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===[[Colonization of the outer solar system]]===
'''NOTE: See more extensive, parallel debate at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colonization of Mercury]].
 
This article is speculative and unencyclopaedic in my opinion. If colonization of the outer solar system should ever occur we would want an article on it, but I don't think we need one right now. [[WP:NOT|We do not]] try to predict the future. [[User:Worldtraveller|Worldtraveller]] 11:15, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. Can be encyclopedic if all of its information comes from reputable sources (NASA studies, for example). There is nothing preventing us from having articles about future events or even presenting predictions about future events as long as we are not the originators of the predictions (they come from a reputable source). <span style="font-size:90%;">—'''<font color="olivedrab">[[User:Cuivienen|Cuivi]]</font><font color="darkolivegreen">[[Wikipedia:Esperanza|é]]</font><font color="steelblue">[[User:Cuivienen|nen]]</font> (<font color="sandybrown">[[User talk:Cuivienen|talk]]</font>•<font color="cornflowerblue">[[Special:Contributions/Cuivienen|contribs]]</font>)</span><span style="font-size:85%;">, [[Monday]], [[8 May]] [[2006]] @ 11:25 [[UTC]]</span>'''
*'''Keep'''. [[User:Variable|siafu]] 12:24, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*<s>'''Delete'''</s> '''Keep''' with cleanup - or belongs in [[space colonization]] [[User:Crum375|Crum375]] 13:01, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
**It ''was'' an expansion of [[space colonization]], but was split off because that article became overly large.[[User:Variable|siafu]] 13:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
***It does make sense to have a separate section for the solar system, but this needs a clean up - I changed my opinion above to 'keep' with cleanup [[User:Crum375|Crum375]] 14:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - legitimate article on the ''idea'' of colonisation of outer solar system. Any faults are not reasons for deletion. [[User:Metamagician3000|Metamagician3000]] 13:44, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' &mdash; speculative entries need citations or removal. &mdash; [[User:RJHall|RJH]] 16:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' [[User:LeoO3|LeoO3]] 17:00, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' as with other colonization articles. [[User:Bucketsofg|<font color="#DF0001"><b>Buck</b></font>]][[User:Bucketsofg/Esperanza|<b><font color="green">ets</font></b>]]<font color="grey">[[User_talk:Bucketsofg|<b>ofg</b></font>✐]] 17:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong Delete''', per nominator. [[User:Fluit|Fluit]] 17:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete.''' [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a crystal ball|Wikipedia is not a crystal ball]]. In particular, see the very first sentence: Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable ''and almost certain to take place''. If the 2028 Olympics are specifically listed as unencyclopedic (because it would contain nothing but speculation), then the colonization of other planets is even less encyclopedic. [[User:Kafziel|Kafziel]] 17:23, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' Speculation is OK, so long as it is Professional Speculation. Needs work, particularly with citations. [[User:TedE|Ted]] 17:48, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong keep''' - because it (ideally) discusses objective, factual information about the great deal of past and current commentary and technical research on these ideas, a great deal of which has been funded by [[NASA]] and other space organizations and which has been carried out in peer-reviewed [[scientific literature]], the record of which is entirely a matter of fact, not speculation. The first peer-reviewed scientific paper on colonizing another planet (by [[Carl Sagan]] in the prestigious journal ''[[Science (journal)|Science]]'', on the potential to terraform and colonize Venus) was published almost fifty years ago, and such literature has been growing exponentially since then. Such factual information on past and ongoing research and commentary is no more speculative in nature than is any subject of scientific or engineering research. The Colonization of Mercury page is so far sparse and lacking in sources, but those should be remedied by further work, not by trashing a valuable subject. See also e.g. [[Terraforming]], [[Planetary engineering]], [[Robert Zubrin]], [[Gerard O'Neill]], [[Martyn J. Fogg]], [[The Mars Society]], The [[National Space Society]], the ''[[Journal of the British Interplanetary Society]]'', Carl Sagan, [[Wernher von Braun]], [[Verein für Raumschiffahrt]], and the links from these articles. And this is besides the further value of the entries to provide factual information on the idea of colonizing these planets in [[literature]] and [[the arts]] and as a subject of [[anthropology|anthropological]], [[culture|cultural]] and [[sociology|sociological]] interest. See also more extensive debate at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colonization of Mercury]], and see [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Space Colonization]]. - [[User:Reaverdrop|Reaverdrop]] 18:37, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep, but spruce it up.''''[[User_talk:Dlohcierekim| :) Dlohcierekim]] 18:37, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. [[User:Lankiveil|Lankiveil]] 00:19, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' [[User:Georgewilliamherbert|Georgewilliamherbert]] 04:22, 10 May 2006 (UTC)