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== Edit Request - 0 on 30-Sept-2019: Add Goal sentence in the first paragrah of the Oracle Database ==

== Purposeversion of Wikipedia23.x ==

the version I downloaded and installed identifies as "23.0.0".

Wikipedia is not intended to be a [[WP:HOWTO|How-To]] guide or technical manual. Much of the technical content would be fine at Wikibooks but not here - virtually all of it was drawn from Oracle publications either on its own website or sponsored. I realise that Oracle's website is a nightmare, and finding things like platform support by version is often a challenge, but we're here to describe things for a lay audience, not to provide a technical reference.

this article mentions the initial version as "23.2.0".

what am I missing? [[User:Erwindon|Erwindon]] ([[User talk:Erwindon|talk]]) 23:16, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

:With 23.2.0, the .2 is a "release update" version, which is basically a patch version. It's a little more than a normal patch, because sometimes they add new features in the release update. [[Special:Contributions/57.140.28.12|57.140.28.12]] ([[User talk:57.140.28.12|talk]]) 16:19, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

We could do with sections on Oracle engineered systems, RAC and the like, but drawn from reliable independent sources and describing them, not telling people how to specify and use them. <b>[[user:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[user talk:JzG|help!]])</small> 09:41, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

== Why two initial versions listed for v5 ==

: You don't want marketing information nor technical information. What is left for a technical product like Oracle? A simple name like RDBMS is a technical acronym.

: What to say about the "Releases and versions" table ? It is full of technical information about the markee features and you refused to add references to the meaning of these features ...

: In addition, somebody from Dell like you who states "Oracle's website is a nightmare" without sourcing his statement must have grief against Oracle. This is not tolerable and seems to be a COI to me.

: I spent multiple days trying to accommodate all the Wikipedia processes talking to so many different Wikipedia people with different opinions, only to see someone coming out of the blue and discarding content based on his own dictatorial principles (see all edits already attempted on this talk page and history). This is against the basic collaboration principles of open source projects like Wikipedia.

[[User:JFVerrier|JFVerrier]] ([[User talk:JFVerrier|talk]]) 13:44, 1 October 2019 (UTC)JFVerrier

:: {{U|JFVerrier}} ... Given Dell and Oracle have a competition overlap the in x86 midrange server market perhaps {{U|Jzg}}/Guy should strictly not have commented, though I'd broadly concur with having nightmares on the Oracle edelivery website until I'd got some sort of knack, but I'm pretty useless and I've also had difficulties (nightmares) on IBM, HP, etc. too ... and even a few blue words at the Dell website for that matter all for the old [[Patches (Chairmen of the Board song)|patches]]. I note you seem to have referred to ''Oracle Database'' as simply ''Oracle'' which perhaps is interesting given your earlier comments. In my opinion it is well possible to write a suitable article on Oracle Database product ... I would treat it the same way I treat a steam engine article. But it requires diligence and criticisms and warts and history to be considered. As with all software one only really knows what was wrongs with version X-1 when version X comes out. But in general the treatment this article has just received is little different than that received by some other commercial software products in my opinion. I too have invested my time with you. thankyou.[[User:Djm-leighpark|Djm-leighpark]] ([[User talk:Djm-leighpark|talk]]) 22:24, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Why are two initial versions listed for v5

== Final comment in main article does not follow NPOV ==

5.0.22 (5.1.17) [[User:GrandPoohBah|GrandPoohBah]] ([[User talk:GrandPoohBah|talk]]) 00:41, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

The last line in the main article does not appear to follow NPOV. Using words like 'fleecing' suggest underhand dealings by the company. This should be rephrased and citations about legal cases/controversies given. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:KimballKinnison|KimballKinnison]] ([[User talk:KimballKinnison#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/KimballKinnison|contribs]]) 12:10, 25 July 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:In general most of the last paragraph needs removing if not cited, otherwise its non [[DB:V]] and needs removal even if halfway accurate.[[User:Djm-leighpark|Djm-leighpark]] ([[User talk:Djm-leighpark|talk]]) 14:26, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

:: Removed the last sentence in the "competition" section as totally POV. The rest of that section is questionable; it mentions mid-size markets but ignores large markets such as major corporations. That is likely where most of Oracle's revenue comes from. [[User:MeekMark|MeekMark]] ([[User talk:MeekMark|talk]]) 16:25, 30 July 2020 (UTC)