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*Here, the website promotes the conspiracy theory that a secret cabal of Jews and Hindus were behind the [[2008 Mumbai attacks]][http://www.countercurrents.org/misra031208.htm][http://www.countercurrents.org/khan070110.htm].[[Special:Contributions/59.160.210.68|59.160.210.68]] ([[User talk:59.160.210.68|talk]]) 14:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
: if you think use of [http://www.countercurrents.org/ countercurrents.org] as [[WP:RS|Reliable Source]] is objectionable then you can complaint to admin [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Abecedare Abecedare] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SpacemanSpiff SpacemanSpiff]. currently you can't remove fact tags as such. --[[User:Onef9day|Onef9day]] ([[User talk:Onef9day|talk]]) 14:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
== madrasi is used against south indians, not people from madras ==
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*:I don't get it to be honest. It's pretty clear from these articles that it's at least a highly offensive term. Historically it isn't a slur but its usage has been outdated, and offensive enough to warrant articles on someone using it. - [[User:SourceIsOpen|SourceIsOpen]] ([[User talk:SourceIsOpen|talk]]) 00:30, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
:I am in agreement with [[User:Richard-of-Earth]] and [[User:Georgethedragonslayer]]. The [[Madras Presidency]] was the former name of a province in colonial India that covered what are now many southern Indian states including Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Kerala, and Karnataka. Just as the word ''Punjabi'' is used as a demonym for someone from the [[Punjab Province (British India)|Punjab Province]] (which includes what is now the Pakistani province of Punjab and the Indian states of Punjab, Haryana and Himachal Pradesh), the word ''Madrasi'' has been used to describe a person from the Madras Presidency, i.e. southern India. When most people use the word ''Madrasi'', they do not use it pejoratively, but use it to mean someone from the region of southern India. I hope this helps. With regards, [[User:Anupam|Anupam]]<sup>[[User talk:Anupam|Talk]]</sup> 01:58, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
::That's simply not the case in its modern usage. The word "madrasi" almost always is used pejoratively, and is definitely different from terms such as "punjabi". "Most mainland Indians see it [chinki] as an "endearing" nickname akin to the usage of madrasi for South Indians. People however must realise that neither term is endearing and in fact symbolise "cultural rejection"."<ref>https://www.jstor.org/stable/48505096</ref>, "Second, madrasi is a term for cultural rejection used by one dominant cultural player against an equal opponent; it is cultural politics, not racial ideology, and both are equally poisonous."<ref>https://www.jstor.org/stable/23251789</ref>. Saying that the term Madrasi is equal to the term Punjabi is simply misleading and not true. - [[User:SourceIsOpen|SourceIsOpen]] ([[User talk:SourceIsOpen|talk]]) 02:20, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
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