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== Greatest MomentsCriticism ==

There should be a Criticism section. This article appears to be the product of advocates and enthusiasts. I know that there are people who have a negative attitude towards this show because I am one. I hope somebody will come forward to contribute such a section. Unfortunately, I avoid the show at all costs and so have only limited knowledge. What I would have to say would be limited to my view that it is a show produced by and for people who have essentially no sense of humor, low intelligence, a love for political and social conformity and for crude antics. I hope somebody can flesh out the negative aspects. ---[[User:Dagme|Dagme]] ([[User talk:Dagme|talk]]) 02:01, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

It would be nice to include a list of the show's great moments. For example, Madeleine Albright bragging about her ability to bench press, and the continuing series of faux pas over the area code of the devil last year. [[User:Uucp|Uucp]]

== What is the Format Actually Like? ==

I nominate the one about GWB saying his greatest achievement of his presidency was catching a 7 lb-perch. Then the story got complicated... [[User:Wilsonbond|Wilsonbond]] 21:19, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

*Some thought it was funny, others thought he was probably right. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 00:35, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I've never seen Wait Wait before, and I would like to see an actual description of the game show.

There was an awfully amusing time when the song "She's Gone" was played, and a contestant had to answer who the song was in reference to. The correct answer was Harriet Meyers, whose nomination had been recently withdrawn, but the contestant answered Rosa Parks :( . [[User:Googleaseerch|Googleaseerch]]

If I were to give the format of Jeopardy!, I would say "Three contestants each pick categories that contain questions they must answer, with each question worth a certain amount of money. The player that answers the question first gets that much money added to their score and picks the next question's category and value. A wrong answer has the question's value deducted from the player's score. The "questions" are actually in the form of statements and the contestants must "answer" them by forming questions, such as "Who is George Washington?" The player with the highest score at the end wins.

While I love the show, and I like the idea... I don't think a "Greatest Moments" section would really fit with in the NPOV policy of Wikipedia. --[[Special:Contributions/208.106.65.48|208.106.65.48]] ([[User talk:208.106.65.48|talk]]) 03:03, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Would someone please do that clearly and concisely for Wait Wait...? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.125.40.26|24.125.40.26]] ([[User talk:24.125.40.26|talk]]) 16:22, 31 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== "coordinates in conjunction" ==

== Show length and "Bluff the Listener" ==

[[User:Omizzle77|Omizzle77]] recently added information about [[We Interrupt this Week]]. I'd appreciate a clarification of what the last sentance of his edit is supposed to mean:

Is the show really one hour long? I don't hear it on the radio but subscribe to the podcast, which is usually about 45 minutes. Current show is 46:15. (ETA: PBS and NPR shows tend to follow the 1/4 hour time unit model, i.e. all shows last 15, 30 or 60 minutes, with a bit of time reserved for interstitial announcements. 46 minutes doesn't seem to follow that model; if the show is an hour, that's a lot of time left for the interstitial announcements....)

"...as the first game show ever to be televised on the [[Public Broadcasting System]], which coordinates in conjunction with [[NPR]]."

Bluff the lIstener: Do the panelists really invent the fake news stories themselves? I have the impression that they are written by staff writers and just read by the panelists.

As far as I know, NPR and PBS are seperate entities, with some natural crossover. Is this sentence erroneously trying to claim that they are the same entitiy, or is it saying PBS has a hand in coordinating only this program? I'm afraid I can't tell what the message was supposed to be well enough to correct it... [[User:CS42|~CS]] 22:30, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[[User:JShook|JShook]] | [[User talk:JShook|Talk]] 15:07, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

* The show that airs is roughly 44-46 minutes, but live taping of the shows can last around 1 1/2 hours or more. The edited version cuts out a number of panelist questions and some of the Lightning round questions, along with any pick ups, redos, or recording of additional material to cover when things change between taping (Thursday nights) and airing (Saturday and/or Sunday). One example was the taping when Scotland was holding their vote for independence, they recorded a bit in case the vote went "Yes" and another bit in case the vote went "No".

:Incoherency seems to be only one of its problems.

* As far as I know, the (non-true) bluffs are written by the panelists and, over the years, common themes and trends can be picked out for each panelist. For example: Mo Rocca has used the surname "Bagnoli" a number of times, Paula Poundstone has used one surname multiple times, etc. --[[User:Questionlp|questionlp]] ([[User talk:Questionlp|talk]]) 01:11, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

:My read is that the writer is trying to claim some sort of direct connection between PBS and NPR -- a common mistake -- but a bigger concern is the claim that WWDTM is based directly on this earlier TV show. I've never heard this nor of the show, and I'd like to some outside source for it.

* This seems a good place to discuss Lightning Fill-in-the-Blank length. Contestants have 60 seconds starting when Peter starts the first question. Around 42-44 seconds later (as measured on a June 2022 show) there is a gong signaling the end, but the host can continue the question and the panelist can complete the answer, in more or less than 60 seconds. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MrArtC|MrArtC]] ([[User talk:MrArtC#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MrArtC|contribs]]) 16:26, 25 June 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I've removed it pending a cite (like, say, a Doug Berman interview saying so). --[[User:Calton|Calton]] | [[User talk:Calton|Talk]] 23:44, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

==We Interruptadditional thissource Week andfor the NPR/PBSarticle confusion==

I apologize for the confusion. What I was attempting to say was that NPR and PBS are linked in some way. Also, "We Interrupt this Week" was a PBS game show that I read about in "The Encyclopedia of TV Game Shows: Edition 3" and it had almost the same exact premise of WWDTM and it was carried on public broadcasting and since WWDTM is carried on public radio, I inferred that the shows must have some connection yet it was only an inference, so I think it was safe to delete it.

* https://web.archive.org/web/20090730034459/http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-090726-wait-wait-npr,0,2139904.story

== Merger with Other Articles ==

* https://web.archive.org/web/20090731041420/http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-090726-wait-wait-npr,0,2139904.story?page=2 — '''[[user:fourthords|<span style="color:#CC0000">fourthords</span>]] &#124; [[user talk:fourthords|=Λ=]] &#124;''' 20:16, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

== External links modified ==

Rather than merge this page with others, it would probably be easier just to create a category for Wait Wait Don't tell me in general

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

== "Select people who have appeared on the "Not My Job" segment" ==

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Why do we have this section? It adds little (nothing?) to our understanding of the subject, and it can never practically be complete. [[User:Uucp|Uucp]] 14:10, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120810204334/http://www.bbcamerica.com/wait-wait-dont-tell-me/ to http://www.bbcamerica.com/wait-wait-dont-tell-me/

*It is also getting larger by the week. Perhaps this should at least be a separate page, so it doesn't keep growing and taking over the page here? - [[User:Corporal Tunnel|Corporal Tunnel]] 17:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

**I say we just prune it for notability. ^{[[User:Lubaf|Thanks]],} _{[[User_talk:Lubaf|Luc "Somethingorother" French]]} 19:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

**We ''had'' just such a page (as a list) — I created it. It got merged into this article because I hadn't taken notes on who showed up for long enough for it to be much of a list. &nbsp;— [[User:AnnaKucsma|AnnaKucsma]] &nbsp; ([[User Talk:AnnaKucsma|Talk to me!]]) 03:04, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

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Perhaps we should un-merge the list from the article, now that the list has grown unwieldy. I think the process of merging in the first place was mostly adding stuff here and making a redirect at the site of the former list. If this is the case, than common sense would dictate we simply overwrite the redirect with a cut-and-paste from the current section. Of course, common sense isn't common in the real world and is less so online (and arguably less so on Wikipedia). &nbsp;— [[User:AnnaKucsma|AnnaKucsma]] &nbsp; ([[User Talk:AnnaKucsma|Talk to me!]]) 21:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

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Two-thirds of the article is now this worthless list. It should be given its own article, or converted into a category that tags the various people listed. [[User:Uucp|Uucp]] 15:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Cheers.—[[User:InternetArchiveBot|'''<span style="color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace">InternetArchiveBot</span>''']] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">([[User talk:InternetArchiveBot|Report bug]])</span> 06:24, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

:: I'm pretty sure any such catagory would be deleted, because of lack of notability. This isn't the sort of thing that catagories are for. An appearence on WW,DTM is not something that should be appearing in the articles for each person who has appeared -- it is a very minor aspect of their careers. A new article ''might'' work if it were comprehensive -- but an incomplete list may just get deleted or merged again.

:: As much as I like this show, I don't feel like a list of guests is encyclopediac content. I would prefer the list be culled for notability, or eliminated alltogether. [[User:CS42|~CS]] 16:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

== Jimbo Wales ==

And at least two editors, myself and whoever posted it originally, think it is just fine. So I have posted a message on Mr. Wales' page and asked him to present his opinion here. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 01:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

:He is already listed in the section [[Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!#Select people who have appeared on the "Not My Job" segment|Select people who have appeared on the "Not My Job" segment]]. The bulleted paragraph for Not My Job in the body of the article should briefly illustrate what the segment is. There are many other much more well-known guests with more memorable appearances. Not that Jimbo's appearance was uninteresting, but adding it on there does little to enhance the description of the segment of the show. [[User:Bkonrad|older]] ≠ [[User talk:Bkonrad|wiser]] 02:07, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

:While it's of minor interest to Wikipedians, the inclusion seems kind of superfluous when the article is presented by [[Answers.com]] or any of the other many, many Wiki-mirrors. The addition as it was written basically stated: "...And Jimbo was there, too." It may be noteworthy enough to appear on our article on [[Jimbo Wales]], but he wasn't so noteworthy a guest that he bears separate mention in the article outside of the list of other Not My Job appearances. [[User:GeeJo|<span style="padding : 0px 1px 1px 1px; border : 1px solid #809EF5; cursor: wait; background: #FFFFFF ; color: #99B3FF">GeeJo</span>]] ^{[[User talk:GeeJo|(t)]]}⁄_{[[Special:Contributions/GeeJo|(c)]]} <small>&bull;&nbsp;17:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)</small>

::All the more reason to have some reference to Wales in there, so that blind-ripoff sites will advertise his name. If it's already elsewhere in the article, maybe it doesn't matter. At any rate, I don't much care about this triviality any more. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 18:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

== citation needed tags ==

i have removed the fact tags for items that are either self evident and/or are verifiable by listening to the show.

;An Internet Destination Called Carlslist

:self evident you won't find any before the date specified.

;NPR Geek Game

:just how is something 'not happening' verified?

;Wait Wait... Television

:self evident you won't find any before the date specified.

;Live audience at Chicago's Chase Auditorium in the Chase Tower

:self evident you won't find any before the date specified.

--[[User:emerson7|emerson7]] | [[User talk:emerson7|Talk]] 00:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

* All of those are excuses for violating the foundational [[WP:Policy|Policy]] [[WP:No original research|No original research]]. There can be exceptions to policy, but these fig leaves do not remotely approach adequate grounds for that. <br>--[[User:Jerzy|Jerzy]]•[[User talk:Jerzy|t]] 23:12, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br>

==[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|Articles for deletion]] nomination of [[:List of Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! guests (2005)]]==

<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|42px]]</div>An editor has nominated [[List of Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! guests (2005)]] for [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deletion]]. Opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns.

In light of the fact that, in previous discussion (see above), editors suggested breaking out a list of WWDTM guests in a separate article, those who view and edit this article might want to weigh in on the proposed deletion. (From my point of view, the reasons for proposing deletion are strange. It's especially strange that that article, in particular, is targeted for deletion, while the other eleven years' pages are apparently notable enough to remain. To remove only the year 2005 would leave a hole in the record for no discernible reason.--[[User:HughGRex|HughGRex]] ([[User talk:HughGRex|talk]]) 23:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

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== Criticism ==

There should be a Criticism section. This article appears to be the product of advocates and enthusiasts. I know that there are people who have a negative attitude towards this show because I am one. I hope somebody will come forward to contribute such a section. Unfortunately, I avoid the show at all costs and so have only limited knowledge. What I would have to say would be limited to my view that it is a show produced by and for people who have essentially no sense of humor, low intelligence, a love for political and social conformity and for crude antics. I hope somebody can flesh out the negative aspects. ---[[User:Dagme|Dagme]] ([[User talk:Dagme|talk]]) 02:01, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

== What is the Format Actually Like? ==

I've never seen Wait Wait before, and I would like to see an actual description of the game show.

If I were to give the format of Jeopardy!, I would say "Three contestants each pick categories that contain questions they must answer, with each question worth a certain amount of money. The player that answers the question first gets that much money added to their score and picks the next question's category and value. A wrong answer has the question's value deducted from the player's score. The "questions" are actually in the form of statements and the contestants must "answer" them by forming questions, such as "Who is George Washington?" The player with the highest score at the end wins.

Would someone please do that clearly and concisely for Wait Wait...? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.125.40.26|24.125.40.26]] ([[User talk:24.125.40.26|talk]]) 16:22, 31 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Show length and "Bluff the Listener" ==

Is the show really one hour long? I don't hear it on the radio but subscribe to the podcast, which is usually about 45 minutes.

Bluff the lIstener: Do the panelists really invent the fake news stories themselves? I have the impression that they are written by staff writers and just read by the panelists.

[[User:JShook|JShook]] | [[User talk:JShook|Talk]] 15:07, 17 June 2012 (UTC)