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With only Dailymotion listed, the list seems to forget about a few sites:

such as, the internet archive.

example: [http://www.archive.org/details/Abandonedhorrorcolor]

When it's opened in Firefox (version 3.6), I get the following text under the preview and embed this:

<blockquote>

Your browser supports the new <video> tag!

Would you like to try the new <video> tag?

</blockquote>

There must be other sites as well experimenting with the video tag?

Most will work with a fall back of course but anyway, support is support.

Or should we have a special section where it says: sites experimenting with HTML5 video tag?

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{{Quote|User agents should support Ogg Theora video and Ogg Vorbis audio, as well as the Ogg container format.}}

-- [[User: R3morse|r3morse]] [[User talk: R3morse|<fontspan colorstyle="color:orange;">(talk)</fontspan>]] 14:32, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

: It is a citation of a diff of a change done to an HTML page. --[[User:AVRS|AVRS]] ([[User talk:AVRS|talk]]) 20:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

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What other free (libre) media format has been proposed for inclusion in a W3C markup specification? PNG? SVG? TXT? RSS? WTF? None? It's not even '''required''' that useragents support or display images of any format at all - what's so special about OGG that it gets special attention from W3C? This isn't intended to be argumentative, I sincerely want to know what's behind this. It seems so contrary to the way any other peripheral media is considered in relation to Web markup language specifications and development. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.247.104.84|76.247.104.84]] ([[User talk:76.247.104.84|talk]]) 04:08, 8 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:The special part of ogg is that this format have no patents and everybody/every vendor can implement this format. The idea behind the video tag is that every browser should be able to handle the video without install an extra plugin - and on some os the plugins are not avaible, i.e. dos or old windows versions(and many other oses)![[User talk:Mabdul|<smallb style="font-family:bold 12px Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap"><font; color=":#000">[[User000000; talkfont-size:Mabdul|smaller;">mabdul]]</font></smallb>]] 20:32, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

:The idea is to avoid the current mess we're in regarding video on the Web. Beside Flash, you have Windows Media files, Quicktime files, Realvideo... Each requiring its own plugin/player, most of them from a specific vendor, and sometimes not easily available across OS. Ogg are the only open-source formats for multimedia files, and therefore suitable for implementation on every OS without vendor lock-in. But of course, Apple doesn't want people to move away from their proprietary Quicktime player which is currently installed on a majority of computer. Even if Quicktime is probably better than Theora in term of image quality, if it wasn't needed anymore for most video, their installed base would drop (remember, they tried to push Safari on Windows by including it by default in the Quicktime updater). [[User:Ksempac|Ksempac]] ([[User talk:Ksempac|talk]]) 09:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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The section entitled "Motivation" reads as original research (or opinion) and offers only one reference, that being to a demo of the Ogg format being referenced in a <video> element. I submit it really needs help or removal.

[[User:Alphaman|Alphaman]] ([[User talk:Alphaman|talk]]) 00:44, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== Ogg hosting website ==

With only Dailymotion listed, the list seems to forget about a few sites:

such as, the internet archive.

example: [http://www.archive.org/details/Abandonedhorrorcolor]

When it's opened in Firefox (version 3.6), I get the following text under the preview and embed this:

<blockquote>

Your browser supports the new <video> tag!

Would you like to try the new <video> tag?

</blockquote>

There must be other sites as well experimenting with the video tag?

Most will work with a fall back of course but anyway, support is support.

Or should we have a special section where it says: sites experimenting with HTML5 video tag?

<br />--[[User:Thelennonorth|Thelennonorth]] ([[User talk:Thelennonorth|talk]]) 13:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

==Merge==

The format war of HTML5 is a heated debate. No surprise the neutrality of this article is disputed when it is only about Ogg formats. I think we should merge this article and "HTML5 video" into "HTML5 multimedia" (a discussion of video without audio would be incomplete anyway, so call it multimedia and cover audio too). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/129.241.30.66|129.241.30.66]] ([[User talk:129.241.30.66|talk]]) 01:10, 21 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I agree, furthermore, I think the whole standard/concept of HTML5 should be merged into just one 'HTML5' value. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.55.122.94|2.55.122.94]] ([[User talk:2.55.122.94|talk]]) 16:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:In 2018 this certainly seems more of a historical footnote than deserving of it's own entire article. [[Special:Contributions/24.69.102.125|24.69.102.125]] ([[User talk:24.69.102.125|talk]]) 06:46, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

:I agree as well. I believe the contents of this page would be better suited in either the [[Ogg]] or [[HTML5 video]] article. [[User:RampantLeaf|RampantLeaf]] ([[User talk:RampantLeaf|talk]]) 01:38, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

:With both Chrome and Firefox planning to remove Theora playback from their browsers, it is even more historical so should be put in perspective somewhere as a failed proposal. [[User:Ponyguy|Ponyguy]] ([[User talk:Ponyguy|talk]]) 15:50, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

== Adoption section ==

The adoption section is about 9 years out of date and doesn't reflect the current state of HTML5/Ogg video. [[User:RampantLeaf|RampantLeaf]] ([[User talk:RampantLeaf|talk]]) 01:35, 14 July 2019 (UTC)