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The claim is made that: "Oracle is the world's first RDBMS."

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Surely, this is not the case. I am unsure which is the first but, amongst others, IBM System R and Logica Rapport were around before Oracle, I believe. Can someone clarify please?

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[[User:Geoff97|Geoff97]] 18:09, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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:Multics too claims to be the first RDBMS. We need a consensus.

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:"...(RSI) was founded in 1979 and released Oracle V.2 as the world's first relational database.". [http://www.developer.com/db/article.php/1582621]

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:"Multics Relational Data Store (MRDS)... is believed to be the first relational database management system ...". [http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/mrds.html]

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== Edit Request - 0 on 30-Sept-2019: Add Goal sentence in the first paragrah of the Oracle Database ==

RSI was started in 1979. There are references to other RDBMSs before that date, which seems to eliminate Oracle as the first. The question is which was the first? See #10 here for a reference to RAPPORT-3 from Logica:

[http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=636808&jmp=abstract&dl=GUIDE&dl=ACM]

[[User:Geoff97|Geoff97]] 10:33, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)

:RDBMS is a loosely coined term according to [[Relational database management system]] and there is no database that fully follows the rules of the [[relational model]]. Hence we can remove the "Oracle is the world's first RDBMS" statement from the page or make a modification to make it NPOV. [[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:42, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)

== version 23.x ==

If you take the strict definition, then there are no RDBMSs, so Oracle wasn't the first. If you take a less strict view and ask what was the first near-RDBMS, that wasn't Oracle either, but we're not sure what was. So, in the statement "and introduced their product Oracle V2 as the first commercial relational database system" I propose to change "the first" to "an early" to make this NPOV. In the bulleted list of firsts towards the end I propose to remove the first RDBMS claim completely. [[User:Geoff97|Geoff97]] 17:49, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)

:The discussion can be continued at [[Talk:Database management system]]. I've copied the contents to there. [[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:34, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)

the version I downloaded and installed identifies as "23.0.0".

this article mentions the initial version as "23.2.0".

what am I missing? [[User:Erwindon|Erwindon]] ([[User talk:Erwindon|talk]]) 23:16, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

:With 23.2.0, the .2 is a "release update" version, which is basically a patch version. It's a little more than a normal patch, because sometimes they add new features in the release update. [[Special:Contributions/57.140.28.12|57.140.28.12]] ([[User talk:57.140.28.12|talk]]) 16:19, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

== Why two initial versions listed for v5 ==

Why are two initial versions listed for v5

5.0.22 (5.1.17) [[User:GrandPoohBah|GrandPoohBah]] ([[User talk:GrandPoohBah|talk]]) 00:41, 2 March 2024 (UTC)