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:Notice the “link=” parameter in the map code. This is supposed to link to the part in the Wikipedia article that contains the source and talks about the events in the town. So for example, if you click on the dot of the town "Inkhil" on the map, it will take you to the part of the Wikipedia article on the town "Inkhil" that has the description of war events (& sources): link = "[[Inkhil#civilwar]]" Here the first part ''before'' the # is the name of the article (Inkhil). the second part ''after'' the # is the name of the section (civilwar).
 
:For this to work, there needs to be a section by this same name in the article or you need to put a wikilink anchor: [[WP:ANCHOR|<nowiki>{{anchor|section}}</nowiki>]] that will act as a section header (in this case <nowiki>{{anchor|civilwar}}</nowiki>). By the way, sources &/or status description can also be found in "battle/offensive/etc..." articles and not just in towns' articles... A quick look at the map's code will tell you where each town dot will link. [[User:Tradedia|<fontspan style="color:#ffffff;background:black;">Tradedia</fontspan>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tradedia|talk]]</sup> 05:03, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 
== Hammam al-Alil ==
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Adding the major roads/highways might be a good idea
:See [[User talk:Tradedia#Iraq ___location map road overlay]] [[User:Tradedia|<fontspan style="color:#ffffff;background:black;">Tradedia</fontspan>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tradedia|talk]]</sup> 02:36, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
:: Someone should get this working for the individual map. It would be great to see it everywhere. [[User:TheNavigatrr|TheNavigatrr]] ([[User talk:TheNavigatrr|talk]]) 21:40, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 
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Please change the city to black.
: Denied. Now Fallujah is government-held, so there's no need for fighting over it. [[User:TheNavigatrr|TheNavigatrr]] ([[User talk:TheNavigatrr|talk]]) 21:43, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== Kabisa ==
 
Kabisa (or Kubaysah) near Hit in Al Anbar is controlled by IS and is not encircled.
: This is actually not true. It is controlled by ISIS. Would you care to provide a source? [[User:TheNavigatrr|TheNavigatrr]] ([[User talk:TheNavigatrr|talk]]) 21:41, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
:: It is not controlled by ISIS for over a year. This module is utter trash. Eg here is ISIS own video where they are targeting Iraqi military outpost at Kabisah plant https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status/819310076389445632 Akashat has been taken over by Jughraiyfa PMU back in October last year. Surrounding of Lake Thawra has been clared year ago. Euphrates basin up to Haditha is under Iraqi military control and not some here-and-there towns localted on Anbar main road under ISIS control. Hassan al-Maklaf and whole area around it is under Iraqi military control for 2 years now. ISIS in that province is hiding in mountains, not towns. Ridicolious [[User:EllsworthSK|EllsworthSK]] ([[User talk:EllsworthSK|talk]]) 16:46, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== Links for my edits ==
 
I've listed the articles I used for my edits here, because they were too long for the edit box. --[[User:Ahmedo Semsurî|Ahmedo Semsurî]] ([[User talk:Ahmedo Semsurî|talk]]) 19:44, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 
:Isunaydij & Zarluk[http://almasalah.com/ar/news/83919/%D8%AA%D9%81%D9%83%D9%8A%D9%83-%D8%B9%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A9-%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%82%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%81%D9%84-%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9-%D8%B6%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B7-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A8-%D8%A8%D8%B9%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A8%D8%A9]
:Tall Sharif[https://www.baghdad-times.net/2015/09/28/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B4%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D8%B9%D8%A8%D9%8A-%D8%A8%D9%82%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AD-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B3%D9%83%D8%B1/]
:Zindana[http://www.alsumaria.tv/news/183495/%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A9-%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%AA%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A9-%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%AA%D9%84-9-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%B4-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%86%D8%AF%D8%A7/ar]
:Umar Mandan[https://www.alghadpress.com/news/97500/%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%B4-%D9%8A%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%B7%D9%81-3-%D8%A3%D8%B4%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5-%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%82-%D8%B9%D8%AC%D9%84%D8%AA%D9%8A%D9%86-%D9%85%D9%86-%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%87-%D8%AA%D8%A8%D9%87-%D8%A8]
:Sari Tepe[https://www.alghadpress.com/news/100177/%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%A8-%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%AE%D9%84-%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B2%D9%84%D9%87-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A-%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%A9-%D8%AC%D9%86%D9%88%D8%A8-%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%83%D9%88%D9%83]
 
== YBŞ and PKK Controlled Areas==
Several areas shown on the map as controled by the Kurdistan Regional Government are actually under the control of the PKK and allied militias (Sinjar Resistance Units, ect). This groups hold the town of Sinjar and the surrounding area as well as an area near Qandil. They act in opposition to the KRG.[[User:XavierGreen|XavierGreen]] ([[User talk:XavierGreen|talk]]) 17:49, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
: This is true. However, we do not have an appropriate color for them, and we want to make the map simpler. Also, force for control are more spotty. [[User:TheNavigatrr|TheNavigatrr]] ([[User talk:TheNavigatrr|talk]]) 21:38, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
::So pick a color, orange for instance.[[User:XavierGreen|XavierGreen]] ([[User talk:XavierGreen|talk]]) 20:02, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
::: We need to keep in mind that there is also a combined Syrian-Iraqi map, and Syrian YPG and YBŞ should have a similar yellow color on it.
::: So it would be more logic to change the color of the KDP-KRG to a more yellow-greenish color.
::: Maybe we have to change Turkey allied KDP-KRG to Greenish Yellow, keep PUK-KRG to the present/ normal yellow and change YBS and YPG to a more orange-like yellow?
::: But with YBŞ allied more to the Iraqi federal goverment, it is strange to represent the same as Turkey allied KDP-KRG.--[[User:Niele~enwiki|Niele~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Niele~enwiki|talk]]) 13:55, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
:PKK doesn't control territory, they just have a presence. But I personally think YBS should have an orange collor. KDP some greenish, PUK and Gorran yellow. We must do immediately. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 09:49, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
:::Both KDP-, PUK Peshmergas and unaffiliated ones fight for Kurdistan Region, thus my opinion is that it would be wrong to differentiate between these. Also, bear in mind that the "border" between these two parties is very blurry - perhaps even impossible to find. KDP is present in Kirkuk city with PUK, while PUK has some Peshmergas in Sinjar with KDP. KDP control some towns in Kirkuk, for example [[Altun Kupri]], which has no PUK presence. So, we would just make the map more complicated. --[[User:Ahmedo Semsurî|Ahmedo Semsurî]] ([[User talk:Ahmedo Semsurî|talk]]) 19:54, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
:Concerning YBS, perhaps a solution could be to change the color for SDF in the Syrian map as well? --[[User:Ahmedo Semsurî|Ahmedo Semsurî]] ([[User talk:Ahmedo Semsurî|talk]]) 19:59, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 
== Desert border crossings ==
 
Are we now marking all military bases on border as "border crossing". From what I know border crossings are official crossings that are are overseen by some force as only official point of entry for civilians. Umm Jaris, Tal Sufouq, Tawsin, Tarifoa or Baktal are not border crossings. They are former Iraqi border guards bases that are now either occupied by Peshmerga, PMU or no one. [[User:EllsworthSK|EllsworthSK]] ([[User talk:EllsworthSK|talk]]) 19:11, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 
== Orange dots? ==
 
What are the orange dots in Ninevah Province supposed to represent? [[Special:Contributions/70.59.227.82|70.59.227.82]] ([[User talk:70.59.227.82|talk]]) 16:18, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
::: This is the [[Ezidixan]] autonomous region in West Sinjar administered by the [[Ezidixan People’s Council|Ezidixan People’s Council (EPC)]] and controlled by YBS and HPG units and was established with the help of Syrian YPG back in 2014.
:: It officially declared autonomy under Iraqi federal law this summer. It fought against Barzani (and Turkey-supported) Rojava Peshmerga in Sinune a year ago, preventing KRG from entering west-Sinjar.--[[User:Niele~enwiki|Niele~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Niele~enwiki|talk]]) 09:18, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 
== Desperate need to split KDP and PUK control colours. ==
 
The map in northern Iraq has become unmappable without seperating PUK and KDP control.
Without this the situation becomes un-understandable and misleading for people watching the map.<br>
 
I personally think:
* KDP should be a greenish yellow
* EPC (Sinjar Alliance, YBS,HPG,...) '''should be same yellow as Syrian SDF,YPG''' as they are supported and established by them.
* PUK needs to be an orangy yellow as they are at this moment closer to Iraqi government.
 
But without splitting KDP and PUK and merging YBS with SDF's colour, we will get completely stuck in trying to map the new situation.--[[User:Niele~enwiki|Niele~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Niele~enwiki|talk]]) 09:26, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 
== Kifri? ==
 
Is there a source that Kifri is now under Iraqi control? I reverted this change, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Iraqi_insurgency_detailed_map&diff=806363386&oldid=806358471 was reverted] by [[User:Beshogur]] without explanation. [[User:Rob984|Rob984]] ([[User talk:Rob984|talk]]) 14:58, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
:I added a source before. If you find Rudaw reporting that it's under Pesh control, then add. But you can't find any source. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 18:50, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
::I found [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Iraqi_insurgency_detailed_map&diff=805594301&oldid=805591424 the revision], and sorry but [https://twitter.com/Online_alhashd/status/919810172498907136 a random Twitter account with 500 followers] is not a source. Please see [[WP:RELIABLESOURCE]]. You changed this less then a week ago so it does not have consensus. I have again reverted this unsourced change. [[User:Rob984|Rob984]] ([[User talk:Rob984|talk]]) 14:22, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 
== Qandil ==
The [[Qandil mountains]] are marked on the map as under KRG control, but they are actually controlled by the PKK and PJAK and have been for many years. See [[https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-turkey-iraq-officers/turkey-not-in-direct-talks-for-return-of-intelligence-officers-from-iraq-minister-idUKKCN1BU25L]], [[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-4987948/Four-Turkish-soldiers-killed-northern-Iraq-army.html]][[User:XavierGreen|XavierGreen]] ([[User talk:XavierGreen|talk]]) 17:40, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 
== Desert villages changed without a source ==
 
why are desert villages in Al-Anbar governorate north of the euphrates river and desert villages west of Salaheddine governorate changed from ISIS controlled to Iraqi Government control,is there a reliable source for this change,because i am unaware of such an offensive occurring at this time.[[User:AlAboud83|Alhanuty]] ([[User talk:AlAboud83|talk]]) 17:48, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
:It was implied in a couple of other sources, including Twitter and a report cited in the main campaign article. The news source reported that ISIL only holds territory in Iraq's Anbar Province, between Rawa and the Syrian border, which means that ISIL no longer controls any territory at all in the Nineveh Governorate. [[User:LightandDark2000|'''''<span style="color:#C69214">Light</span><span style="color:#410064">and</span><span style="color:blue">Dark2000</span>''''']] ([[User talk:LightandDark2000#top|talk]]) 01:07, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 
== Ain Zalah Oil Field ==
 
The Ain Zalah Oil Field is currently depicted as being under Peshmerga control, along with a couple of neighboring villages. However, [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/05/world/middleeast/kurd-independence-iraq-turkey-iran-syria-maps-backfired.html?src=twr this report] implies that the Peshmerga has already withdrawn from that district entirely? So who currently holds the Ain Zalah District? IF someone wants, feel free to change that area to Iraqi Government control. You can use this source if you want. [[User:LightandDark2000|'''''<span style="color:#C69214">Light</span><span style="color:#410064">and</span><span style="color:blue">Dark2000</span>''''']] ([[User talk:LightandDark2000#top|talk]]) 01:15, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 
== Iraqi Government advance ==
 
can anyone mark the Iraqi Government and Iraqi Hashd advances in the desert of Salaheddine.[[User:AlAboud83|Alhanuty]] ([[User talk:AlAboud83|talk]]) 04:46, 25 November 2017 (UTC)