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This all reads a bit like advertising copy for the ISE commercial product. Is there someone out there who actually knows Eiffel, but also knows something else and can give a more realistic appraisal. (Yes, it does look like a nice language, but there are other nice languages, and this stuff is just over the top.)

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-- Geronimo Jones.

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(This comment is now largely obsolete due to much work on the page. Thanks guys.) -- Geronimo Jones.

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== Archives ==

I have taken out a lot of preachiness in the recent changes to the "facism" section and tried to make it more factual; however, it was so absurd to begin with (and I am such an Eiffel advocate) that it may require more work.

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== External links modified ==

Also, I removed unsubstantiated and inflamatory claims that Eiffel compilers are somehow "smarter" than C++ compilers. The discussion of moving runtime analysis to compile time presumably refers to the SmartEiffel compiler's ability to devirtualize method calls, and even to inline dynamically dispatched methods. However, this alone (while clever) is no great compiler breakthrough---Self and Smalltalk have had devirtualization for years---and it certainly doesn't allow SmartEiffel to claim that it's "smarter" than C++ compilers (some of which, in fact, can also do some devirtualization). On the contrary, SmartEiffel produces C code, and therefore leaves all the difficult aspects of compilation to the C++ compiler (eg. optimization, register assignment, etc.).

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== Renaming mechanism flaw ==

Dear editors:

In 2022, it was discovered that the Eiffel's renaming mechanism has

serious semantic flaws, please refer to the following repo and pdf doc

for the report, and code example to demonstrate the semantic issue:

https://github.com/joortcom/eiffel_rename

https://github.com/joortcom/eiffel_rename/blob/main/eiffel_rename.pdf

Please verify the new findings as reported there, and update the

wikipedia page of the Eiffel language.

BTW, you can also check the following repo for a new design pattern

that solved the diamond problem of multiple inheritance cleanly and

generally, based on the above findings:

https://github.com/joortcom/DDIFI

Happy editing!

Regards. [[User:Joeyz44|Joeyz44]] ([[User talk:Joeyz44|talk]]) 15:53, 21 June 2025 (UTC)