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==County Flags of England==
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File:Great Seal of Maryland reverse.png|Wikimedia version: actually not PD as it comes from the state website [http://www.msa.md.gov/msa/mdmanual/01glance/html/symbols/reverse.html here]
File:Maryland-StateSeal.svg|Poor SVG version from the feds: PD but low-res and has lots of color faults (e.g. back of mantling should be red, not blue)
File:GreatObverse of the Seal of Maryland obverse.pngsvg|Obverse, also from Maryland state website (I don't think we have a truly PD version of this)
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'''Article(s):''' [[Kolkata Knight Riders]]
'''Request:''' SVG.--([[User talk:Kkm010|<fontspan style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→</fontspan>]]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;[[User:Kkm010|Kkm010]]&nbsp;'''</span>[[Special:Contributions/Kkm010|<fontspan style="font-variant:small-caps">←track</fontspan>]]) 14:11, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Please provide a vector source (such as a PDF) that we can convert. [[User:NikNaks|<b><fontspan colorstyle="color:#1b37e5;">Nik</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#328824;">Naks</fontspan></b>]] <sub>[[User talk:NikNaks|talk]] - [[commons:User:NikNaks/Gallery|gallery]]</sub> 11:29, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
::I don't know how to find PDF.--([[User talk:Kkm010|<fontspan style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→</fontspan>]]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;[[User:Kkm010|Kkm010]]&nbsp;'''</span>[[Special:Contributions/Kkm010|<fontspan style="font-variant:small-caps">←track</fontspan>]]) 04:59, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
:::{{Done}} anyways. File: [[:File:Kolkata Knight Riders Logo.svg]]. – [[User:Connormah|Connormah]] ([[User talk:Connormah|talk]]) 06:07, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
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== illustration for ‘Double Irish With a Dutch Sandwich’ ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Double Irish arrangement]]
'''Request:''' the NYT has a nice illustration for this [http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/28/business/Double-Irish-With-A-Dutch-Sandwich.html], it would help the article if someone could take a look
at that page and make a compareable illustration for the wiki page. [[User:A1000|A1000]] ([[User talk:A1000|talk]]) 09:07, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
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==Pi graph: convert from PNG to SVG==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Chronology of computation of π]], [[pi]]
[[File:Rekordaj_alproksimighoj_al_pi.png|thumb]]
'''Request:''' Picture [[:File:Rekordaj_alproksimighoj_al_pi.png]] is used in this article. We want to also use that pic in the [[pi]] article, as part of an effort to make [[pi]] achieve Featured Article status. The old PNG picture needs to be replaced with a new SVG vector diagram, with the individual lines as distinct vectors, so we can change the text to English; and also tweak the graph coordinates. So: can someone redraw [[:File:Rekordaj_alproksimighoj_al_pi.png]] as an SVG vector diagram? If you can just get the basic drawing converted (axes, lines, numbers/text on vertical and horiz axes; and the main graph) done, then I can take it from there and make some minor adjustments, I think. [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 19:02, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 
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{{I take|1=[[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]])}} – I can do that. I just saw your post at [[Talk:Pi]] now, so I couldn't respond earlier. I will work on it tomorrow. [[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]]) 21:20, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
::That would be great! --[[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 21:45, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
:::There is a jag in the time line, presumably to identify gaps in the line. That's fine, but there's a concurrent jag in the graph. One might argue that the position of the graph is the distance above the x-axis, so a jag in the graph is warranted, but I disagree. The graph as depicted appears to says there were two drops, but that isn't the case. --[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#002868;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">SPhilbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span>]] 22:03, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
:::: I agree that the zig-zag in the graph is misleading. Either the graph should be a straight line in those (two) places; or maybe a dashed line in those two places. --[[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 22:28, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
:::::Right. I will turn it into a straight line. [[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]]) 23:00, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
For reference, here are some suggestions I made on the pi Talk page:
 
::*Colors: a simple black-on-white would be best. WP sort of has a policy to avoid relying on colors, due to color-blind readers.
::*Axes: The vertical axis should be "Number of digits" and the horiz axis "Year".
::*Scale: the vertical axis has to be logarithmic. Horiz axis should probably keep the "breaks" so the graph is not flat for centuries.
::*Year axis: the labels on the vertical axis are too hard to read (to get the number of zeros); suggest use scientific notation e.g. 10<sup>12</sup> etc
::*Font: use Arial or Helvetica.
::*File format: Ideally, the picture should be in [[SVG]] vector format, not a pixel format like GIF/PNG/TIFF. That way, future editors can edit the file, and tweak individual graphic elements (for example, as new records are set, future editors could add new points onto the end of the graph). I've used [[InkScape]] in the past to create SVG pictures: InkScape is free, mature, and works on Mac or PC. To get to SVG Format would entail re-drawing the picture from scratch.
::*Data: Another reason to re-draw the picture from scratch is because we don't know what source the original picture creator used: their data may be suspect. the [[WP:V]] policy applies to data in graphs as well: we must be able to identify a source. I'd suggest the data points from [[Chronology of computation of π]] are the best data to use. The Arndt book has a great table (in an appendix) summarizing the num digits over time, and it is consistent with the [[Chronology of computation of π]] data, so I'd just use the latter as a starting point.
::*Newest data: it would be great if you could extend the old graph to include the newest data through 2011 (as shown in [[Chronology of computation of π]])
: --[[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 18:17, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 
Have a look. Years before 1400 are compressed 20-fold compared to the years after.
[[File:Record_pi_approximations.svg|frame|center]]
Let me know what you want to have changed. Best, [[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]]) 15:17, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
::Awesome! Not only is it visually outstanding, but I loaded it in InkScape, and was able to edit the vectors: so future editors can add additional points at the end as time goes by. Great job! Go ahead and put it into the [[pi]] article; and also [[Chronology of computation of π]]. --[[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 15:42, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
:I think you actually have disregarded the first entry in the chronology table, being somewhat fringe, right? Should we start at 2000 BC? [[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]]) 15:37, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
::Let me look into that ... --[[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 15:42, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
:::Nageh: Yes, the 2600 Great Pyramid value is too fringe-y, so it should be omitted. The Rhind Papyrus value from 2000 BC is the first valid one. --[[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 15:44, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
::::Updated. [[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]]) 16:19, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
If I might comment, the 1e+012 is a very odd, jarring and probably incorrect form to use for the axis. It would make much more sense to use 10<sup>12</sup> as suggested, or 10^12 if it needs to be in one line for some reason. --[[User:Martin23230|'''<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; font-size:medium;">23230</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Martin23230|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic;">talk</span>]]</sup> 18:35, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
:Looking again, a few more suggestions. I think it would be a good idea to mark with a vertival like exactly where the breaks in the axis are, looking at it there is a jump between -250 and 480 that has no clue as to where it is. I would also suggest using BCE or just negative notation instead of BC, but that's more a minor thing. Finally, have the x-axis continue past -2000 but have the line fade off (or dashed) to show we don't have any knowledge before then. Starting it as it does just implies that is the first time anyone ever created it, which may not be true. --[[User:Martin23230|'''<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; font-size:medium;">23230</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Martin23230|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic;">talk</span>]]</sup> 18:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
::Agree that 10<sup>12</sup> is more attractive & understandable than 1e+012. --[[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 18:54, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 
::Frankly, I'm having difficulties using superscript characters with gnuplot. I could use the 10^2 notation, but I'm not sure whether everyone would be familiar with that notation. Of course, the same is true for the scientific exponent notation (1e2), which many (but possibly not all) are familiar with. Second opinion needed.
::As for the "break", there is none in my graphics. The x axis grows linearly from 2000 BC to 1400, and then again linearly but 20 times as fast. So the only "break" would be at 1400, but since I denoted the key changes along the axis from 2000 BC to 1400 I think users will be capable of interpolating in between. As for BC vs. BCE, why would one be better than the other?
::Extending the graph to the left with a dashed line is a pretty minor aesthetic change, IMO, and problematic actually since we don't know at which value to continue that line: should it be at 2, 1, or 0 digits of pi that were known prior to that date?
::Nonetheless, thanks for your input! [[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]]) 19:01, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
:::Concur that the issues (other than exponent) are rather minor and can be set aside. Regarding the exponent: The use of caret 10^2 is not common enough, and would confuse lots of readers. To get a superscript: could you create two separate strings "10" and "12" and make the font smaller for the "12" string? Or would the relative positioning of the two strings be too risky because it might display differently in different rendering engines? --[[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 19:07, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
::::There are manual ways around it, which means editing the SVG file, but the horrible thing is that Firefox has an outstanding bug for 7(!) years now that it prevents it from rendering superscript characters. Just plain horrible! I'll see what I can do. [[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]]) 19:12, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
:::::It might just be a British thing, but I'm pretty sure most people would know what 10^2 meant and I've never seen anyone write or even type 1e+2 (unless it's entered into a calculator), especially as that should be a capital E. And I do now get what you mean with the scale on the x-axis, it's just the non-uniform scale that seems could be clearer. Extending the graph I suppose would be problematic, I would just suggest moving the ends of the axes off slightly so the line doesn't touch the y-axis. Also, I don't know what you're using to edit the graph but Inkscape has a functional superscript function. Finally on BC/BCE I suppose should just defer to the article which uses BC, not what I would do for a scientific graph but it makes sense for the article. --[[User:Martin23230|'''<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; font-size:medium;">23230</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Martin23230|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic;">talk</span>]]</sup> 19:26, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
::::::No, everything is scripted with gnuplot so you don't have to fiddle around manually adjusting positions. It turns out that you need to configure an "enhanced" output mode to support superscripts in gnuplot. So it means it does work after all, and I have just updated the image accordingly. Also, I have changed BC to BCE as suggested (thank God, we don't have such a distinction in my language). [[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]]) 19:40, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
==solve problems==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Mauritius]], [[Territories and Dependencies of Mauritius]]
'''Request:''' I made these image using inskape, it was good but when i upload it the text always come in disorder, can this be solve?. [[User:Kingroyos|Kingroyos]] ([[User talk:Kingroyos|talk]]) 12:17, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
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: Change your text to Arial / Times New Roman. Most other fonts look rubbish when scaled on the MediaWiki servers. [[User:Gringer|gringer]] ([[User talk:Gringer|talk]]) 12:19, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
== Terrible graph, vectorise? ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Polymer]]
'''Request:''' This graph is illegible, can it be vectorised please? Thank you. [[User:Larryisgood|Larryisgood]] ([[User talk:Larryisgood|talk]]) 10:43, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
:[[:File:Spinodale und Binodale.svg]] might be translated or serve as a basis for vectorizing the graph. --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 10:52, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
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:Approximate redrawing of the graph is trivial. If it should be drawn exactly in the same way it would need to be replotted. [[User:Nageh|Nageh]] ([[User talk:Nageh|talk]]) 19:41, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
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:{{Done}} Trivially done. [[User:Martinor|Martinor]] ([[User talk:Martinor|talk]]) 12:25, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
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== Stop & Shop logos ==
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== Scottish Parliament seats ==
 
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== SVGify, please ==
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:You have not even checked if there are SVG logos present in other language versions of Wikipedia. There are in all cases but the last in de.wikipedia articles. The text-only logos might be moved to Commons in order to make them available for all Wikipedias. --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 07:44, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
::Try to complete the logos as quickly as possible, since its been put long ago.--([[User talk:Kkm010|<fontspan style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→</fontspan>]]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;[[User:Kkm010|Kkm010]]&nbsp;'''</span>[[Special:Contributions/Kkm010|<fontspan style="font-variant:small-caps">←track</fontspan>]]) 04:54, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
:::Who is this addressed to? My comment was intended to be a hint for Nyttend on how to get SVG versions. I moved two logos to Commons, but I won't upload any logos here. --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 08:19, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
:::I'm deeply sorry for my remarks, I hope you would complete the rest of the logos.--([[User talk:Kkm010|<fontspan style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→</fontspan>]]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;[[User:Kkm010|Kkm010]]&nbsp;'''</span>[[Special:Contributions/Kkm010|<fontspan style="font-variant:small-caps">←track</fontspan>]]) 08:58, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
:{{Done}} all. – [[User:Connormah|Connormah]] ([[User talk:Connormah|talk]]) 06:01, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks!--([[User talk:Kkm010|<fontspan style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→</fontspan>]]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;[[User:Kkm010|Kkm010]]&nbsp;'''</span>[[Special:Contributions/Kkm010|<fontspan style="font-variant:small-caps">←track</fontspan>]]) 10:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
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== resonance structures of BF ==
 
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'''Article(s):''' [[Fluorine]]
'''Request:''' Create illustration of the three BF lewis dot diagrams as per this page: [http://www.calvin.edu/~dav4/Documents/ed100758t.pdf]. Keep it short and wide (left to right equations). I don't care if we use the vs or if we use the double-headed resonance arrows. Please add (a), (b), (c) below each possible structure. (This will help me discuss the stuff in my caption.[[Special:Contributions/69.40.252.66|69.40.252.66]] ([[User talk:69.40.252.66|talk]]) 01:25, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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: Mmmh, this is doable, but I'm not a chemist, so what is a BF lewis diagram? Do you mean the diagrams of molecular bonds (singlet/double/triplet)? Which exact figure (or part of a figure) are you refering to? [[User:Martinor|Martinor]] ([[User talk:Martinor|talk]]) 05:53, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
::Think I got it. [[User:Vladsinger | vlad<b>§</b>inger]] [[User talk:Vladsinger | <sup>tlk</sup> ]] 17:19, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
:::{{Done}} Updated with larger arrowheads [[User:Vladsinger | vlad<b>§</b>inger]] [[User talk:Vladsinger | <sup>tlk</sup> ]] 02:32, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
[[File:BF resonance lewis structures.svg|thumb|300px|center]]
== fluoride bridging ligands ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Fluorine]]
'''Request:''' Create illustration mimicing this graphic (keep the side by side aspect and (a) and (b)). But make following changes:
 
*cut the "boxes" (bracket on left, box on right).
*Change the X's to F's.
*Get rid of the squiggly stuff in the right, bent ligand, model, but go ahead and have a line coming out of the L (iow -L-M-L-)
[[Special:Contributions/69.40.252.66|69.40.252.66]] ([[User talk:69.40.252.66|talk]]) 01:35, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 
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: Which graphic are you referring to with 'this'. The one requested to be created above? [[User:Martinor|Martinor]] ([[User talk:Martinor|talk]]) 05:53, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'm stumped too. =P. I don't see anything with X's in the paper you linked in the request either, please respond if you want this done. [[User:Vladsinger | vlad<b>§</b>inger]] [[User talk:Vladsinger | <sup>tlk</sup> ]] 17:26, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
:::Okay, done as per request on my talk page and this source [http://ars.sciencedirect.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S001085450900215X-sc1.jpg]. [[User:Vladsinger | vlad<b>§</b>inger]] [[User talk:Vladsinger | <sup>tlk</sup> ]] 02:36, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
::::{{Done}} Fixed with correct structure [[User:Vladsinger | vlad<b>§</b>inger]] [[User talk:Vladsinger | <sup>tlk</sup> ]] 03:32, 18 May 2012 (UTC).
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== Arrows ==
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'''Article(s):''' N/A (For use on Wikibooks, [[b:Template:Arrow]], we don't have our own graphics lab there.)
'''Request:''' Please create a version of each of these images (as a separate file) with the outside white instead of transparent. The intended use is on [[b:Template:Arrow]], where it will be used in the way the [[Template:Soccer icon]] is here, so another image can be overlaid on top of these, creating a blue arrow or a brown arrow or whatever. [[User:Liam987|<span style="color:Ivory;font-variant:small-caps;background:DarkSeaGreen;text-shadow:0 2px 8px #000080">&nbsp;Liam987&nbsp;</span>]] 09:16, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
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Would a full collection in some other format be ok ? I don't get the whole SVG thing, would PNG be ok for you ? When you say white outside, are you wanting a keyhole effect where they are overlaid and you can see something under them, but only in the middle ? <span style="text-shadow:#c5C3e3 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em;">[[User:Penyulap|'''Penyulap''']]</span>[[User talk:Penyulap|<span style="color:transparent;text-shadow:green 0em 0.2em 0.02em;"> ☏</span>]] 17:44, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:Yeah, I think that would be fine [[User:Liam987|<span style="color:Ivory;font-variant:small-caps;background:DarkSeaGreen;text-shadow:0 2px 8px #000080">&nbsp;Liam987&nbsp;</span>]] 06:54, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
::Thank you, these are prefect [[User:Liam987|<span style="color:Ivory;font-variant:small-caps;background:DarkSeaGreen;text-shadow:0 2px 8px #000080">&nbsp;Liam987</span>]][[User talk:Liam987|<span style="background:Tan;font-variant:small-caps;text-shadow:0 2px 8px black">(talk)</span>]] 15:20, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
== Ratu logo ==
 
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'''Article(s):''' [[Ratu (band)]]
 
'''Request:''' Vectorize this logo, please [[User:Bluesatellite|Bluesatellite]] ([[User talk:Bluesatellite|talk]]) 04:08, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
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:First of all, please provide the article this logo would be used. Secondly, please fix the licence, as the decoration above and below the typeface are way too complex. This meets the threshold of originality. --[[User:Wylve|Wylve]] ([[User talk:Wylve|talk]]) 10:00, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
::Updated. I have uploaded the new logo. Vectorize please, it will be used for the main page's FA in id.wikipedia, since there's no free picture of the band. [[User:Bluesatellite|Bluesatellite]] ([[User talk:Bluesatellite|talk]]) 03:26, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
:::{{Done}}. Uploaded as [[:File:Ratu_logo.svg]]. --[[User:Wylve|Wylve]] ([[User talk:Wylve|talk]]) 11:54, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
== Flag error ==
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'''Request:''' Can somebody figure out the fault with this flag? I tried but can't find out why there's these black splotches, they don't show up in my inkscape. Please also replace the arms on the flag with the version provided above, Thanks. '''[[User:Fry1989|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Fry1989</span>]]''' <sup>'''[[User talk:Fry1989|<span style="color:#CC0000;">eh?</span>]]'''</sup> 20:32, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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:{{Done}} uploaded newer version over the old one, standard should be fine now. [[User:TRAJAN 117|TRAJAN 117]] ([[User talk:TRAJAN 117|talk]]) 00:35, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks, looks great. '''[[User:Fry1989|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Fry1989</span>]]''' <sup>'''[[User talk:Fry1989|<span style="color:#CC0000;">eh?</span>]]'''</sup> 04:04, 27 May 2012 (UTC)