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Anyone should make a map for Mosul city center and its surroundings. Can anyone make that? Like [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Rif_Aleppo2.svg this]. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 12:59, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 
== Where is Baghdad ==
 
Can someone make the red point of Baghdad appear again ?
 
:Yeah, you're right. Someone has removed Baghdad from the module. I request the editors to please put it back. [[Special:Contributions/117.207.149.0|117.207.149.0]] ([[User talk:117.207.149.0|talk]]) 02:41, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 
::It has been restored now. [[Special:Contributions/117.214.244.186|117.214.244.186]] ([[User talk:117.214.244.186|talk]]) 05:22, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 
== New color? ==
 
In the north and to the east of Mosul - a dark green. There's no entry in the legend, could someone clarify and put one in or remove it if it's not supposed to be there? I'm guessing it's meant to be Turkish forces, given the same color being used on the Syria map a while ago. [[User:Ansh666|ansh]][[User talk:Ansh666|<span style="font-size:80%">''666''</span>]] 01:10, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:It's the Turkish bases in Northern Iraq. I think it should be added because those bases are "illegal" according the UN laws... But Idk how to add the Turkish bases on the legend. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 11:56, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:: Are there reliable sources that confirm the existence of these bases and the control of the bases by the Turkish military? Are there reliable sources confirming that the Turkish army has a base at Bashiqa? [[User:Schluppo|Schluppo]] ([[User talk:Schluppo|talk]]) 14:45, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 
::: Sure there are several Turkish sources.
 
::: [http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/271020161 Bashiqa]<br>
::: [http://www.gazetevatan.com/bamerni-ye-intikal-ettiler-894588-gundem/ Bamerni]<br>
::: [http://www.internethaber.com/iste-turkiyenin-kuzey-iraktaki-kampi-1492935h.htm Kanimasi]<br>[[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 17:16, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:::: Thanks. It appears that adding a new color for Turkish bases is justified. The legend should probably be changed accordingly, using the same dark green color that is used in the map. [[User:Schluppo|Schluppo]] ([[User talk:Schluppo|talk]]) 21:28, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
:::::Great, thanks for the clarification. I've added it into the legend; not sure if the colors are the same, but it's close enough. [[User:Ansh666|ansh]][[User talk:Ansh666|<span style="font-size:80%">''666''</span>]] 20:48, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 
== Map of Mosul ==
 
Hello, as a frequent viewer of this template I would like to suggest adding to it the map of Mosul (like Aleppo in Syrian template). Template would be much more informative as battle progresses in the city itself. This is of course beyond my capabilities (as I have no idea how to edit template), but at least I can whine and make some requests. :-) [[Special:Contributions/77.254.156.147|77.254.156.147]] ([[User talk:77.254.156.147|talk]]) 09:28, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 
I doubt this is nessescary. The situation in Syria is very different with truces and battles that have lasted almost 6 years. Mosul will hardly last more than a couple weeks or a month. [[User:Mozad655|Mozad655]] ([[User talk:Mozad655|talk]]) 12:40, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
:Well, we did it during the [[Libyan Civil War (2011)|first Libyan Civil War]] for certain battles (Misratah, Tripoli, [[:File:2011_Battle_of_Sirte.svg|Sirte]], Bani Walid, maybe more), though most of them have been deleted because there is little value in a frontline map which is all one color {{smiley}}. [[User:Ansh666|ansh]][[User talk:Ansh666|<span style="font-size:80%">''666''</span>]] 20:54, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 
== Can someone correct the links of various places in the module ==
 
Someone has added a hashtag "#" in front of link names of various settlements. In other cases, they have just named the links to "#no". The links are for directing a user to the article by that name. When the hashtag is added before any name, it just directs the user back to the template. And if you add "no" without the hashtag it will instead direct you to the article of [[no]], with the hashtag it will just direct you back to the template. In my search, I think I have identified 48 such cases with this problem. According to Wikipedia "#" is used for sections of an article. Using them shows the whole link of the template when clicking on/touching a settlement along with the "#" and the name of the settlement next to the "#" instead of just that settlement's name. And opening it will direct you back to the template. I request the users to please correct it as they are creating a problem. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/117.241.117.193|117.241.117.193]] ([[User talk:117.241.117.193|talk]]) 10:55, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 
{{u|Ermanarich}} {{u|Beshogur}} {{u|Ahmedo Semsurî}} {{u|Schluppo}} Can you fix this problem. I have detailed it in above post. [[Special:Contributions/117.214.244.186|117.214.244.186]] ([[User talk:117.214.244.186|talk]]) 05:27, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 
:Thank you for your remarks. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Iraqi_insurgency_detailed_map&diff=748231443&oldid=748223879 I have made the corrections]. I have removed the links that ''start'' with a # because they are fake links. The problem is worse than you think. Many of the ''remaining'' links do ''not'' lead to a valid article about the town in question. For example, link = "Albu Judai" is not a valid link because there is not article with the name "Albu Judai". So someone would have to go thru all the links and verify if they really lead to a valid Wikipedia article. If they don't then they need to be removed by deleting: link = "town name" part of the code. Below i give a brief tutorial on the link parameter in the code.
{{___location map+ |Syria |float=right |width=340 |caption=. |places=
{{___location map~ |Syria |lat=33.017 |long=36.128 |mark=Location dot lime.svg |marksize=10 |label=[[Inkhil#civilwar|Inkhil]] |link=Inkhil#civilwar |label_size=100 |position=bottom}}
{{___location map~ |Syria |lat=33.9 |long=37.15 |mark=Arrow northeast.svg |marksize=65 |label=[[#no|"link=" parameter allows clicking on dot to take you to town article]] |link=#no |label_size=0 |position=top}}
{{___location map~ |Syria |lat=33.7 |long=36.8 |mark=Location dot lightgrey.svg |marksize=1 |label=[[Inkhil#civilwar|...,&nbsp;link&nbsp;=&nbsp;"Inkhil#civilwar",...]] |link=Inkhil#civilwar |label_size=100 |position=right}}
{{___location map~ |Syria |lat=35.4 |long=40.1 |mark=Serbian Wikipedia, article "Википедија".png |marksize=200 |label=[[Inkhil#civilwar|Article on Inkhil, civil war section]] |link=Inkhil#civilwar |label_size=0 |position=right}}
}}
:Every element on the map should be verifiable. Information on towns (description of control & sources) can be found by ''clicking'' on the town dot on the map. Notice the caption of the map which says: "Hold cursor over ___location to display name; click to go to sources &/or status description (if available, the cursor will show as [[File:Pointing hand cursor vector.svg|25px]]; if not, it will show as [[File:Cursor.svg|14px]])."
 
:Notice the “link=” parameter in the map code. This is supposed to link to the part in the Wikipedia article that contains the source and talks about the events in the town. So for example, if you click on the dot of the town "Inkhil" on the map, it will take you to the part of the Wikipedia article on the town "Inkhil" that has the description of war events (& sources): link = "[[Inkhil#civilwar]]" Here the first part ''before'' the # is the name of the article (Inkhil). the second part ''after'' the # is the name of the section (civilwar).
 
:For this to work, there needs to be a section by this same name in the article or you need to put a wikilink anchor: [[WP:ANCHOR|<nowiki>{{anchor|section}}</nowiki>]] that will act as a section header (in this case <nowiki>{{anchor|civilwar}}</nowiki>). By the way, sources &/or status description can also be found in "battle/offensive/etc..." articles and not just in towns' articles... A quick look at the map's code will tell you where each town dot will link. [[User:Tradedia|<span style="color:#ffffff;background:black;">Tradedia</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tradedia|talk]]</sup> 05:03, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 
== Hammam al-Alil ==
 
Can someone please change Hammam al-Alil from black to red. http://www.heute.de/irakische-regierungstruppen-ruecken-in-mossul-vor-45838510.html
: Done. [[User:Schluppo|Schluppo]] ([[User talk:Schluppo|talk]]) 21:31, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 
==Bashiqa still contested acc to many sources==
 
Bashiqa is presented under Peshmerga control in map. Although [http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/07112016 Rudaw] and [http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2016/11/07/Peshmerga-forces-claim-full-control-over-Bashiqa-.html Al-Arabiya] state they have captured it. However, [http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37894809 BBC], [http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/battle-mosul-peshmerga-push-isil-held-bashiqa-161107151213902.html Al-Jazeera] and [http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-08/kurdish-fighters-storm-islamic-state-town-near-mosul/8003866 ABC Online] say they only stormed it and control parts of it. The reports of complete capture might have been premature, Al Jazeera does state Peshmerga controls most of Bashiqa. These sources are more recent than Rudaw and Al-Arabiya. Only BBC is of earlier time than Al-Arabiya whose report seems to based on Peshmerga claim which it details in its article. Many other sources too only say Peshmerga has entered Bashiqa and controls parts of Bashiqa. I think it is better to show it as contested for the time being until all reliable news sources state they have captured it. [[Special:Contributions/61.1.56.20|61.1.56.20]] ([[User talk:61.1.56.20|talk]]) 06:52, 8 November 2016 (UTC).
 
Nevermind, seems to have been captured by Peshmerga now [http://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2016/11/10/daesh-tunnels-discovered-in-liberated-bashiqa]. [[Special:Contributions/117.207.150.229|117.207.150.229]] ([[User talk:117.207.150.229|talk]]) 19:59, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 
There seemed to be some reports a few days ago Nimrud was under ISIL control. But Nimrud too has now been captured by Iraqi forces [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/13/iraqi-forces-retake-ancient-city-of-nimrud/ Iraqi forces retake historical town of Nimrud]. This problem is solved as well. [[Special:Contributions/59.89.47.63|59.89.47.63]] ([[User talk:59.89.47.63|talk]]) 18:37, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 
== [[K-3]] ==
This link, buried somewhere in [[Template:Iraqi insurgency detailed map]], points to a DAB page; on which I can find no relevant entry. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 15:44, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 
== Iyadiyah/Av Gany ==
 
The small town Iyadiyah north of Tell Afar is shown as being held by Peshmerga. I currently have no source for that, but the town is definitely under IS control, as any other maps show it as under IS control. I know, we're not allowed to use these, so does anyone has a recent mentioning of the situation in Iyadiyah?--[[User:Ermanarich|Ermanarich]] ([[User talk:Ermanarich|talk]]) 19:58, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
: This has now been fixed. No matter, allies will soon retake the area. [[User:TheNavigatrr|TheNavigatrr]] ([[User talk:TheNavigatrr|talk]]) 21:38, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== MAP ==
 
https://imagopyrenaei.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/shingal-front-forces.png
: Very good map. Shame we cannot use it for control purposes. [[User:TheNavigatrr|TheNavigatrr]] ([[User talk:TheNavigatrr|talk]]) 21:39, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== Roads ==
 
Adding the major roads/highways might be a good idea
:See [[User talk:Tradedia#Iraq ___location map road overlay]] [[User:Tradedia|<span style="color:#ffffff;background:black;">Tradedia</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tradedia|talk]]</sup> 02:36, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
:: Someone should get this working for the individual map. It would be great to see it everywhere. [[User:TheNavigatrr|TheNavigatrr]] ([[User talk:TheNavigatrr|talk]]) 21:40, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== Garma is ISIS-held ==
 
Garma (northeast of Fallujah) is ISIS-held based on a [http://understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/PDF%20Euphrates%20River%20Valley%20Map%20v2_2.pdf report] from the reliable Institute for the Study of War: "...the sub-district Garma in eastern Anbar remains under ISIS control". It couldn't be any clearer than that. Garma should be changed from red to black.
: Not anymore, ISF and allies recaptured it. [[User:TheNavigatrr|TheNavigatrr]] ([[User talk:TheNavigatrr|talk]]) 21:42, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== Why Husaybah is red? ==
 
I really don't think, that Husaybah on the iraqi-syrian border is in the hands of the government... please put it back to black.
In some news, there are reports about some explosions due to the rain in a certain town called Husaybah al-Scharqiyah ("East-Husaybah" - not eastern Husaybah), but it is surely not Husaybah on the border and surely not in possession of government.
http://altaghier.tv/2015/10/29/الامطار-تفجر-35-بيتا-ملغما-وعشرات-العبوا
: This has now been fixed. [[User:TheNavigatrr|TheNavigatrr]] ([[User talk:TheNavigatrr|talk]]) 21:43, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== Fallujah Clashes done ==
 
The clashes in Fallujah city are done, and Daesh controls the city: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/is-the-islamic-state-losing-its-grip-on-fallujah/2016/02/20/c86adda2-7416-4cb8-9be5-4ec5d30d3882_story.html
 
Please change the city to black.
: Denied. Now Fallujah is government-held, so there's no need for fighting over it. [[User:TheNavigatrr|TheNavigatrr]] ([[User talk:TheNavigatrr|talk]]) 21:43, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== Kabisa ==
 
Kabisa (or Kubaysah) near Hit in Al Anbar is controlled by IS and is not encircled.
: This is actually not true. It is controlled by ISIS. Would you care to provide a source? [[User:TheNavigatrr|TheNavigatrr]] ([[User talk:TheNavigatrr|talk]]) 21:41, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
:: It is not controlled by ISIS for over a year. This module is utter trash. Eg here is ISIS own video where they are targeting Iraqi military outpost at Kabisah plant https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status/819310076389445632 Akashat has been taken over by Jughraiyfa PMU back in October last year. Surrounding of Lake Thawra has been clared year ago. Euphrates basin up to Haditha is under Iraqi military control and not some here-and-there towns localted on Anbar main road under ISIS control. Hassan al-Maklaf and whole area around it is under Iraqi military control for 2 years now. ISIS in that province is hiding in mountains, not towns. Ridicolious [[User:EllsworthSK|EllsworthSK]] ([[User talk:EllsworthSK|talk]]) 16:46, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== Links for my edits ==
 
I've listed the articles I used for my edits here, because they were too long for the edit box. --[[User:Ahmedo Semsurî|Ahmedo Semsurî]] ([[User talk:Ahmedo Semsurî|talk]]) 19:44, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 
:Isunaydij & Zarluk[http://almasalah.com/ar/news/83919/%D8%AA%D9%81%D9%83%D9%8A%D9%83-%D8%B9%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A9-%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%82%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%81%D9%84-%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9-%D8%B6%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B7-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A8-%D8%A8%D8%B9%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A8%D8%A9]
:Tall Sharif[https://www.baghdad-times.net/2015/09/28/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B4%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D8%B9%D8%A8%D9%8A-%D8%A8%D9%82%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AD-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B3%D9%83%D8%B1/]
:Zindana[http://www.alsumaria.tv/news/183495/%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A9-%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%AA%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A9-%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%AA%D9%84-9-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%B4-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%86%D8%AF%D8%A7/ar]
:Umar Mandan[https://www.alghadpress.com/news/97500/%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%B4-%D9%8A%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%B7%D9%81-3-%D8%A3%D8%B4%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5-%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%82-%D8%B9%D8%AC%D9%84%D8%AA%D9%8A%D9%86-%D9%85%D9%86-%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%87-%D8%AA%D8%A8%D9%87-%D8%A8]
:Sari Tepe[https://www.alghadpress.com/news/100177/%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%A8-%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%AE%D9%84-%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B2%D9%84%D9%87-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A-%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%A9-%D8%AC%D9%86%D9%88%D8%A8-%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%83%D9%88%D9%83]
 
== YBŞ and PKK Controlled Areas==
Several areas shown on the map as controled by the Kurdistan Regional Government are actually under the control of the PKK and allied militias (Sinjar Resistance Units, ect). This groups hold the town of Sinjar and the surrounding area as well as an area near Qandil. They act in opposition to the KRG.[[User:XavierGreen|XavierGreen]] ([[User talk:XavierGreen|talk]]) 17:49, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
: This is true. However, we do not have an appropriate color for them, and we want to make the map simpler. Also, force for control are more spotty. [[User:TheNavigatrr|TheNavigatrr]] ([[User talk:TheNavigatrr|talk]]) 21:38, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
::So pick a color, orange for instance.[[User:XavierGreen|XavierGreen]] ([[User talk:XavierGreen|talk]]) 20:02, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
::: We need to keep in mind that there is also a combined Syrian-Iraqi map, and Syrian YPG and YBŞ should have a similar yellow color on it.
::: So it would be more logic to change the color of the KDP-KRG to a more yellow-greenish color.
::: Maybe we have to change Turkey allied KDP-KRG to Greenish Yellow, keep PUK-KRG to the present/ normal yellow and change YBS and YPG to a more orange-like yellow?
::: But with YBŞ allied more to the Iraqi federal goverment, it is strange to represent the same as Turkey allied KDP-KRG.--[[User:Niele~enwiki|Niele~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Niele~enwiki|talk]]) 13:55, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
:PKK doesn't control territory, they just have a presence. But I personally think YBS should have an orange collor. KDP some greenish, PUK and Gorran yellow. We must do immediately. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 09:49, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
:::Both KDP-, PUK Peshmergas and unaffiliated ones fight for Kurdistan Region, thus my opinion is that it would be wrong to differentiate between these. Also, bear in mind that the "border" between these two parties is very blurry - perhaps even impossible to find. KDP is present in Kirkuk city with PUK, while PUK has some Peshmergas in Sinjar with KDP. KDP control some towns in Kirkuk, for example [[Altun Kupri]], which has no PUK presence. So, we would just make the map more complicated. --[[User:Ahmedo Semsurî|Ahmedo Semsurî]] ([[User talk:Ahmedo Semsurî|talk]]) 19:54, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
:Concerning YBS, perhaps a solution could be to change the color for SDF in the Syrian map as well? --[[User:Ahmedo Semsurî|Ahmedo Semsurî]] ([[User talk:Ahmedo Semsurî|talk]]) 19:59, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 
== Desert border crossings ==
 
Are we now marking all military bases on border as "border crossing". From what I know border crossings are official crossings that are are overseen by some force as only official point of entry for civilians. Umm Jaris, Tal Sufouq, Tawsin, Tarifoa or Baktal are not border crossings. They are former Iraqi border guards bases that are now either occupied by Peshmerga, PMU or no one. [[User:EllsworthSK|EllsworthSK]] ([[User talk:EllsworthSK|talk]]) 19:11, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 
== Orange dots? ==
 
What are the orange dots in Ninevah Province supposed to represent? [[Special:Contributions/70.59.227.82|70.59.227.82]] ([[User talk:70.59.227.82|talk]]) 16:18, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
::: This is the [[Ezidixan]] autonomous region in West Sinjar administered by the [[Ezidixan People’s Council|Ezidixan People’s Council (EPC)]] and controlled by YBS and HPG units and was established with the help of Syrian YPG back in 2014.
:: It officially declared autonomy under Iraqi federal law this summer. It fought against Barzani (and Turkey-supported) Rojava Peshmerga in Sinune a year ago, preventing KRG from entering west-Sinjar.--[[User:Niele~enwiki|Niele~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Niele~enwiki|talk]]) 09:18, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 
== Desperate need to split KDP and PUK control colours. ==
 
The map in northern Iraq has become unmappable without seperating PUK and KDP control.
Without this the situation becomes un-understandable and misleading for people watching the map.<br>
 
I personally think:
* KDP should be a greenish yellow
* EPC (Sinjar Alliance, YBS,HPG,...) '''should be same yellow as Syrian SDF,YPG''' as they are supported and established by them.
* PUK needs to be an orangy yellow as they are at this moment closer to Iraqi government.
 
But without splitting KDP and PUK and merging YBS with SDF's colour, we will get completely stuck in trying to map the new situation.--[[User:Niele~enwiki|Niele~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Niele~enwiki|talk]]) 09:26, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 
== Kifri? ==
 
Is there a source that Kifri is now under Iraqi control? I reverted this change, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Iraqi_insurgency_detailed_map&diff=806363386&oldid=806358471 was reverted] by [[User:Beshogur]] without explanation. [[User:Rob984|Rob984]] ([[User talk:Rob984|talk]]) 14:58, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
:I added a source before. If you find Rudaw reporting that it's under Pesh control, then add. But you can't find any source. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 18:50, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
::I found [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Iraqi_insurgency_detailed_map&diff=805594301&oldid=805591424 the revision], and sorry but [https://twitter.com/Online_alhashd/status/919810172498907136 a random Twitter account with 500 followers] is not a source. Please see [[WP:RELIABLESOURCE]]. You changed this less then a week ago so it does not have consensus. I have again reverted this unsourced change. [[User:Rob984|Rob984]] ([[User talk:Rob984|talk]]) 14:22, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 
== Qandil ==
The [[Qandil mountains]] are marked on the map as under KRG control, but they are actually controlled by the PKK and PJAK and have been for many years. See [[https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-turkey-iraq-officers/turkey-not-in-direct-talks-for-return-of-intelligence-officers-from-iraq-minister-idUKKCN1BU25L]], [[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-4987948/Four-Turkish-soldiers-killed-northern-Iraq-army.html]][[User:XavierGreen|XavierGreen]] ([[User talk:XavierGreen|talk]]) 17:40, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 
== Desert villages changed without a source ==
 
why are desert villages in Al-Anbar governorate north of the euphrates river and desert villages west of Salaheddine governorate changed from ISIS controlled to Iraqi Government control,is there a reliable source for this change,because i am unaware of such an offensive occurring at this time.[[User:AlAboud83|Alhanuty]] ([[User talk:AlAboud83|talk]]) 17:48, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
:It was implied in a couple of other sources, including Twitter and a report cited in the main campaign article. The news source reported that ISIL only holds territory in Iraq's Anbar Province, between Rawa and the Syrian border, which means that ISIL no longer controls any territory at all in the Nineveh Governorate. [[User:LightandDark2000|'''''<span style="color:#C69214">Light</span><span style="color:#410064">and</span><span style="color:blue">Dark2000</span>''''']] ([[User talk:LightandDark2000#top|talk]]) 01:07, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 
== Ain Zalah Oil Field ==
 
The Ain Zalah Oil Field is currently depicted as being under Peshmerga control, along with a couple of neighboring villages. However, [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/05/world/middleeast/kurd-independence-iraq-turkey-iran-syria-maps-backfired.html?src=twr this report] implies that the Peshmerga has already withdrawn from that district entirely? So who currently holds the Ain Zalah District? IF someone wants, feel free to change that area to Iraqi Government control. You can use this source if you want. [[User:LightandDark2000|'''''<span style="color:#C69214">Light</span><span style="color:#410064">and</span><span style="color:blue">Dark2000</span>''''']] ([[User talk:LightandDark2000#top|talk]]) 01:15, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 
== Iraqi Government advance ==
 
can anyone mark the Iraqi Government and Iraqi Hashd advances in the desert of Salaheddine.[[User:AlAboud83|Alhanuty]] ([[User talk:AlAboud83|talk]]) 04:46, 25 November 2017 (UTC)