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==Suggestions==

== Copyvio/close paraphrasing check ''before'' publishing ==

I saw you asked for this interesting page to be proofread on the help desk, so:

*In the spellchecking section, there is a live spellchecker; (it spellchecks the recent changes) [[User:Lupin/Anti-vandal tool]] (which you have further down the page)

*You should link the individual entries in the section "Searching Wikipedia from the internet"

*I think the signatures section should be expanded to be more understandable (like tell them to tick raw signature and link to [[WP:SIG]])

I understand this page is still under construction but it already looks really helpful, not just for new users. Good job. [[User:James086|James086]]^{[[User talk:James086|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/James086|<font color="green">Contribs</font>]]} 13:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

:You may want to consider whether the 'scripts' link should go to [[Wikipedia:Scripts]] or [[Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts]] (the link you have currently is mostly about IRC scripts; it's quite possible that it's user scripts that you meant). --[[User:ais523|ais523]] 13:28, 12 December 2006 ([[User:ais523|U]][[User talk:ais523|T]][[Special:Contributions/Ais523|C]])

:: Done. '''''[[User:The Transhumanist|<font color="#808">Th<font color="#00F">e Tr<font color="#490">ans<font color="#D92">hu<font color="#D40">man<font color="#B00">ist</font> &nbsp;&nbsp;]]'''''

Current arrangement does not warn the user of the possibility of copyright infringement or Wikipedia standards of close paraphrasing problems until after the fact, which is embarrassing at best, and at worst has cost us a lot of potentially good contributors who are not used to the over the top requirements on Wikipedia. We need a way to specify a source and check if an edit is compliant before saving. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter Southwood]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|^(talk)]]: 11:10, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

: I saw this page linked on the help desk. I've proofed it (a couple of spelling errors and a bit of punctuation) as requested. I understand it's not finished yet; please leave a note on my talk page if you'd like me to proof it again when you're done. It's very understandable, and looks as if it's going to be really helpful - good job! [[User:Squeezeweasel|Squeezeweasel]] 15:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

: {{ping|Pbsouthwood}} &nbsp; In perplexity.ai, type this: "free plagiarism checker that catches paraphrasing as well". When I typed that in, it listed several. Are those what you had in mind? <span class="nowrap">&nbsp;&nbsp; &mdash; ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|The&nbsp;Transhumanist]]''&nbsp;&nbsp; </span> 16:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

:: Thanks for the help. And yes, I will gladly take you up on your offer of further assistance! '''''[[User:The Transhumanist|<font color="#808">Th<font color="#00F">e Tr<font color="#490">ans<font color="#D92">hu<font color="#D40">man<font color="#B00">ist</font> &nbsp;&nbsp;]]'''''

::Not really, those require that you manually upload your new content to an outside agent for the check. I would like it to be done automatically through the Wikipedia editor by clicking on an option from within the editor, ideally the option of setting it as a default, but I would guess that would be computationally heavy. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter Southwood]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|^(talk)]]: 07:12, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

::Additional useful option would be to specify source(s), which should reduce computational load by orders of magnitude. &middot; &middot; &middot; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter Southwood]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|^(talk)]]: 07:30, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

== Green redirects ==

Transhumanist, I don't mean to pile on, but I do have a suggestion. Could we perhaps get one of the image/copyright "guru's to submit something that's easy to understand in the virtual classroom? I'm afraid I don't really get it - lot's of images seem to be unacceptable, I can't figure out how to register and image at commons. Thanks for considering it,[[User:NinaEliza|NinaEliza]] 01:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

: Such a lesson would mostly point out the problems with the Image department(s) of Wikipedia. It would be better to go in and fix those problems directly than merely write about them. The template used to indicate copyright status of an image creates a lot of confusion, for instance. '''''[[User:The Transhumanist|<font color="#808">Th<font color="#00F">e Tr<font color="#490">ans<font color="#D92">hu<font color="#D40">man<font color="#B00">ist</font> &nbsp;&nbsp;]]'''''

Green redirects are helpful, yes, but with [[User:Anomie/linkclassifier]] you also get red borders on non-free images, yellow shading on links to disambiguation pages, and pink colouring of links to pages tagged for deletion. I recommend it! -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 17:52, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

:Might want to add [http://www.math.ucla.edu/~aoleg/wp/rfa/edit_summary.html Mathbot] to the edit counting section. Cheers [[User talk:Lethaniol|Lethaniol]] 17:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

: {{ping|John of Reading}} &nbsp; {{done}} <span class="nowrap">&nbsp;&nbsp; &mdash; ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|The&nbsp;Transhumanist]]''&nbsp;&nbsp; </span> 16:24, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

::Thanks! '''''[[User:The Transhumanist|<font color="#808">Th<font color="#00F">e Tr<font color="#490">ans<font color="#D92">hu<font color="#D40">man<font color="#B00">ist</font> &nbsp;&nbsp;]]'''''07:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

All around it is a pretty cool page. Is this intended to be moved to the Wikipedia: namespace? If that is the case there should be no recommendation to update ones monobook to the same as you have—though I do not doubt the integrity of those tools, and it seems like you keep this stuff in your subpages anyway. I also think it could use some more descriptive links, even if the link seems obvious. For example, under [[User:The Transhumanist/Tools#Bots|Tools#Bots]], change the text "Types" to "Types of bots" (as the link suggests).

And a question: you are working on providing brief descriptions of each tool you have listed? I think it's pretty impressive and commendable that you would undertake a task such as this (along with the other pages in the set). − [[User:Twas Now|'''Twas ''Now''''']] <small>( [[User talk:Twas Now|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Twas Now|contribs]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Twas Now|e-mail]] )</small> 08:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

: Nope, it's not going to be moved to the Wikipedia namespace. But anyone can cut and paste and adapt it for use there if they want. The current version is a list of the tools I use, and serves as a menu as well (for when I'm really tired). I expanded the bot links, and a couple others. Thanks for the tip!

: Descriptions? Good idea. I'll add them in where the nature of the item is not obvious. And thanks for the encouragement! '''''[[User:The Transhumanist|<font color="#808">Th<font color="#00F">e Tr<font color="#490">ans<font color="#D92">hu<font color="#D40">man<font color="#B00">ist</font> &nbsp;&nbsp;]]'''''00:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)