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:Most likely because of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WikiProject_Ireland&diff=prev&oldid=1170552908 this edit] — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 12:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
== Cleaning up NA-class categories ==
Hi, at [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Cleaning up NA-class categories]] there seems to be consensus about the removal of a number of NA-class categories from most pages. Can the editors here take a look if anything important is being missed in that discussion, and if not see how this can be implemented? [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 14:52, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:Ooh, this is timely, as we are making other changes to the category tree ("articles" -> "pages"). I will look through and respond with any comments — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 15:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks! [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 16:51, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
== Redlinked categories ==
The recent "articles vs. pages" activities here have resulted in the hypergeneration of an absolutely massive number of redlinked class-rating categories at [[Special:WantedCategories]], to the point where the latest run of that report features over 700 redlinks on it where it should normally have less than ''200'' — and while ''technically'' redlinked maintenance categories aren't as big of a deal as redlinked ''mainspace'' categories are, redlinked maintenance categories actively ''interfere'' with the process of ''finding'' redlinked mainspace categories in the list: the amount of eyeglazing scroll-scroll-scroll needed to bypass all the class-rating categories makes it easier to ''miss'' mainspace categories hiding in ''between'' the class-rating categories, and the entire report has a limit to how many categories it can find or list at any one time, so every time categories get left unresolved across more than one update of that report it gets pushed that much closer to the limit.
I do want to call attention to one specific small batch:
*{{cl|Mid-impact WikiProject Wikipedia essays pages articles}}
*{{cl|NA-impact WikiProject Wikipedia essays pages articles}}
*{{cl|High-impact WikiProject Wikipedia essays pages articles}}
*{{cl|Top-impact WikiProject Wikipedia essays pages articles}}
*{{cl|Low-impact WikiProject Wikipedia essays pages articles}} (which I temporarily created as a categoryredirect to the correctly-named version, but it's still not empty)
*{{cl|Unknown-impact WikiProject Wikipedia essays pages articles}}
But regardless of whether a category is "pages" ''or'' "articles", there's obviously no call for "pages articles", so this is just a straight-up error rather than an oversight on anybody's part.
Otherwise, the remainder are all either "FM-Class [project] pages" or "NA-Class [project] articles" categories that need to be either created if they're actually wanted, or get completely kiboshed if they're unwanted. I won't list them ''all'' here, as I'd be here for hours formatting them and this post would approach the size of a novel, but they can all be seen at [[Special:WantedCategories]] (where, just a reminder, the total number of entries is over 700, so it'll entail more than one page of results).
So could somebody associated with this project please take steps to either get them created if they're wanted or completely prevent their generation by the template if they're not, and could somebody please take steps to ensure that these changes don't keep spawning more and more redlinked categories in the future? It's just not a thing I can put up with working around, because these redlinks actively ''interfere'' with the process of cleaning up the more resolvable ones — it's a thing that needs to be resolved as soon as possible, because we can't just leave hundreds of redlinked categories sitting there unfixed for extended periods. Thanks. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 17:13, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:Yes, we are aware of the issue. See also above. As soon as [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 7#Category:Category-Class articles]] closes, we can sort this mess out properly. Please bear with us for a couple more days — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 22:15, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
== auto parameter ==
Since bots should no longer add a class parameter to the banner and instead should add to the shell, the {{para|auto}} parameter should either be removed completely or moved to the banner shell. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 12:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:Okay, I guess this makes sense. Are there any bots updating PIQA ratings? — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 14:17, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::I have no idea. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 14:28, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
== Punctuated WPs not recognizing duplication ==
{{tl|WP Anti-war}}, {{tl|WP New York (state)}}, {{tl|WP U.S. Roads}}, etc. don't show in {{cat|Pages using WikiProject banner shell with duplicate banner templates}} if duplicated. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 11:28, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:The current pattern for capturing is <code><nowiki>'<span class="wpb%-project">([%w%s]*)</span>'</nowiki></code> and %w does not include punctuation marks. Could be updated in [[Module:Banner shell/sandbox]] — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 11:52, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{Done}} <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 12:14, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Would it be simpler to use something like <code>[^<]*</code> (any characters except <)? — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 12:30, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Indeed it would...though I'd use <code>[^<>]*</code> just to be slightly safer. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 13:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Why isn't the essays banner recognised as a duplicate on [[Wikipedia talk:Nationality of people from the United Kingdom]]? — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 13:03, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
:Is it a namespace issue? {{tl|WP Wikipedia essays}} registers as a dup if applied in mainspace. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 13:59, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
::Possibly, but I'm not immediately seeing any code that would exclude other talk namespaces — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 14:15, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Am I missing something? I don't see two of that banners there. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 14:37, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
::::I'm being an idiot. I meant to ask why it is not identifying it as being outside the banner shell — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 14:45, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::It's because it's using the redirect name. You'll need to check the code to see how you are tracking this. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 14:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, redirects aren't recognized, only canonical names. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span> 14:56, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
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