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The result was '''delete'''. [[User:Davewild|Davewild]] ([[User talk:Davewild|talk]]) 14:44, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
===[[Fibonacci hyperbolic functions]]===
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Ostensibly this subject has many sources in poor-quality academic journals. However, after combing through them, I found that sources which mention "Fibonacci hyperbolic functions" do so only in passing, and all seem to refer to papers from [[Chaos, Solitons and Fractals|Chaos, Solitons, & Fractals]], which is a rag. I can't find reliable sources which discuss them in any depth. [[User:Sammy1339|Sammy1339]] ([[User talk:Sammy1339|talk]]) 21:21, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
* '''delete'''. Hardly qualifies as an article as it does not explain their significance or give any context as to why they are important, it's just a list of formulae and image. But looking at the definitions they are just trivial transformations of the hyperbolic functions by the golden ratio, so entirely uninteresting.--<small>[[User:JohnBlackburne|JohnBlackburne]]</small><sup>[[User_talk:JohnBlackburne|words]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">[[Special:Contributions/JohnBlackburne|deeds]]</sub> 12:40, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
*'''KEEP'''- A search with google on "hyperbolicfibonacci functions " comes up
https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=cr&ei=-AVOVaKTCY6OyASNqoD4CQ#q=hyperbolic+fibonacci+functions&spell=1
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''notability'' is clearly none issue. --[[User:唐戈|唐戈]] ([[User talk:唐戈|talk]]) 13:23, 9 May 2015 (UTC).
[[Fibonacci hyperbolic functions]] is an article requested by
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Missing_science_topics/Maths10#Fib Wikipedia:Missing science topics/Maths10]
;Published on Official Fibonacci Quarterly
[http://www.fq.math.ca/Issues/34-2.pdf Fibonacci Quarter--Official Fibonacci Society]
*'''Delete''' per Blackburne. Trivial modification of standard hyperbolic functions. There is no useful encyclopedic content. [[User:Sławomir Biały|<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Sławomir Biały</span>]] ([[User talk:Slawekb|talk]]) 16:25, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
*'''Comment'''--It is listed in '''''CRC Concise Encyclopedia of Mathematics''''',you are bloody ignorant
https://books.google.ca/books?id=aFDWuZZslUUC&pg=PA1038&dq=hyperbolic+fibonacci+functions&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mQtOVYWuCo2nyAS3goCoCg&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=hyperbolic%20fibonacci%20functions&f=false
and Mathworld,
[[Wikipedia:Coverage of Mathworld topics#F]]
Can you explain why content listed in Mathworld should not appear on wikipedia
*'''Commment''' Provide valid reason an article requested by Wikipedia Mising Science topis should be deleted and remain missing ???????????
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Missing_science_topics/Maths10#Fib Wikipedia missing science topics]--[[User:唐戈|唐戈]] ([[User talk:唐戈|talk]]) 17:10, 9 May 2015 (UTC).
*'''Comment'''-{{U|唐戈}}-sorry you can't vote more then once. [[User:Wgolf|Wgolf]] ([[User talk:Wgolf|talk]]) 16:43, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per [[WP:TNT]]. Regardless of the possible notability of this topic, the content of the article is a pointless explosion of formulas and plots that adds no value to the encyclopedia. —[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 20:36, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
::Having looked at one of the sources I can see where these are from. The similarity of [[Binet's formula]] to the [[hyperbolic functions]] means this straightforward transformation turns the latter into the former, and lets you e.g. generate [[Fibonacci numbers]] from them, and so plug them into formulae/properties of those numbers. But that’s the sum total what‘s interesting about them, it could easily be covered by a sentence in one or both of these articles, and none of it appears in this article. So yes, [[WP:TNT]].--<small>[[User:JohnBlackburne|JohnBlackburne]]</small><sup>[[User_talk:JohnBlackburne|words]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">[[Special:Contributions/JohnBlackburne|deeds]]</sub> 15:05, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If this is kept, it desperately needs lots of [[TeX]] copy-editing. Stuff like this:
::: <math> \cdots +(2/5)*\sqrt(5)*(5+\sqrt(5))*ln(1/2+ (1/2)*\sqrt(5))^2 * x^2/(\sqrt(5)+1) + \cdots </math>
: that ought to look like this:
::: <math> \cdots +\frac 2 5 \sqrt 5 (5+\sqrt 5)\ln\left(\frac 1 2 + \frac 1 2 \sqrt5\right)^2 \cdot \frac{x^2}{\sqrt{5}+1} + \cdots </math>
: Note <math>\sqrt(5)</math> versus <math>\sqrt 5</math>, <math>ln</math> versus </math>\ln</math> the vulgar asterisk, and other things. [[User:Michael Hardy|Michael Hardy]] ([[User talk:Michael Hardy|talk]]) 04:10, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
::Even after your cleanups that formula needs help. Notice, for instance, that the subexpression
:::<math>\frac 2 5 \sqrt 5 (5+\sqrt 5)</math>
::can be simplified to
:::<math>2+2\sqrt 5.</math>
::To me this sort of problem is illustrative of why we shouldn't just blindly paste computer-program output into Wikipedia without understanding it. —[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 05:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Science|list of Science-related deletion discussions]]. —[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 20:40, 9 May 2015 (UTC)</small>
::Actually there is also a factor of <math>1 + \sqrt{5}</math> in the denominator of that term. So the subexpression
:::<math>\frac 2 5 \sqrt 5 (5+\sqrt 5) \cdot \frac{1}{1 + \sqrt{5}}</math>
::can be simplified to
:::<math>2</math>.
:: --[[User:Sammy1339|Sammy1339]] ([[User talk:Sammy1339|talk]]) 14:16, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
:::Yes, even worse. This is a fine example of [[Mathematics Made Difficult]]. —[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 20:32, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' as essentially [[WP:OR|original research]]. While it is certainly useful and interesting, I don't see an encyclopedia article on the topic. 16:19, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
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