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'''Article(s):''' [[County Road 492 (Marquette County, Michigan)]], [[Road surface marking]], etc
'''Request:''' I had previously obtained [[:File:M-15 centerline 1917.jpg|a photo]] of this first highway centerline from the Michigan Department of Transportation photo archives, but I have since located a different photo from the Federal Highway Administration archives that I think is better. I would like to see the photo improved for an attempt to nominate it at [[WP:FPC]]. Note, I have the original 8 MB TIFF file from FHWA that I can e-mail to anyone; just contact me through the e-mail this user link. <span style="background:#006B54; padding:2px;" >'''[[User:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;">Imzadi&nbsp;1979</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;"><big>→</big></fontspan>]]'''</span> 23:55, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
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Upload the tif to commons and link to it from [[:File:Thefirstruralhighwaycenterline.png]]. That way it's available forever and to anyone who wants to work with it. Or, provide a link here to the file you found and someone else will upload it to commons. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 01:52, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
:Well, first the Upload Wizard didn't like the file. Now neither Commons nor Wikipedia will upload it without an error message. The file was e-mailed directly to me from FHWA, so if I can't upload it somehow, I'd have to share it by e-mail. <span style="background:#006B54; padding:2px;" >'''[[User:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;">Imzadi&nbsp;1979</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;"><big>→</big></fontspan>]]'''</span> 02:11, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
::Try converting it to PNG. Most any graphics editor can do that. Then try uploading. Personally, I find [http://www.irfanview.com/ IrfanView] handy to have around and it will convert any image type into almost any other image type. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 02:49, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
:::The PNG created from the TIFF is ↑ above already. <span style="background:#006B54; padding:2px;" >'''[[User:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;">Imzadi&nbsp;1979</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;"><big>→</big></fontspan>]]'''</span> 02:56, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
::::I would imagine your 8MB TIF is of higher resolution than the rather small PNG above. Just save the TIF as a PNG without resizing it or altering it in any way. Then upload. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 03:10, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::Which is exactly what I did. <span style="background:#006B54; padding:2px;" >'''[[User:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;">Imzadi&nbsp;1979</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;"><big>→</big></fontspan>]]'''</span> 22:55, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::An uncompressed TIF of that size would be less than 1MB. You said your TIF was 8MB. Somewhere you misplaced 7MB. Further, a TIF original from a US govt source is almost never so small as the image above. So if the above PNG is, as you say, a direct copy of the TIF file the FHWA sent you, then there is no need to forward that TIF to anyone and your hopes for a Featured Picture are over. End of story. However, what I would do if I were you is.... stop, back up and start over. Open the TIF in a graphics editor and save it as a PNG. Make sure you are not resizing it. If you figure you've already done this, then do it again. A PNG from an uncompressed 8MB TIF should be an image significantly larger than 796 x 784. From a compressed TIF even larger. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 23:28, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for the ''kind'' words, however, the FHWA-sent TIF is the source for the PNG that was created by GraphicConverter as displayed above, and I did not select any options to resize it, since Preview says that the file is a 796 x 784 pixel, 100 dpi, 8.8 MB, 16-bit color depth, uncompressed TIFF. Now, it is my assumption that something in the encoding is such that the servers on Commons/Wikipedia and Flickr can't decode it, and therefore reject the file, or I would have uploaded by now. <span style="background:#006B54; padding:2px;" >'''[[User:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;">Imzadi&nbsp;1979</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;"><big>→</big></fontspan>]]'''</span> 23:37, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::::<sigh> Here's a little more kindness... stop arguing with me, back up, start over, re-read what I said and upload either the TIF or a direct PNG conversion. If and until you get that done we're simply wasting time. If you figure I'm just an unkind and unhelpful dolt who is determined to give you a hard time, then that's OK too. I'm good either way. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 00:17, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::Fact 1: I have attempted three times to upload the TIFF, and MediaWiki gives me error messages each time. Fact 2: I attempted to upload the same TIFF to my Flickr account, thinking that if I did that successfully , I could get it transferred to Commons; that attempt failed with another error message. Fact 3: The PNG is a direct conversion from the TIFF without any resizing, resampling or alteration. Fact 4: since the TIF was uploaded, it has been edited by a third-party. Now, if you want, I will willingly forward the e-mail from FHWA with the attachments, as I stated at the beginning, but because of server issues, I can't upload it. <span style="background:#006B54; padding:2px;" >'''[[User:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;">Imzadi&nbsp;1979</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;"><big>→</big></fontspan>]]'''</span> 00:38, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
{{outdent}}I have made a fourth and fifth attempt to upload the TIFF to Commons. Using the Upload Wizard, I got a message that just said "upload failed". Using the old upload form, I get the error message screen that pops up whenever the servers are down ("Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. Please try again in a few minutes."). At the bottom, it says: "If you report this error to the Wikimedia System Administrators, please include the details below. PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.18/extensions/PagedTiffHandler/PagedTiffHandler.image.php line 211: Allowed memory size of 125829120 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 24158230 bytes)". This is very frustrating to me because the file opens fine in Adobe Photoshop (CS4), GraphicConverter (5.0.2), Apple Preview (5.0.3), yet Commons and Flickr give me error messages. The original PNG version (remember, it's been edited since I uploaded it) was created from the TIFF by opening it in GraphicConverter and saving it as PNG without any resampling, no resizing, no interlacing, no filtering, nothing. That resulted in a file on my computer that reads as 1.2MB, but on upload here showed as 720KB. I don't know what Quibik did, but his edit summary was "Removed some wave patterns in lighter areas." and resulted in a file of 348KB. <span style="background:#006B54; padding:2px;" >'''[[User:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;">Imzadi&nbsp;1979</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Imzadi1979|<fontspan colorstyle="color:white;"><big>→</big></fontspan>]]'''</span> 01:19, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
:So, since you have already uploaded a direct PNG conversion of the TIF file, what would you like us to do with it? [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 01:45, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
::Imzadi, perhaps you could try 16-bit > 8-bit conversion. Open the original file with Photoshop. First go to Edit > Image size.. Make sure the drop-down menu reads 'pixels', not 'percent' or anything else. Does the size now read 796 or is it larger, as Jbarta suggested? I only ask because I suspect that you may have been mistaking preview/save parameters as original image parameters. Anyway, cancel that (don't resize). Now go to Edit > Mode > 8-bit, then File > Save As.. Select TIF from the lower drop-down box. Name the file (so as not to overwrite the original). Click Save. You will be asked about compression, select 'None'. That's it! The finished filesize should be ~4Mb (half the original), however there is a difference between 'filesize' and 'size on disk' (the latter being larger). Any joy? Regards, [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 09:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
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File:Liliu02Liliuokalani, photograph by Frank Davey, The Mid-Pacific Magazine, Volume 2.jpg|Proper crop with some tilting {{Done}} ([[User:nagualdesign|nagualdesign]])
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'''Request:''' Can someone clean this two images up? [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 00:18, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Quadroon ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Quadroon]]
'''Request:''' Clean up and remove wave patterns... [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 00:02, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
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:{{done}} Removed the wave patterns. —[[User:Quibik|Quibik]] ([[User talk:Quibik|talk]]) 09:25, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
:::Anything else that can be cleaned up? The sky looks as damaged as the wall behind her.--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 14:56, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
== Cropping ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[William Ellis (missionary)]]
'''Request:''' Can somebody help me crop this? I can't tell where the image end and where the book page starts? Edit/upload twice, first just crop to the edge of frame, then center crop on the second upload. Thanks. [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 04:54, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Didn't I do this an hour and a half ago?! Forgive me for saying, but the 3 newer versions that you uploaded afterwards aren't very good, and re-scaling has introduced some pretty nasty pixelization. I noticed that the image I worked on wasn't 100% plumb, but given the resolution (rotating an image this size may cause loss of detail) I opted to leave it as it is. [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 05:23, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
:..Okay, I've revisited the image (the version I uploaded) and rotated it fully one-third of a degree! As expected, all the fine cross-hatching on his jacket was lost, so I kept the old image on the new text, which I unsharp masked. I've also centered the image and text horizontally. I'll upload it now. Please don't take this as me wanting to get into a pissing contest. If you don't prefer this version just revert it, no harm done. (''I'll just quietly judge you!'') ''';-)''' [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 05:41, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
::Judge me as you will. My opinion was that the google book image had better details. Sorry if I offended you, but I'm very picky. Can you do a last crop that remove all the text and centers on the image, only? --[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 06:39, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
:::I wasn't offended. Perhaps you could use {{tlx|Css Image Crop}} instead? That way the original is preserved for other uses. Like this: [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 07:09, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
{{Css Image Crop
| Image = William Ellis, missionary from the Society and Sandwich Islands, by Charles Taylor, 1827.jpg
| bSize = 215
| cWidth = 200
| cHeight = 185
| oTop = 10
| oLeft = 10
| Location = center
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::::How would I apply that to an infobox on his article?--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 14:51, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::Maybe [[Wikipedia_talk:Extended_image_syntax#Feature_request:_Cropping|this]] will help. Give it a week, if nothing comes of it I'd crop the image and save it as a new file. I noticed that you've cropped [[:File:William Ellis, missionary to the Sandwich Islands engraved by W. R. Wade, 1827.jpg|one of the others]], too. Not necessarily a good idea if you ask me. We can either create good, archiveable images to upload to the commons or create small images with a specific article in mind. The former is usually preferable, whenever possible. [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 21:59, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
::::::All captions and descrpitions in my opinion can be included in the description, and the history of the image and the link to the National Library of Australia list the original file. And in my opinion, again, too much derivative files equal bad, unless there is a great reason in keeping the original as it is, plus it's no longer in the original state since people like you been editing and tweaking it. That's my thoughts.--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 22:24, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Okay then. [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 22:44, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Kuakini ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Kuakini]]
'''Request:''' Clean up first image with minimal cropping. Thanks. [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 21:38, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
:Can anybody clean up [http://ia700500.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/7/items/journalofwilliam000434mbp/journalofwilliam000434mbp_tif.zip&file=journalofwilliam000434mbp_tif/journalofwilliam000434mbp_0087.tif&scale=1&rotate=0 this link] and remove the pixelation and upload to second image?--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 05:52, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
::And adjust them to be the same height, width and size, without cropping any part of the figure itself.--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 14:27, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
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File:Faster pussycat kill kill poster (1).jpg|Blatant fold marks {{Done}}
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File:IMAGE#TWO.EXT|reference image of the complete painting is pending upload, but the rest of the paper is blank space
File:Shinno Shinno_(Shennong) deivative_derivative.jpg|How's this? (''See comments below!'')
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:Thanks! That looks very nice! [[Special:Contributions/67.6.163.68|67.6.163.68]] ([[User talk:67.6.163.68|talk]]) 08:50, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
== Signature ==
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File:Signature Pedro II.png|Signature of Emperor [[Pedro II of Brazil]] {{Done}}
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File:Poomaikelani (PP-98-18.012).jpg|Could someone please make this image more proportionate; it's stretched out a bit. Check [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1tQmbiDino 2:50 on this youtube video] and the gallery of similiar images on the image description for the right proportions. Please DON'T crop, clean or do anything else on the first upload, just straighten it.-- [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 01:08, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
File:Likelike, photograph by Menzies Dickson (PP-98-9-017).jpg||Please make this image more proportionate; it's stretched out a bit. Check [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bClKEtldB9c 0:04 on this youtube video] for the right proportions. Please DON'T crop, clean or do anything else on the first upload, just straighten it.-- [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 06:57, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
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'''Request:''' Hi again. If possible, please remove the white crease that goes from the top of the image to the middle of the right side. I realize this may be difficult because of the way the crease goes through the light tower and other detailed things, so if it's impossible to do without damaging the image, just let me know. Any other cleanups would be welcome. Thanks. <span style="background:#03298a;color:Cyan;padding:1px 4px;">[[User:Delaywaves|<span style="color:White;font-variant:Small-caps;">'''''Delaywaves'''''</span>]]&nbsp;&bull;&#32;[[User talk:Delaywaves|<span style="color:Lime;font-size:80%;">talk</span>]]</span> 04:13, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''{{I take|1=User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr}} 04:15, 20 December 2011 (UTC) {{Done}} [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 04:44, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
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{{Done}}: [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 04:25, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
==Clarity in Technical Reporting==
{{Resolved}}
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File:Clarity in Technical Reporting (Katzoff NASA pamphlet.JPG|This is for an article in my sandbox, heading to DYK.
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'''Request:''' Tilt so that it shows as a perfect rectangle. Work any other magic you want.<br />
 
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''{{Done}} [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 17:43, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Small request ==
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'''Article(s):''' 50 articles including [[Russian Orbital Segment]]
'''Request:''' Can two straight lines be added to the new image, just pointers of any kind you like, the original image will show the way they go. I can figure out gimp atm. <span style="text-shadow:#c5C3e3 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em;">[[User:Penyulap|<span style="color:#002100;">'''Penyulap'''</span>]]</span><sub>[[User talk:Penyulap|<span style="color:#07AA07;">''' talk'''</span>]]</sub> 07:43, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''{{Done}} [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 01:06, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Guangxu Emperor ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Guangxu Emperor]]
'''Request:''' Is it possible to clean up the picture, please? [[User:Lecen|Lecen]] ([[User talk:Lecen|talk]]) 13:57, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''{{Done}} I've tweaked it a bit but not sure exactly what you had in mind. It's not really possible to eliminate the noise or "graininess" without also blurring the image unacceptably. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 15:47, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
::Thank you very much, Centpacrr. It looks great. Regards, --[[User:Lecen|Lecen]] ([[User talk:Lecen|talk]]) 16:10, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
:::You're welcome, Lecen. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 16:33, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Robert Dampier ==
 
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'''Article(s):''' [[Kamehameha III]], [[Nāhienaena]]
'''Request:''' Could someone join these two images with a small amount of white space in between them.... [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 17:42, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
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[[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 18:45, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
:Wait how do you add captions or align it right?--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 18:34, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 
::As far as placing it in the page and aligning it one side or the other, that gets a little more complicated. As I said it depends on the specific application. Regarding captions, you can have one for each image or one for both images. You can also have a heading over the images. There's really a lot you can do with it. If you'd like, be a little more specific where and how you'd like the images placed and I'll do it for you. From there you can play with it further or repeat it for other pages. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 00:00, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
== Fix stretched out image ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Kamehameha IV]]
'''Request:''' Could someone make the first image more proportional like the second image and the image in the link? Thanks. [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 17:00, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
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{{Done}} [[User:PawełMM|PawełMM]] ([[User talk:PawełMM|talk]]) 20:38, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
:No. That's not what I mean. The first image is stretched out and I was wondering if someone could squish it down to make the King's face and body more proportional to what he actually look like which is shown by the second image. Focus on his face which is much longer than the second image.--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 02:50, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::{{Done|Redone}} [[User:PawełMM|PawełMM]] ([[User talk:PawełMM|talk]]) 18:15, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
== [[:File:Eudocimus albus -USA -eating a fish-8.jpg]] ==
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File:Eudocimus albus -USA -eating a fish-8.jpg|A rather nice portrait.
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'''Article(s):''' [[American White Ibis]], currently at FAC.
'''Request:''' Could the watermark in the bottom right please be cloned out? Thanks. [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]]) 01:21, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''{{Done}} [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 02:09, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
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:Thanks :) [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]]) 00:37, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
== The Milkmaid ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[The Milkmaid (Vermeer)]]
'''Request:''' Extract digitization from [http://www.googleartproject.com/museums/rijks/the-milkmaid-48 Google Art], upload to commons, and replace current infobox picture. [[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 14:19, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''{{Done}} [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 17:26, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Ed Barrow 1916 ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Ed Barrow]]
'''Request:''' If possible, please remove the strange pattern/texture all over Barrow's hat, face and body. Thanks. <span style="background:#03298a;color:Cyan;padding:2px 5px;">[[User:Delaywaves|<span style="color:white;font-variant:Small-caps;">'''''Delaywaves'''''</span>]]&nbsp;&bull;&#32;[[User talk:Delaywaves|<span style="color:Lime;font-size:80%;">talk</span>]]</span> 23:52, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):''' I'd say there isn't really much that could be done to improve the image's quality. There is just too much lost information to recover, any work would require a vast amount of time resulting in a heavily manipulated image, unfortunately on this one I'm afraid there isn't much that can be done. Regards, <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 12:42, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Pine Valley Mountains ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Silver Reef, Utah]]; [[Pine Valley Mountain Wilderness]]
'''Request:''' Could someone do some general cleanup on this image? A few editors and I are working on bringing [[Silver Reef, Utah]] to Featured status, and it would help if this image was cleaned up a bit. Thanks, [[User:The Utahraptor|<span style="color:green;">The Utahraptor</span>]][[User talk:The Utahraptor|<sup>Talk</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/The Utahraptor|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 20:41, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
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:Centpacrr, I reverted your edit. Sometimes you do fine work. This wasn't one of those times. I might also add that when viewing mountains in the distance, it is common to have a sort of [[:File:Rainy Blue Ridge-27527.jpg|foggy bluish cast]]. This is normal. It's not necessarily an error that needs to be "fixed". [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 22:12, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
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What sort of "general cleanup" did you have in mind? [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 21:09, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
:I don't know much about editing photos, so I don't know how to describe what I want done. The best I can do is say "make it so it's not as blurry." [[User:The Utahraptor|<span style="color:green;">The Utahraptor</span>]][[User talk:The Utahraptor|<sup>Talk</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/The Utahraptor|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 21:15, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
:[[User:Dank|Dank]] was the one that suggested I bring the image here, so you could ask him. [[User:The Utahraptor|<span style="color:green;">The Utahraptor</span>]][[User talk:The Utahraptor|<sup>Talk</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/The Utahraptor|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 21:16, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
== Rembrandt etching ==
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File:B039 Rembrandt.jpg|''Joseph and Potiphar's Wife'', by Rembrandt
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'''Article(s):''' [[Joseph and Potiphar's Wife (etching)]], [[List of etchings by Rembrandt]], [[Potiphar]]
'''Request:''' Remove white background (the off-white paper) and straighten. [[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 08:10, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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Personally I think this image is fine just the way it is. It's not really crooked and the white paper showing through at the edges is minimal. There are a WHOLE lot of other images deserving of attention instead of fiddling around making unnecessary changes to perfectly good images. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 12:09, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
:Concur. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 17:31, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
::Ditto. [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 19:24, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
:::Ditto. [[User:PawełMM|PawełMM]] ([[User talk:PawełMM|talk]]) 10:25, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
::::Ditto. [[User:Jbarta|Jackie]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 10:28, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ditto. [[User:Jbarta|Tito]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 10:41, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
::::::Ditto. [[User:Jbarta|Jermaine]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 10:55, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Ditto. [[User:Jbarta|Marlon]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 11:01, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Ditto. [[User:Jbarta|Michael]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 11:16, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
*What is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Photography_workshop&diff=467742472&oldid=467735740 '''this'''] supposed to mean? [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 15:50, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
::I was wondering the very same thing. Something fishy is going on. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 19:41, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
:::I presume then that you did not post these. In that case I would suggest that you should promptly change your password and see if you can determine who has hacked your account. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 19:52, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
::::Those damn hackers. I'll bet it was the Chinese. Those dudes have been hacking the crap out of EVERYTHING. How do you think I might determine who may have hacked my account? [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 19:59, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::I would suggest that you contact a Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:CheckUser#Contacting_a_checkuser|'''Checkuser''']] and see if one of them can help trace the IP that this particular posting came from, and in the meantime both change your password immediately and run a antivirus program on your PC to see if there is any keystroke recording app hiding on your hard drive. I would also scan through your contributions log and see if there any other postings listed there that you do not recognize. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 20:09, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
::::::Checkuser won't do any good. Mine might be one of those [[Zombie (computer science)|zombie machines]]. The hacker will do his hacking through MY computer so it will appear as if I did it myself. You'd think these jokers would have better things to do than mess with random Wikipedians. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 20:21, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::::I understand. I would still change your password and scan your hard drive for [[malware]]. Good luck and let me know if you find anything. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 20:45, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
::::::::If it happens again, can I come to you for advice? [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 20:48, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::Of course, no problem. Also check your recent emails to see if you have received or opened anything suspicious. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 20:51, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::I did get something the other day... it was from someone named "mackpt" something and it seemed to be in Chinese. It definitely looked suspicious. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 21:05, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Email addresses in spam, messages with trojans, malware, etc are almost always cloned and don't represent their real origin. I get quite a bit of spam in Chinese and other languages all of which I simply send to the trash. I never open attachments on anything that I can't confirm its origin. If you are suspicious but not sure, open the full headers to trace its path back to its originating IP. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 21:24, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
:Well, it doesn't happen to me very often. I would really like to know who this "mackpt" person is though. I'd really love to give him a piece of my mind. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 21:33, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
==3D plane==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Sonic Advance 2]]
'''Request:''' Remove the black around the top and bottom and remove the watermark in the bottom left corner. Thanks, [[User:Albacore|Albacore]] ([[User talk:Albacore|talk]]) 16:41, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
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{{Done}}: [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 19:54, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
==Touchup on Walker photo==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Samuel Colt]]
'''Request:''' Could I have this old image touched up or cleaned up? It is in an article going through FAC at the moment. Thanks[[User:Mike Searson|'''Mike''']] - [[User_talk:Mike_Searson|'''Μολὼν λαβέ''']] 15:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):{{Done}} [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 17:25, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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:Wow, that came out awesome! Thanks![[User:Mike Searson|'''Mike''']] - [[User_talk:Mike_Searson|'''Μολὼν λαβέ''']] 00:44, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
::Agreed. When I first saw the photo I thought it was a disaster. But you certainly did a fine job bringing it back. [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta|talk]]) 00:59, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 
:::Thanks for the kind words but I am not completely happy with it as yet so I have downloaded the hi res 12MB tiff file from the LoC to redo the figure of Walker and will then upload a hi res restoration. (I will not get to it till next week, however, as I'll be spending the next four days working on the NBC telecast of the NHL Winter Classic hockey game which will be played here on Monday afternoon.) [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 03:13, 30 December 2011 (UTC)