Content deleted Content added
→ArbCom 2018 election voter message: new section Tag: |
Dr. Blofeld (talk | contribs) Invitation to The World Destubathon (using massMessageLite) |
||
| (33 intermediate revisions by 11 users not shown) | |||
Line 1:
==Believers in Christ, Pearisburg==
You wrote: "... Believers in Christ, Lobelville, a para-Amish group until they moved out in 2023."
Where did they move to?
[[Special:Contributions/2003:DE:6F01:CD00:8D13:DBC8:D95B:95D4|2003:DE:6F01:CD00:8D13:DBC8:D95B:95D4]] ([[User talk:2003:DE:6F01:CD00:8D13:DBC8:D95B:95D4|talk]]) 10:12, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
:One family left the group and the others went to KY and/or TN as I understand it.[[User:Mikeatnip|Mikeatnip]] ([[User talk:Mikeatnip#top|talk]]) 13:04, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
==Edits to [[Daniel Sidney Warner]]==
Thanks for the edits to the [[Daniel Sidney Warner]] article. There has been a lot of confusion on this article between various editors and an individual claiming affiliation with the D.S. Warner Library. The person is constantly pushing the issue of Warner's influence on the development of the [[Church of God (Anderson)]]. I have decided not to engage anymore on the issue and leave it to other editors to improve this article. Thanks for making it better. [[User:Absolon|Absolon S. Kent]] ([[User talk:Absolon|talk]]) 17:16, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Line 44 ⟶ 57:
:I added some content and deleted one sentence to give a more balanced view. [[User:Dan Holsinger|Dan Holsinger]] ([[User talk:Dan Holsinger|talk]]) 00:53, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
== Jakob Ammann ==
As far as I know there are no new documents that PROOF that the Jacob Ammann born on 12 February 1644 was the Jakob Ammann of the Amish schism. As long as this is not clear, many other facts about his family remain somehow speculative, even if rather possible than not.
By the way, this is not YOUR article! With your actions you already chased away users like JonHarder who was quite productive concerning Anabaptism. Don't start an edit war! [[User:Arandiro|Arandiro]] ([[User talk:Arandiro|talk]]) 22:03, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
== Re:Thanks for your positive edits to Anabaptist articles ==
Dear User:Mikeatnip, thanks for your kind words about my improvements to Anabaptist-related articles. I've become interested in Anabaptism recently, especially after exploring the content of "The Historic Faith" (if you're familiar with that) and noticed that there was not much coverage on Wikipedia. If time allows, I may travel to visit some Anabaptist communities to get photographs for these articles too. I appreciate your note about the Hutterites not practicing footwashing—that was something I wasn't aware of. I am grateful for your words again and hope you have a wonderful day! With regards, [[User:Anupam|Anupam]]<sup>[[User talk:Anupam|Talk]]</sup> 14:18, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
:I have had a desire to add more to the articles, especially the Anabaptist Theology one. Your edits pushed it in a good direct. But time does not allow me to do what all I would like. I live in Ohio at the moment so if you travel around, contact me and I can take you on a tour of Holmes and surrounding areas. :-) I used to be editor of The Heartbeat of the Remnant and am quite familiar with the Charity-type churches. Check out the book Andrew Ste. Marie and I did on Jakob Ammann if you have not already. [[User:Mikeatnip|Mikeatnip]] ([[User talk:Mikeatnip#top|talk]]) 14:23, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
::I really appreciate the invitation and I will be in touch! Thank you for your generosity! With regards, [[User:Anupam|Anupam]]<sup>[[User talk:Anupam|Talk]]</sup> 14:59, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
==[[Proto-Protestantism]]==
I support what you said about the article, have a look at what I said. I'm Dan Holsinger. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:8071:B81:DA80:5591:E601:B653:907D|2A02:8071:B81:DA80:5591:E601:B653:907D]] ([[User talk:2A02:8071:B81:DA80:5591:E601:B653:907D|talk]]) 17:17, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
== ArbCom 2022 Elections voter message ==
<div class="ivmbox " style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #AAA; background-color: ivory; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center; ">
<div class="ivmbox-image" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em; flex: 1 0 40px;">[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|40px]]</div>
<div class="ivmbox-text">
Hello! Voting in the '''[[WP:ACE2022|2022 Arbitration Committee elections]]''' is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on {{#time:l, j F Y|{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2022|end}}-1 day}}. All '''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2022#Election timeline|eligible users]]''' are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The [[WP:ARBCOM|Arbitration Committee]] is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration|Wikipedia arbitration process]]. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose [[WP:BAN|site bans]], [[WP:TBAN|topic bans]], editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy|arbitration policy]] describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
If you wish to participate in the
</div>
</div>
<!-- Message sent by User:Cyberpower678@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2022/Coordination/MM/02&oldid=1124425183 -->
==Kenton Amish affiliation==
Hello Mike, Some days ago I wrote a paragraph about the "Kenton Amish affiliation" in the [[Kenton, Ohio]] article but my edit was reverted, in my view, without a real reason. Maybe the best would be to make it into a stub or short article of its own. I'm not registered and cannot create new articles. Could you please to it. I may then expand it. My text here below. Dan Holsinger [[Special:Contributions/2A02:8071:B86:8060:25D3:F11C:F51F:2E16|2A02:8071:B86:8060:25D3:F11C:F51F:2E16]] ([[User talk:2A02:8071:B86:8060:25D3:F11C:F51F:2E16|talk]]) 10:38, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
In 1953 a more conservative faction of the [[Amish]] in North-East [[Indiana]], that is the [[Elkhart-LaGrange Amish affiliation|Elkhart-LaGrange]] and [[Nappanee, Indiana|Nappanee]] Amish settlements, established a new settlement South of Kenton that became a new [[Subgroups of Amish|Amish affiliation]].<ref>[https://ideaexchange.uakron.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1117&context=amishstudies Cory Anderson: ''Of Process, Practice, and Belief: What Can We Learn about Old Amish Church History and Polity from this Special Issue’s Source Documents?'' in Journal of Amish and Plain Anabaptist Studies, Volume 7, 2019, page 103.]</ref> In 1958 it consisted of two districts (congregations).<ref>[https://gameo.org/index.php?title=Hardin_County_Old_Order_Amish_Settlement_(Kenton,_Ohio,_USA) ''Hardin County Old Order Amish Settlement (Kenton, Ohio, USA)''] at [[Global Anabaptist Mennonite Encyclopedia Online|GAMEO]].</ref> In 2010 the settlement consisted of 8 congregations<ref>[https://amishamerica.com/ohio-amish/ ''Ohio Amish''] at amishamerica.com.</ref> and in 2022 of 10 congregations with a total population of 1,155 people. It had also spread into [[Marion County, Ohio|Marion County]].<ref>[https://groups.etown.edu/amishstudies/files/2022/07/Amish-Pop-2022_by_state_and_county.pdf ''Amish Population in the United States by State, County, and Settlement, 2022''] at Young Center for Anabaptist and Pietist Studies at [[Elizabethtown College]].</ref> In 2017 Christophe Petrovich classified Amish affiliations into six groups ranging from most conservative to most liberal. The Kenton Amish affiliation was classified in the second most conservative group that "excommunicates those joining a district considered too technologically permissive or that teaches assurance of salvation".<ref>[https://ideaexchange.uakron.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1117&context=amishstudies Cory Anderson: ''Of Process, Practice, and Belief: What Can We Learn about Old Amish Church History and Polity from this Special Issue’s Source Documents?'' in Journal of Amish and Plain Anabaptist Studies, Volume 7, 2019, page 106.]</ref> In 2011 the Kenton Amish affiliation had 13 settlements in six [[U.S. state]]s with all together 25 congregations.<ref>{{cite book|title=The Amish|last=Kraybill|first=Donald|author-link=Donald Kraybill|author2=Karen M. Johnson-Weiner |author3=Steven M. Nolt |year=2013|publisher=Johns Hopkins Univ Pr|pages=139}}</ref>
{{Reflist}}
== Problems with your view of cults. ==
Well, I've seen some time now that you refuse to accept that Jim Roberts' group, The Brethren, is a cult. Look, I know that maybe you have a little sympathy for the members of this "religion" because you are a member of a religion ([[Anabaptism]]) whose principles resemble in some segments with The Brethren (believe me, I already checked and researched due to awkwardness and reluctance on your part to accept about it). The problem is that I was a neighbor of families that were destroyed by this organization (my first girlfriend had a family member who is still missing because of them) and even local journalists where I live have called them a cult. That's why I ask you (with all due respect, because I'm very puzzled and surprised): why this reluctance to accept that The Brethren is a cult? Unless you have a friend or relative who is a member of that religion, I don't understand why you would show sympathy for a religious organization that has been accused of kidnapping and brainwashing (and which has personally affected my social circle). Look, I'm being honest and respectful, I just don't understand your sympathy for them. I just want to know why... [[Special:Contributions/2804:14C:5B41:8B9E:BC90:D0EF:F709:6750|2804:14C:5B41:8B9E:BC90:D0EF:F709:6750]] ([[User talk:2804:14C:5B41:8B9E:BC90:D0EF:F709:6750|talk]]) 02:23, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
:One of the reasons the group has been secretive is because of having family members force (yes, FORCE, as in push a member into a car and drive them away against their will) people to leave the group. So where is the "cult" at: with the group that allows anyone to leave at any time or with family who absolutely refuses to accept their son's or daughter's adult decision to try to live in literal obedience to Jesus? Has the Jim Roberts group ever FORCED people join their group? No.
:The issue of people calling a group they do not agree with a "cult" is not limited to Jim Roberts group, no not by a long shot. About any religious group out their has ex-members and detractors who are ready to sling mud at those they disagree with. Perhaps if families would just accept that their child or brother/sister has decided to take a different approach to life, and not try to FORCE them back into their philosophical/religious worldview, that child/brother/sister would be more willing to come around and visit.
:All that said, I personally think the Jim Roberts group did take a more protectionist stance than was ideal. But when you look at it from their standpoint, of having their members taken away by FORCE, then their "going underground" really makes a lot of sense. Think: "persecution."
:If family members would have just accepted their son/daughter/brother/sister's decision to live a distinct lifestyle, I suspect that the going underground would have never happened. But when you have private detectives looking to hustle you into a car and FORCE you into a lifestyle you have chosen to turn away from, then running and hiding is the only option. Or, fighting back, which the group does not do, since they are pacifists.
:On another note, anonymous users are welcome to edit Wikipedia, but people who make an account and use that account to make edits are generally taken more seriously, since there is more accountability with an identified user. [[User:Mikeatnip|Mikeatnip]] ([[User talk:Mikeatnip#top|talk]]) 13:06, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
:I was in the Brethren in 1998, a cult is when there is some man who controls everything, people look to him to make rules, he is held above other group members. When you read 1 Corinitians 5 most people think this was talking about a physical thing it wasn't, your Father is God his wife is the church, if someone comes into the church and starts ruling it he is guilty of 1 Cor 5, people don't see this because it is so prevalent it would be weird if it wasn't, Jesus said "call no man your rabbi, master" that includes "church leadership" Jesus was preaching a radical independence not a group think type situation with a leader at the top. There was no leader of the church when I was there, it was an environment where i could pray, read the bible, seek God, and be around people who were doing the same thing. [[User:Mikekumm|Mikekumm]] ([[User talk:Mikekumm|talk]]) 18:25, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
== ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message ==
<div class="ivmbox " style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #AAA; background-color: ivory; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center; ">
<div class="ivmbox-image" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em; flex: 1 0 40px; max-width: 100px">[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|40px]]</div>
<div class="ivmbox-text">
Hello! Voting in the '''[[WP:ACE2023|2023 Arbitration Committee elections]]''' is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on {{#time:l, j F Y|{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2023|end}}-1 day}}. All '''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023#Election timeline|eligible users]]''' are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The [[WP:ARBCOM|Arbitration Committee]] is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration|Wikipedia arbitration process]]. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose [[WP:BAN|site bans]], [[WP:TBAN|topic bans]], editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy|arbitration policy]] describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
If you wish to participate in the 2023 election, please review [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023/Candidates|the candidates]] and submit your choices on the '''[[Special:SecurePoll/vote/{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2023|poll}}|voting page]]'''. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{tlx|NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. <small>[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 00:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</small>
</div>
</div>
<!-- Message sent by User:Cyberpower678@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2023/Coordination/MM/02&oldid=1187132049 -->
== ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message ==
<div class="ivmbox " style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center; ">
<div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;">[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|40px]]</div>
<div class="ivmbox-text">
Hello! Voting in the '''[[WP:ACE2024|2024 Arbitration Committee elections]]''' is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on {{#time:l, j F Y|{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2024|end}}-1 day}}. All '''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024#Election timeline|eligible users]]''' are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The [[WP:ARBCOM|Arbitration Committee]] is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration|Wikipedia arbitration process]]. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose [[WP:BAN|site bans]], [[WP:TBAN|topic bans]], editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy|arbitration policy]] describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
If you wish to participate in the 2024 election, please review [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024/Candidates|the candidates]] and submit your choices on the '''[[Special:SecurePoll/vote/{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2024|poll}}|voting page]]'''. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{tlx|NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. <small>[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 00:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</small>
</div>
</div>
<!-- Message sent by User:Cyberpower678@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Coordination/MM/02&oldid=1258243447 -->
== WikiProject Christianity ==
I was wondering if you are still interested in [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity|WikiProject Christianity]].
Please respond to this within a week if you are still interested in helping out. If you do not respond within a week you will be classified as inactive on the WikiProject member list. [[User:Sheriff_U3|Sheriff U3]] | [[User talk:Sheriff U3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sheriff_U3|Con]] 23:13, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
:I do a limited amount of editing, and you can keep me on the list. I have actually been doing more on the Spanish Wiki than the English one lately. [[User:Mikeatnip|Mikeatnip]] ([[User talk:Mikeatnip#top|talk]]) 00:21, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
::Ok thanks for letting me know. I am cleaning through the member list as a lot of people on there are blocked, have left Wikipedia, or are no longer interested in the project. And it is fine that you do a limited amount, I am not judging off of amount of edits or activity level! Hope to see you around! [[User:Sheriff_U3|Sheriff U3]] | [[User talk:Sheriff U3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sheriff_U3|Con]] 06:17, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
== ''Ichthus'' Special Edition ==
<!-- BANNER ACROSS TOP OF ISSUE -->
<table width="100%" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="10" style="border-style:ridge ; border-width:0.9px; border-color:#B621FE; background-image: linear-gradient(#0BA5BD,#583ADF)>
<td height='10' colspan='3'></td>
<td width='125'>[[File:P Christianity Gold.svg|220px]]</td>
<td>
<div style="text-align: center;">
<span style="font-family: Bebas Neue ; color:#ffffff; font-size:30pt;text-align:center;"><p>{{underline|'''A Special Edition of'''}}</p></span>
<span style="font-family: Bebas Neue ; color:#ffffff; font-size:56pt;text-align:center;"><p>{{underline|'''<big>I</big>CHTHUS'''}}</p></span>
</div>
</td>
<td width='125'>[[File:Logo-uac.svg|120px|WikiProject Christianity]]
<div style="font-family:Mate SC;font-size:15px;color:black;text-align:center;background-image: linear-gradient(to right, #ffdddd, #583ADF);">'''Special Edition'''</div>
</td>
</table>
<!-- LEFT-HAND SIDE -->
<div style="float:left; width:49%;">
{{large|'''Project Resurrection!'''}}<br>
<small>By [[User:FarmerUpbeat|FarmerUpbeat]]</small>
WikiProject Christianity is being revitalized! After an initiative led by [[User:Sheriff U3|Sheriff U3]] to categorize participants as active or inactive, as well as organizing roles for those who are active, WP:X members are hopeful for the future of the project as we move into a new era. Any questions about this may be directed to [[User_talk:Sheriff U3|Sheriff U3]] as we move into this new era of the WikiProject!
WikiProject member
[[User:FarmerUpbeat|FarmerUpbeat]] has been selected as the new newsletter editor, and greets the readers of ''Ichthus'' with benedictions.
This has been a special edition of ''Ichthus'', official newsletter of WikiProject:Christianity. A '''full edition''' will come in April, stay tuned!
<!-- Article here -->
</div>
<!-- RIGHT-HAND SIDE -->
<div style="float:right; width:49%;">
{{large|'''Scripture Verse'''}}<br>
{{Blockquote
|text=Restore us, O LORD God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved.
|author=[[Psalm 80|Psalm 80:19]], NRSVue
}}
<!-- Article here -->
{{large|'''Help wanted!'''}}<br>
We're looking for writers to contribute to ''Ichthus''. Do you have a project that you'd like to highlight? An issue that you'd like to bring to light? Post your inquiries or submission [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Christianity/Outreach/Newsroom|here]].
</div>
<div style="clear:both; width:100%;">
<!-- BOTTOM -->
-----
<div class="center"><small>''Ichthus'' is published by [[WP:X|WikiProject Christianity]] • Get answers to questions about Christianity [[WT:X|here]]<br>Discuss any of the above stories [[WT:WikiProject Christianity/Outreach/Newsroom|here]] • For submissions contact the [[WT:WikiProject Christianity/Outreach/Newsroom|Newsroom]] • Unsubscribe [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Christianity/Outreach/Full_content_delivery|here]]<br>Delivered: 22:49, 5 March 2025 (UTC)</small></div>
</div>
<!-- Message sent by User:Queen of Hearts@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Christianity/Outreach/Full_content_delivery&oldid=1278301047 -->
== [[Wikipedia:The World Destubathon|The World Destubathon]] ==
Hello. You're invited to participate in [[Wikipedia:The World Destubathon|The World Destubathon]]. We're aiming to destub a lot of articles and also improve longer stale articles. It started today on Monday June 16 and will run until Sunday July 13. There is over $3300 going into it, with $500 the top prize. If you are interested in winning something to save you money in buying books for future content, or just see it as a good editathon opportunity to see a lot of articles improved for subjects which interest you, sign up on the page in the participants section if interested. Even if you can only manage a few articles they would be very much appreciated and help make the content produced as diverse and broad as possible!♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 18:01, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
| |||