While scorpion is considered as an ebodiment of demons and evil spirits.''
 
: &mdash; which seems to get short-changed, drowned out by the positive analysis of Muhammad and Islam. I'm not sure what you mean when you say ''(to *reformer* section here or to some other article)'', but I must say that reading the current ''Reforms'' section, to me, is quite painful as it appears that you all tried too hard to make everything verifiable. The lengthy quotes and long titles of scholarly distinction really are unnecessary (or at least not in the body).
 
:Your source from the professor at UC-Berkeley is okay (but not very good), unless there is contradictory evidence (in which case it would not be good at all). The professor appears to be an expert in engineering, a field far from Islamic and Near Eastern history, and so I would prefer a better source. But again, I don't see it as a significant issue. The second and third sources seem fine, and I really don't know much about the fourth source to say it's great (although the fact that it was published by an established publisher makes me optimistic). -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 00:45, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 
Thanks very much for your reply. "Additionally, I question the neutrality of the first paragraph at all because, although I'm sure these things were truly said by these sources, it appears to be a bit lopsided." It might be but the sources I've seen agree on that. If someone brings sources contradicting it, we can include them as well. I hope that sentence doesn't mean you would like to add a POV tag to the section :P The last sentence was added by User:TruthSpreader. I'll try to read the source myself. Thanks again for your feedback. BTW, article [[Reformations under Islam]] is just started. --[[User:Aminz|Aminz]] 01:07, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 
If you could help with reducing over-verifiability of the article [[Reformations under Islam]], I would be thankful. I am not good in english and furthermore have engaged in revert wars recently; whatever I do, with high probability it will be reverted a couple of times. --[[User:Aminz|Aminz]] 01:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 
==My RfA==
I understand why you voted against my RfA, but I beg you to reconsider. I have now expanded my answer to question (1), and as for the confusion with the RfA interface itself, that was largely due to my having no experience with that particular page and the idiosyncratic way that it works; that shouldn't impede my ability to be a good editor or a good admin. I have worked hard on Wikipedia and made a lot of changes, using my extensive knowledge of certain fields as well as commitment to [[WP:NPOV]]. Almost all of my changes have been well-received; and I'm desperate to become an admin. [[User:Walton monarchist89|Walton monarchist89]] 19:02, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 
:I'm sorry, but I do not think I'm going to change to support. I notice that you have made very few edits overall and in the project space (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?offset=&limit=500&target=Walton_monarchist89&title=Special%3AContributions&namespace=4 Wikipedia: contributions]) and despite your interest in vandal-fighting, I don't see any evidence in your contributions that you participate in vandal-fighting. Additionally, you can be a good editor without being ready for adminship. That is the category I believe you would fit in to. Thus, I suggest that if this RfA fails you continue to be a good editor and dedicate a bit of time to working in areas that administrators will need experience in ([[WP:AfD]] is a good place to look). Sometime before you seek adminship again, it may be a good idea to open an [[Wikipedia:Editor review|editor review]] to get some feedback on your progress. Some [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Admin coaching|admin coaching]] may be beneficial as well. However, please don't see adminship as a validation of your hard work toward improving Wikipedia. You don't need adminship to show you are an asset to the project, and thus there is really no need to be desperate to become an admin. Just take your time and return when you have a great amount of experience and Wiki-knowledge under your belt; adminship is first and foremost about serving Wikipedia. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 19:40, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 
::OK fair enough. Thank you for your advice. [[User:Walton monarchist89|Walton monarchist89]] 20:31, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 
== Biodiversity in Israel Palestine/Animalia ==
 
Hi Tariq,
 
Re: [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2006_October_17#Spiders_in_Israel_palestine]], I tagged [[Biodiversity in Israel Palestine/Animalia]] for speedy delete, however I wasn't sure about what to do with these [practically] orphaned Talk pages ([[Talk:Biodiversity in Israel Palestine/dragonflies and dasmeflies]],[[Talk:Biodiversity in Israel/Palestine]]). Also, I just saw your RfA, and I wish you the best of luck. Cheers, <font style="color:#22AA00;">'''[[User:Tewfik|Tewfik]]'''</font><font style="color:#888888;"><sup>[[User Talk:Tewfik|Talk]]</sup></font> 16:30, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 
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==your 3rr warning==
 
Hi, i know. Have you ever compared my version with the others? It's obvious that the users edit warring with me are trying to delete the sourced information which is a direct compilation from britannica. You can check this easily cause i already had given the link. The reverters are deleting every entry related with turkic people and replacing them with persian (not even iranian) and accusing the all the others as nationalist or pan-turkist vandals. What they are writing is story not history. I shall greatly appreciate if you would be kind enough to make a comparison and check the sources, then we can discuss the issue better. Regards. [[User:E104421|E104421]] 22:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 
: Britannica sources are okay, but sources with authors attached normally are better. I don't see the accusation of vandalism you are referring to, but you shouldn't fight fire with fire; that will only make the fire bigger. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 00:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 
:: As an academic, i know how to write an article better, but i gave the britannica and columbia just as an example. These are easily reachable and reliable sources. I recommend you to check the edit summaries/histories of these articles and compare them. You'll see a how the words changes to reflect pov. Just make a comparison. Connect to Britannica (which is very simple) and compare it what's written in the article or you can compare with my version where i cited britannica. They changed the content but kept the references. Whenever i correct them, they revert. Should we let them mislead people? They are using wikipedia to make their pov propaganda. This is a kind of vandalism or whatever you call it. Regards [[User:E104421|E104421]] 10:49, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 
== [[:Image:Baburn4.jpg]] ==
 
The image is, clearly, from the baburnama, which is centuries old, meaning it is public ___domain.--[[User:Irishpunktom|Irishpunktom]]\<sup>[[User_talk:Irishpunktom|talk]]</sup> 11:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 
:I have a (translated) copy of the ''Baburnuma'', but could not find the image in there. I see several other pieces of artwork, but this one does not appear to be one of them. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 13:03, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 
== RE: My talk page ==
 
You definitely make a good point, but the six articles you linked to had more than just E104421 and Tajik edit warring on them. Can you link me to one where it was just those two edit warring? -- [[User:Steel359|Steel]] 19:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 
:I would argue that [[Babur]] was really just an edit war between those two. Regardless, perhaps a [[Wikipedia:Requests for mediation|request for mediation]] is in order to try to organize all the parties involved in this together. Since the Mediation Committee is really tied up at the moment, maybe a couple neutral parties could try to resolve the dispute. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 20:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)