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:::Nageh: Yes, the 2600 Great Pyramid value is too fringe-y, so it should be omitted. The Rhind Papyrus value from 2000 BC is the first valid one. --[[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 15:44, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
::::Updated. [[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]]) 16:19, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
If I might comment, the 1e+012 is a very odd, jarring and probably incorrect form to use for the axis. It would make much more sense to use 10<sup>12</sup> as suggested, or 10^12 if it needs to be in one line for some reason. --[[User:Martin23230|'''<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; font-size:medium;">23230
:Looking again, a few more suggestions. I think it would be a good idea to mark with a vertival like exactly where the breaks in the axis are, looking at it there is a jump between -250 and 480 that has no clue as to where it is. I would also suggest using BCE or just negative notation instead of BC, but that's more a minor thing. Finally, have the x-axis continue past -2000 but have the line fade off (or dashed) to show we don't have any knowledge before then. Starting it as it does just implies that is the first time anyone ever created it, which may not be true. --[[User:Martin23230|'''<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; font-size:medium;">23230
::Agree that 10<sup>12</sup> is more attractive & understandable than 1e+012. --[[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 18:54, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
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:::Concur that the issues (other than exponent) are rather minor and can be set aside. Regarding the exponent: The use of caret 10^2 is not common enough, and would confuse lots of readers. To get a superscript: could you create two separate strings "10" and "12" and make the font smaller for the "12" string? Or would the relative positioning of the two strings be too risky because it might display differently in different rendering engines? --[[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 19:07, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
::::There are manual ways around it, which means editing the SVG file, but the horrible thing is that Firefox has an outstanding bug for 7(!) years now that it prevents it from rendering superscript characters. Just plain horrible! I'll see what I can do. [[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]]) 19:12, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
:::::It might just be a British thing, but I'm pretty sure most people would know what 10^2 meant and I've never seen anyone write or even type 1e+2 (unless it's entered into a calculator), especially as that should be a capital E. And I do now get what you mean with the scale on the x-axis, it's just the non-uniform scale that seems could be clearer. Extending the graph I suppose would be problematic, I would just suggest moving the ends of the axes off slightly so the line doesn't touch the y-axis. Also, I don't know what you're using to edit the graph but Inkscape has a functional superscript function. Finally on BC/BCE I suppose should just defer to the article which uses BC, not what I would do for a scientific graph but it makes sense for the article. --[[User:Martin23230|'''<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; font-size:medium;">23230
::::::No, everything is scripted with gnuplot so you don't have to fiddle around manually adjusting positions. It turns out that you need to configure an "enhanced" output mode to support superscripts in gnuplot. So it means it does work after all, and I have just updated the image accordingly. Also, I have changed BC to BCE as suggested (thank God, we don't have such a distinction in my language). [[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]]) 19:40, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
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