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::::Tweeked it some more. Comparing my 2 versions it looks like there's a few patches where I've accidentally desaturated it, but viewed on its own it isn't too bad. T'll do. [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 20:05, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
:Listen, I have already explained myself-nothing negative in this comment, in fact you're right. Can you do it?--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 13:36, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
== Translucid background ==
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File:Pedro I Imperador 1823.jpg|Emperor Pedro I in profile
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File:Independence or death sketch by Pedro Americo.jpg|Brazilian declaration of independence
File:Independence or death sketch by Pedro Americo (edit).png|{{Done}}
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'''Article(s):''' [[Pedro I of Brazil]]
'''Request:''' Picture to the '''left''': I'd like to see a new .png version of this picture with translucid background, with everything else but the oval part removed, similar to [[:File:Dom Pedro Duke of Braganza.png|this picture]]. Picture to the '''right''': It's a little brooked, it must be straightened (rotated a little bit). Id like to have a newer .png version with translucid background similar [[:File:Family and slave house servants by Klumb 1860.png|to this picture]]. [[User:Lecen|Lecen]] ([[User talk:Lecen|talk]]) 15:31, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
:Thank you, JBarta! You did a great job as always. That was precisely what I was looking for. --[[User:Lecen|Lecen]] ([[User talk:Lecen|talk]]) 12:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):''' I noticed that the png thumbnail above (Independence or death sketch) looks pretty blurred, so I compared the before and after image file pages and that too looks blurred. It's only when you look at the 2 images full-size that you can see there is no blurring, just a pretty shoddy job of resizing the png done by the Wiki software, whereas it does a pretty good job at resizing jpegs. Maybe this should be brought up at the Village Pump? Just thinking out loud really. [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 00:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
:It's a fairly well known issue with PNG's on Wikimedia... thumbnails are blurred. Personally I prefer jpgs for all but simple drawn images, but there are many editors who are so enamored with transparent backgrounds that the blurriness becomes unimportant to them. In this instance I just made the images as requested and left off the commentary. – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 00:18, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
::I see. Well they are good for infoboxes, which have an off-white background. But I'll certainly bear this issue in mind when I make uploads in future. I don't suppose there's any point going to the VP though. Regards, [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 01:53, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
:::I think the tradeoff of a blurry image kills any benefit from a transparent background in an infobox or anywhere else. My opinion. – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 02:08, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
::::True. But if an image is intended for use in an infobox it can be scaled appropriately before uploading then used full-size, avoiding the resizing issue. Now that I'm aware of the limitation (and a limitation it most certainly is, I agree with that) I can work with it. [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 02:31, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::Well, sizing the image to fit precisely in the infobox can be a bit of a house of cards... doesn't take much to break. The default image size changes from time to time. Editors change images sizes from time to time. Browsers may also change the effective image size under certain circumstances. Not to mention you also have low-res versions of images littered about. And all this nonsense is completely avoided by using jpgs for what they were intended for. – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 02:50, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well, I'll just do the best that I can do with the information at hand and hope that other editors do the same. I normally set infobox image widths, as I didn't think they had a default size as thumbnails do. If another editor comes along and changes it without considering the result, and without my knowledge, I probably won't loose any sleep. So long as I've done a good job I'm happy. Browser-based resizing isn't much of an issue. I've got mine set at 125% (hi-res screen) and it works ''way'' better than WP's resizing. And if a jpeg with an infobox-coloured background were used there would be similar issues if and when the default colour changed, right? Ultimately a software fix would sort this out. Give it time and keep your fingers crossed. Regards, [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 04:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Except for high quality color photos, could GIF's (which are limited to 256 colors, but support transparency) be the right format? --[[User:GianniG46|GianniG46]] ([[User talk:GianniG46|talk]]) 08:40, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Well, yes and no. It would render better than a png (I think), but there are still issues. If a reader were to click on the gif thumbnail, where would they go? To a little gif? To a large, but 256 color gif? This is also the issue with creating separate small thumbnail images. Click on the thumbnail and all you get is the thumbnail instead of a full sized image. We forget that thumbnails (whether in infoboxes or elsewhere) are just that... thumbnails to a full sized image. When we focus too much on trying to make the thumbnail pretty, we may end up defeating half the purpose of this encyclopedia... large and wonderful images. Using gifs I think would be ultimately not useful. And the only argument for PNG's that seems valid is the one Nagualdesign mentions above... put up with the crappy rendering and hope that some day the Wikisoftware can render them better. For me however, the best route today for photos and paintings is still the good old JPG. – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 09:20, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
== Jill Stein speaking ==
{{Resolved}} [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 21:27, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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File:Jill Stein speaking.jpg|Green Party presumptive presidential nominee Jill Stein speaks at an event in March
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'''Article(s):''' [[United States presidential election, 2012]] infobox
'''Request:''' Please remove the black object behind Stein on the left side of the photo. [[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn|talk]]) 17:48, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''{{Done}} [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 18:26, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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:That was fast. Thank you very much.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn|talk]]) 18:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
== Battle Creek Depot - remove regular noise ==
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File:Michigan Central Depot Post Card Battle Creek MI.jpg|Postcard with regular noise
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'''Article(s):''' [[Michigan Central Railroad Depot (Battle Creek, Michigan)]]
'''Request:''' Remove regular noise with FFT, please. I'm pretty satisfied with the colors at this point, but the regular noise is nasty. There are horizontal lines in all three colors, plus hex noise in the blue component. [[User:Pi.1415926535|Pi.1415926535]] ([[User talk:Pi.1415926535|talk]]) 06:25, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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{{Done}}: Done as requested. [[User:PawełMM|PawełMM]] ([[User talk:PawełMM|talk]]) 15:23, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Beautiful work. Thanks! [[User:Pi.1415926535|Pi.1415926535]] ([[User talk:Pi.1415926535|talk]]) 02:01, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
== William Gowland ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[William Gowland]]
'''Request:''' any way to reduce the pixellation?... [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 18:15, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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:At least some of it is regular noise. I'll make an attempt but some of the others here will likely be able to give you a better result. [[User:Pi.1415926535|Pi.1415926535]] ([[User talk:Pi.1415926535|talk]]) 19:20, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
::Made an attempt. Further improvements are welcome! [[User:Pi.1415926535|Pi.1415926535]] ([[User talk:Pi.1415926535|talk]]) 19:24, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
:::{{Done|Redone}}: [[User:PawełMM|PawełMM]] ([[User talk:PawełMM|talk]]) 08:52, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
;I think based on the source material, that's pretty good!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 15:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
== Tongan seniti ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Tongan seniti]]
'''Request:''' remove funky background since rotation... [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 16:01, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''{{Done}} [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 18:16, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
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:Fantastic, thank you!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 18:37, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
== Pomare II ==
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File:Pomare II, engraving by R. Hicks.jpg
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*[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Pomare_II%2C_engraving_by_R._Hicks.jpg]
*[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/9/9c/20120601062854%21Pomare_II%2C_engraving_by_R._Hicks.jpg]
*[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/9/9c/20120601062833%21Pomare_II%2C_engraving_by_R._Hicks.jpg]
*[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/9/9c/20120601062621%21Pomare_II%2C_engraving_by_R._Hicks.jpg]
*[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/9/9c/20120601062349%21Pomare_II%2C_engraving_by_R._Hicks.jpg]
'''Article(s):''' [[Pōmare II]]
'''Request:''' Please look at the past five different versions in revision history, linked above, and choose the best one to clean up. Don't crop until after cleaning, crop as a seperate upload. [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 00:59, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):''' {{Done}} - Cleaned third file - cropped in [[:File:Pomare II, engraving by R. Hicks cropd.jpg]]. Tell if you want color adjustments. --[[User:GianniG46|GianniG46]] ([[User talk:GianniG46|talk]]) 16:17, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
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:Can you change the color and crop the original? There is no need for a second file. You can place a duplicate template on it and delete it--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 17:28, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
::Done --[[User:GianniG46|GianniG46]] ([[User talk:GianniG46|talk]]) 21:35, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Can you make it completely black and white?--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 16:01, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
::::Done. --[[User:GianniG46|GianniG46]] ([[User talk:GianniG46|talk]]) 23:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::Thanks.--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 04:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
== Daniel Florencio O'Leary ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Daniel Florencio O'Leary]]
'''Request:''' crop background so even all around... [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 23:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
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{{Done}} – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 03:39, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 17:05, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
== Oerip Soemohardjo ==
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File:Oerip Soemohardjo 5 November 1947 KR.JPG|Newspaper image of [[Oerip Soemohardjo]]
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'''Article(s):''' [[Oerip Soemohardjo]]
'''Request:''' Remove giant crease. — [[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 05:46, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):''' {{Done}} - Of course, there is some arbitrariness in the eyebrows. Further, I suggest regular noise to be removed by FFT techniques (I don't have FFT in my software). --[[User:GianniG46|GianniG46]] ([[User talk:GianniG46|talk]]) 07:17, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
*Don't think I have it either. Thanks. I'll leave this up in case anyone wants to tackle the FFT. — [[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 07:20, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::I retouched the eyebrows - hope that now they are more similar to the original. --[[User:GianniG46|GianniG46]] ([[User talk:GianniG46|talk]]) 09:25, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::*Yep, looks good. — [[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 09:46, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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:::Cleaned and desaturated. [[User:PawełMM|PawełMM]] ([[User talk:PawełMM|talk]]) 13:56, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::*Looks great! Thanks — [[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 22:54, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
== John Pascoe Grenfell ==
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File:John Pascoe Grenfell signature.jpg|Signature of [[John Pascoe Grenfell]]
File:John Pascoe Grenfell signature.png|png file
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'''Article(s):''' [[John Pascoe Grenfell]]
'''Request:''' Hi, I' like to have a newer .png file with translucid background, please. [[User:Lecen|Lecen]] ([[User talk:Lecen|talk]]) 13:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):''' {{I take|[[User:PawełMM|PawełMM]] ([[User talk:PawełMM|talk]]) 16:13, 15 June 2012 (UTC)}}
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::Thank you very much, PawełMM. That's precisely what I wanted. Cheers, --[[User:Lecen|Lecen]] ([[User talk:Lecen|talk]]) 18:44, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
{{Done}}: Done as requested. [[User:PawełMM|PawełMM]] ([[User talk:PawełMM|talk]]) 16:40, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
== Arsaos ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Arsaos]]
'''Request:''' remove background... [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 10:01, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):''' {{Done}}: Done as requested. [[User:PawełMM|PawełMM]] ([[User talk:PawełMM|talk]]) 11:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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:I've refreshed my browser, sometimes still showing the old background. Glitch?--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 15:51, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
::In my browser I have the same problem, but see [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coins_of_Arsaos_in_Navarre_Spain_150BCE_100BCE_Roman_stylistic_influence.jpg this], please. [[User:PawełMM|PawełMM]] ([[User talk:PawełMM|talk]]) 16:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Cleaned up a bit and restored the "ears" which had been removed in the previous attempt. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 17:07, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
:Those "ears" are pins holding the coin, do we really need the pins?--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 23:28, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
::I was unaware that these were pinheads and thought they were some intended part of the original coins as these "ears" appeared to be the same copper color as the coins. I have therefore removed them from the image. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 00:34, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
:Fantastic! Thank you also for bringing them closer together!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 08:30, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
== Scout Association of the Isle of Man ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Scout Association of the Isle of Man]]
'''Request:''' rotate so the three dots are at the bottom... [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 13:27, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''{{Done}} [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 15:02, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
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:Thank you, but for some reason it has changed the color and made the border pixellated.--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 23:31, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
::I have redone the rotation using a different technique. I'm unclear as to why the original rotation technique caused a distortion of the border. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 00:20, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
:Thank you! You got it!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 08:32, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
== Remove background ==
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File:Doug Sisson 2012.JPG|Doug Sisson 2012
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'''Article(s):''' [[Doug Sisson]]
'''Request:''' Please remove the woman with the flower-covered shirt in the background, or if it would be easier, replace the entire background with a different image. <span style="background:#03298a;color:Cyan;padding:1px 4px;">[[User:Delaywaves|<span style="color:White;font-variant:Small-caps;">'''''Delaywaves'''''</span>]] • [[User talk:Delaywaves|<span style="color:Lime;font-size:80%;">talk</span>]]</span> 03:33, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
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{{Done}} – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 04:59, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
== Kuhio Funeral ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Abigail Kapiolani Kawānanakoa]], [[John C. Lane]]
'''Request:''' Please crop this higher resolution of these two figures and upload over the existing two images... [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 18:49, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
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{{done}} – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 19:10, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks.--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 19:24, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
== Catholic Persecution in Hawaii ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Roman Catholic Diocese of Honolulu]]
'''Request:''' Crop (with or without text, whichever looks better) and clean up the paper around it (retain yellow color if possible rather than having it black and white). Can the cleaning be done seperately first and the cropping second? [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 06:28, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion(s):''' {{Done}} sequentially cleaning and cropping on the same files. --[[User:GianniG46|GianniG46]] ([[User talk:GianniG46|talk]]) 07:53, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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:Thank you.--[[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 08:12, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
== L'Artemise ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Laplace Affair]]
'''Request:''' Crop away white space first, then lossless crop to the edge of image... [[User:KAVEBEAR|KAVEBEAR]] ([[User talk:KAVEBEAR|talk]]) 08:16, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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{{Done}}: Cropped and also cleaned up a bit. Regards, <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User:Fallschirmjäger|<b style="color:#4D5D53">Fallschirm</b><b style="color:#2E8B57">jäger</b>]]<b style="color:#701"></b></i>[[User talk:Fallschirmjäger| <b style="color:#3CB371">✉</b>]] 23:03, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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