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:The original images are so bad, not much can be done to help them. ([[User:Hohum|<fontspan colorstyle="color:Green;">'''Hohum'''</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Hohum|<fontspan colorstyle="color:Red;">^@</fontspan>]]) 21:34, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

::Hohum is right on. Most of the trouble with them is the high level of [[Compression artifact|compression artifacts]]. I could repaint new images with those as a guide that might look pretty darn close, but it'd take a long time. If you can't find better versions, him me up on [[User talk:MjolnirPants|my talk page]] and I'll start on them. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''MjolnirPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 21:58, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

:::{{replyto|MjolnirPants}}Thank you for your disposition. However, my mission is to have the actual Vanity Fair caricatures uploaded, not replicas. Again, I thank you very much and I wish you a happy new year.--[[User:The Theosophist|The Theosophist]] ([[User talk:The Theosophist|talk]]) 13:28, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

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== Leonard Bernstein ==

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File:Leonard Bernstein by Jack Mitchell.jpg

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: Remove frame. Maybe make b/w. -- [[User:Yerevantsi|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">'''Ե'''</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">րևանցի</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Yerevantsi|^talk]] 03:43, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

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{{I take}} <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 10:47, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

:{{Done}} - <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 10:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

== União Nacional dos Escuteiros de Timor-Leste ==

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::::I hope it will be "infobox-worthy". But that's not up to me to decide. When you're done with your version of it, I will suggest it on the talk page and hopefully people will like it enough to use it as the main image.--[[User:Hipposcrashed|Hipposcrashed]] ([[User talk:Hipposcrashed|talk]]) 18:04, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

:::::That's probably a good idea. I can pretty much guarantee that there will be at least one person who hates it. The combination of the original being taken in B&W (which has a higher dynamic range than color) and the bright sunlight makes it hard to get the colors looking completely natural. Take a look up top. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''MjolnirPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 14:03, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

{{od}}Sadly I'm one of the people that hates this image. [http://cdn01.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/10/kate-middleton-day-4-new-zealand-04102014-08-400x470.jpg here] is a colour image of her taken the same day, which was easy to find, and could have been used as a reference. [https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=middleton+mcqueen&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=gLmuVP-7LIKyUcGdgvAK&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1172&bih=915#q=middleton+mcqueen&safe=off&tbm=isch&tbs=ic:specific,isc:blue&imgdii=_ many more here]. ([[User:Hohum|<fontspan colorstyle="color:Green;">'''Hohum'''</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Hohum|<fontspan colorstyle="color:Red;">^@</fontspan>]]) 17:13, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

:I have uploaded my own version, revert if you need. ([[User:Hohum|<fontspan colorstyle="color:Green;">'''Hohum'''</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Hohum|<fontspan colorstyle="color:Red;">^@</fontspan>]]) 17:59, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

::I have a few complaints about the version now, but for some reason or another, the image as shown in GIMP on my computer has a very different gradation of luminosity than it does when I upload. I've tried twice now to get it to display right, but it just doesn't, so I reverted myself. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''MjolnirPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 15:12, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

:::I managed to reset the color calibration in GIMP. I've uploaded aversion which combines mine and Hohum's submission. Revert if needed. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''MjolnirPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 16:35, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

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== San Lazzaro degli Armeni ==

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File:San Lazzaro degli Armeni, Venice aerial photo 2013.jpg

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: If possible, please fix the tower (whatever's wrong with it). -- [[User:Yerevantsi|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">'''Ե'''</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">րևանցի</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Yerevantsi|^talk]] 21:16, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

;Graphist opinion(s): {{Done}} [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 21:31, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

::Thank you. --[[User:Yerevantsi|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">'''Ե'''</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">րևանցի</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Yerevantsi|^talk]] 00:05, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

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== Capra aegagrus ==

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File:Capra aegagrus Armenian coin 2008.png

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: Please remove the reverse face (the one on the right) and improve the brightness of the left one. -- [[User:Yerevantsi|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">'''Ե'''</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">րևանցի</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Yerevantsi|^talk]] 03:01, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

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:{{I take}} Do you want the background to be transparent? <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''MjolnirPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 06:27, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

::Yes. --[[User:Yerevantsi|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">'''Ե'''</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">րևանցի</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Yerevantsi|^talk]] 01:13, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

{{done}} See above. I did the best I could with the levels, but they were actually pretty good to begin with, it's just that silver is hard to photograph. I did get all of the compression distortion out of the polish, though. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''MjolnirPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 05:52, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

:::Thank you. --[[User:Yerevantsi|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">'''Ե'''</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">րևանցի</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Yerevantsi|^talk]] 03:06, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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:{{Done}} - <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 22:56, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

::Thank you!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 13:24, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

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I did some work on the first one. There's really not much that can be done to the second without a higher resolution copy. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''MjolnirPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 13:58, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

:Nice work! I initially thought about doing this one, but fixing uneven brightness isn't one of my strengths. I have removed the scratch across his face though. ([[User:Hohum|<fontspan colorstyle="color:Green;">'''Hohum'''</fontspan>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Hohum|<fontspan colorstyle="color:Red;">^@</fontspan>]]) 19:02, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

::Good catch. I completely missed it before I uploaded. That wasn't a scratch though: it was a mistake of mine. I use the quick mask mode to fix the uneven luminosity, and I add masking to the region I want to adjust and invert after the fact. Normally, it works really well so long as I'm patient and remember to blur to remove the brush artifacts, but this time, I accidentally went over the edge a little and didn't catch it.

::The quick mask/invert method is the best way I've found for selecting a region of uneven brightness. It usually works pretty well on glaring too, because it's so easy to see if your selection gradient matches the gradient of the pre-touchup image. Just remember to check your edges by exiting quick mask mode, turning off the ant line and dragging around the sliders on the brightness and contrast adjustments (I didn't do that this time , which is why I messed up). Once you get the selection right, use curves or levels to do the actual adjusting, as I've found the luminosity differences are mostly in the mid tones. Sometimes it takes a couple of passes with ever-expanding regions of adjustment, but the results are usually near-perfect. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''MjolnirPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 20:31, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

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: {{Done}} by [[User:EuroCarGT|EuroCarGT]]. <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 23:05, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

== Racine Scouts Drum and Bugle Corps ==

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: Would it be possible to remove the seller's watermark from these two images, please? – '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; font-size:1.05em;">[[User:Tim riley|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0A0A2A;">Tim riley</fontspan>]][[User talk:Tim riley|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#848484;"> talk</fontspan>]]</span>''' 16:57, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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: {{Done}} - <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 23:03, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

:Thank you!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 11:14, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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== Temple of Garni ==

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: Please improve the general quality of the image and enhance the brightness so it doesn't look so gloomy. (NOTE: might wanna consider working with the original version) -- [[User:Yerevantsi|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">'''Ե'''</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">րևանցի</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Yerevantsi|^talk]] 03:16, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

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:How's that? <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''MjolnirPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 14:10, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

::Could you please make it a bit less brighter? --[[User:Yerevantsi|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">'''Ե'''</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">րևանցի</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Yerevantsi|^talk]] 21:52, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

:::How now? (brown cow) <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''MjolnirPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 13:23, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

::::Not exactly what I hoped for, but would do. Thank you. --[[User:Yerevantsi|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">'''Ե'''</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">րևանցի</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Yerevantsi|^talk]] 22:48, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

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== Mkhitar Sebastatsi ==

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File:Portrait de Pierre Mékhitar (Saint Lazare des Arméniens, Venise) (5182840694).jpg

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: Please crop out the portrait in the center (in an oval shape) and upload it as a separate file. -- [[User:Yerevantsi|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">'''Ե'''</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">րևանցի</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Yerevantsi|^talk]] 19:51, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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: {{done}} <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''MjolnirPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 21:18, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

::Great! --[[User:Yerevantsi|<fontspan colorstyle="color:red;">'''Ե'''</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">րևանցի</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Yerevantsi|^talk]] 01:02, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

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:I would say there isn't really much that could be done to improve the image in all honesty. There isn't enough detail to work with, best bet really would be try to and source a better image. Regards, <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 20:24, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

::{{done}} Fallschirmjäger is right in that there's not much to be done. However, after doing an image search myself (flikr, google, bing, yahoo, tineye, yandex, dogpile and a few others I have in a script) and not finding anything better than an enlargement of the face in this photo, I've done what I could. Really, if this article is dear to you, I would suggest hitting the pavement and contacting some museums and archives that might have better quality images of him. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''MjolnirPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 15:42, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

::Looks great, thanks! I too had tried looking for a copy after uploading but couldn't. The only regret I have is that his right eye looks blurred. Is there any way it can be fixed by using the already existing image in his article (same picture, but just a head shot and better quality)? I don't know much about photo editing so I don't know if that is possible, but I thought it worth asking. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Steverci|Steverci]] ([[User talk:Steverci|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Steverci|contribs]]) 23:34, 26 January 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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:{{Done}} - <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 12:27, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

== Josephine Diebitsch Peary ==

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:{{I take}} - <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 20:30, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

:: {{Done}} - Cleaned it up a bit while I was at it too. <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 21:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

:Thanks! Why second image?--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 10:50, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

::I would normally overwrite the original image however as it is a historical image it is [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Overwriting_existing_files#Exceptions best practice] to upload as a separate file no matter how minor the changes are. If I had overwitten the folks at Commons would probably revert it. Thanks for the understanding! <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 16:46, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

::Gotcha-cool. I've had other old photos fixed up, wonder if I need to go back and revert them...?--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 00:47, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

:::I wouldn't worry too much, can imagine would be a right pain to go back and revert loads with work already done, just keep in mind for future! ;) <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger|</i>&nbsp;<b style="color:#3CB371">&#9993;</b>]] 11:28, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

== Broch of Mousa ==