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== Requested move at [[Talk:Udûn#Requested move 8 August 2024]] ==

== Episode Nav/Info Box ==

[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Udûn#Requested move 8 August 2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. [[User talk:Reading Beans|<span style="color:#333">'''Reading Beans'''</span>]] 19:56, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

I've created a [[Template:Television episode|template]] for the infobox, based off of the one here. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 01:27, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

== Requested move at [[Talk:The Man Behind the Curtain#Requested move 20 August 2024]] ==

==Infobox==

[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:The Man Behind the Curtain#Requested move 20 August 2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. [[User:Aprilajune|Aprilajune]] ([[User talk:Aprilajune|talk]]) 02:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

I placed a copy of the infobox at [[Wikipedia:Infobox]], so make certain any changes to it are reflected there as well. [[User:TUF-KAT|Tuf-Kat]] 04:34, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

== Requested move at [[Talk:Squid Game season 2#Requested move 9 January 2025]] ==

==Related Project==

[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Squid Game season 2#Requested move 9 January 2025]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. [[User:D.18th|<b style="color:#008080; text-shadow:0.1em 0.2em 0.1em #FFF8E7">𝙳.𝟷𝟾𝚝𝚑</b>]] [[User talk:D.18th|<b style="color:#008080; text-shadow:0.1em 0.2em 0.1em #FFF8E7"><small>(𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔)</small></b>]] 12:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

I am the creator of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Buffy|WikiProject Buffy]] and would like to use this guide to organize Buffy/Angel episodes. I am adding a link to my project. Are there plans to turn this entire page format into a template? Thanks! [[User:CheNuevara|Che Nuevara]] 9:13P 24 April 05

== Re: Breakaway (Space: 1999) ==

== Inactivity ==

The plot section on [[Breakaway (Space: 1999)]] is currently 2,036 words 12,909 characters. It has been this way for more than a decade. I have tagged it as long plot. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 00:54, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Even though this Project has been Inactive for a long time, I say it should not be killed of just yet. I say this in light of recent renewed activity in [[Portal:Television]], [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television|WikiProject_Television]] and several other Television pages. It seems that with the increasing popularity of certain Key TV series, people are finally starting to come together on formatting issues etc. It will just take a while longer before this trickles down to the Individual Episode level. [[User:TheDJ|The DJ]] 04:02, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

== Requested move at [[Talk:The Movie#Requested move 20 April 2025]] ==

== Templates ==

[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:The Movie#Requested move 20 April 2025]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''^{[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]} 23:09, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

== Unnamed episodes with number only, but no context ==

I found the more general {{tl|Episode navigation}} bottom article navigator. Do we advertise it's use here?

The same kinda goes for {{tl|TVep}}.

Recently some Neighbours episodes popped up on my redirect changes watchlist after being [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Episode_6188&diff=prev&oldid=1298782547 moved], and then [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Episode_6188&diff=prev&oldid=1298782547 moved back]. [[User:DaniloDaysOfOurLives]] stated that it was "standard practice" to just name the article [[Episode 6188]] and not [[Neighbours episode 6188]] or [[Episode 6188 (Neighbours)]] or similar. I assume this has been discussed before, but I can't find it after a brief look around here. It doesn't seem to be mentioned in any [[WP:NCTV]] guidelines. I understand that there is probably no other Episode 6188 of any other show that's going to be notable enough to have an article, but I think it is such a vague title that it fails parts of [[WP:AT]] including "Recognizability – The title is a name or description of the subject that someone familiar with, although not necessarily an expert in, the subject area will recognize" and "Precision – The title unambiguously identifies the article's subject and distinguishes it from other subjects". An episode number without the context of the show name doesn't satisfy these [[WP:CRITERIA]]. [[User:The-Pope|The-Pope]] ([[User talk:The-Pope|talk]]) 03:32, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

== Help needed in Justice League Unlimited ==

If somebody is interested in [[Justice League Unlimited]], please go to the [[List of Justice League episodes]] to help fix that page, some users refuse to create article per episodes, even though they know the existence of this project and well developed pages like those.--[[User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow|T-man, the wise]] 02:20, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

== Naming episodes ==

Ok, can we add some guidelines for naming TV eps [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Doctor_Who&diff=33612891&oldid=33551922 this is basically my criteria] But if that's going to be valid (or not) it should be explain tn this page (the article, not in the talk page).

My vote is for '''Not using parenthesis''' clarification, if there is nothing else called that way (as everything else works on wikipedia if there is no disambiguation). That's also informative, as readers can infer whether the title of the episode comes from something else or it is a cultural reference..--[[User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow|T-man, the wise]] 08:23, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:I note that almost all "major" TV shows follow the title of the episode with the name of the show in parenthesis. See [[List of Prison Break episodes]] and [[List of Star Trek: Voyager episodes]] as two good examples. It is only in the Dr. Who episodes that there seems to be a lack of consensus. Despite the issue of disambiguation, the unique factor to consider is that all TV episodes should be treated alike, as some titles are more anbiguous than others and the use of the parenthesis will leave no doubt. -- [[User:Dyslexic agnostic|Dyslexic agnostic]] 08:29, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, but there IS a consensus in Dr. Who, and it's ''against patenthesis''.--[[User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow|T-man, the wise]] 08:39, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I just got green light from Nehrams2020 to write the naming guideline. I came up with this:

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===Naming===

If there is no disambiguation, the name of the article should be the episode title written with the corresponding capital letters.

Examples (from [[Lost]]):

*[[All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues]]

*[[Raised by Another]]

When disambiguation is needed, the name will also include a parenthesis clarification with the title of the series.

Examples:

*[[The Romans (Doctor Who)]]

*[[Tabula Rasa (Lost)]]

This helps to identify cultural references in episode titles.

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...how ever I'm not a native English speaker, if I missed something, go ahead, and modify it (get crazy, haha :P).--[[User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow|T-man, the wise]] 22:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[[WP:TV-NC]] says: "Where an article is created about a single episode, add the series name in parentheses if there are other articles by the same name, e.g. Bart the Genius, but The Sting (Futurama). For Star Trek episodes, always add the series name." - If you wanna clarify that, fine by me. Both in TV-NC and in the Wikiproject TV-eps. - [[User:TheDJ|TheDJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]] • [[WP:TV|WikiProject Television]]) 00:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

== Batman: The Animated Series ==

The single-episode articles for these are severely lacking. Could the members here please lavish some care onto them? Ta. --[[User:Jamdav86|Jamdav86]] 20:49, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

== Significance in arc ==

Can someone tell me what "Significance in arc" means? Specifically the "arc" part?? This is a phrase I've never heard. Seems like on the EUReKA episode pages it is being used to call out significant events that are part of the story line, but the "arc" part is throwing me. Should a more obvious term be used?--[[User:Ptdecker|P Todd]] 21:06, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Arc is parlance used to discuss the stories that arch over multiple episodes. In Eureka, the mention of arc presupposes that there will be come conspiracy theory. The X-files is one of the first shows to use the term "arc" in discussing the stories, but it is now in fairly common usage.[[User:Transcendentalstate|Transcendentalstate]] 23:18, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

:For simplicity: [[Story arc]]. &ndash; [[User:Someguy0830|Someguy0830]] ([[User talk:Someguy0830|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Someguy0830|contribs]]) 23:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

::I now see the arc light and understand. Thank you both.--[[User:Ptdecker|P Todd]] 04:49, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

== Need an Opinion ==

[[User:TrackerTV|TrackerTV]] has created a barnstar proposal relating to Broadcasting. I would really appreciate it if interested people could give an opinion [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Barnstar_and_award_proposals/New_Proposals#TV.2FRadio_Barnstar here].--[[User:Leroyencyclopediabrown|Ed]] 20:38, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

:'''Comment:'''This barnstar may be used in assoiation with your Wikiproject.[[User:Leroyencyclopediabrown|Ed]] 21:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

== List of Justice League episodes ==

{{main|List of Justice League episodes}}

People are taking consensus against the conventions in this page. Votes are needed to keep the work up in that page. These people (I think most of them don't even get any work done on the article, just criticize) don't want neither expand the synopsis on the episode list nor create articles per episode and it happens in most cases. --[[User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow|T-man, the wise]] 06:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Infobox shouting match ==

There is currently a five part shouting match going on over at [[Template talk:Infobox Television episode#Background Colour Tag]] over whether or not there should be an option to adjust the infobox color scheme. if your interested please weigh in. <span style="-moz-border-radius: 5px; border: solid 2px #F98A2F; background-color: #FFE496; color=#5994C5">[[User:Argash|'''&nbsp;Argash&nbsp;''']] | [[User_talk:Argash|'''&nbsp;talk&nbsp;''']] | [[Special:Contributions/Argash|'''&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;''']]</span> 20:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

== Trivia sections ==

I noticed the project is listing trivia as one of the standards for the articles. I think this is a bad idea, as trivia sections are generally frowned upon in Wikipedia. Any article that goes through peer review these days is asked to remove the trivia sections by integrating relevant points into the prose and deleing irrelevant points. [[User:Jay32183|Jay32183]] 14:42, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== merge / become taskforce / work group of WikiProject TV? ==

I just posted this on [[WT:LOE]] and thought I would mention it here as well:

:''Since there's not a lot of episode list-specific activity, I was wondering maybe we should "merge" ourselves back with our parent project, [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Television|WikiProject Television]]. Pretty much the main reason for LOE was to come up with a style-guideline for lists of episodes. We could merge some of our pages to WP:TV and then set up a dedicated sub-page with it's own talk page. I think we should do the same with [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Television episodes|WikiProject Television episodes]]. There's a lot of ideas and such that I've wanted to bring up, but it can be hard because they cross into a few different areas, including lists of episodes. Better integration with our parent project would still allow us to do all the things we've been doing independently, but allow for easier collaboration and make things easier to find. Thoughts?''

-- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 20:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== Project Directory ==

Hello. The [[WP:COUNCIL|WikiProject Council]] is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory]]. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

*[[User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory]],

*[[User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2]],

*[[User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory]],

*[[User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory]],

*[[User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory]],

*[[User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States]], (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)

*[[User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory]], and

*[[User:Badbilltucker/Science directory]]

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at [[User:B2T2/Portal]], listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory.

The three columns regarding [[:Category:WikiProject assessments|assessment]], [[:Category:WikiProject peer reviews|peer review]], and [[:Category:Wikipedia collaborations|collaboration]] are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters.

It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. [[User:Badbilltucker2|B2T2]] 22:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

:Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory|directory]] pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. [[User:Badbilltucker2|B2T2]] 13:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== Requesting comments for Lost episodes ==

Requesting comments for [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lost/Episode guidelines#Name suffix]] - a debate over the use of disambiguation titles for episode articles of a TV show when no disambiguation is needed. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 20:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

:The current naming convention listed is "Where an article is created about a single episode, add the series name in parentheses if there are other articles by the same name, e.g. Bart the Genius, but The Sting (Futurama)." Is that what you're looking for? [[User:Jay32183|Jay32183]] 20:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

:It came from here by the way:[[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Episode articles]] [[User:Jay32183|Jay32183]] 20:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Update: the discussion has now evolved: '''[[Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)#RfC Episode Article Naming conventions]]''' - a debate over the use of disambiguation titles for episode articles of a TV show when no disambiguation is needed. Also, when disambig titles are used for episode articles should they be (ShowName) or (ShowName episode). All are invited to join the discussion and give their input. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 02:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== Episode naming and dates. ==

I can think of only one series this applies to, and that is Battlestar Galactica, however, there may be more. Can anyone point me in the direction of a convention for naming episodes when two or more series have the same title, but were made at different times? Currently, for example, we have [[Take the Celestra (Battlestar Galactica)]] and [[Act of Contrition (Battlestar Galactica)]], both using the usual naming convention, except that the former is from the original 1978 series and the latter from the 2004 remake. Only [[The Hand of God (Battlestar Galactica)]] is disambiguated any further because that episode title occurs in both versions.

My own personal suggestion, as a starting point for discussion, is for the above examples to become, respectively, [[Take the Celestra (Battlestar Galactica 1978)]] and [[Act of Contrition (Battlestar Galactica 2004)]]. Note that I am not a big fan of making double parenthethis in article names, which is why I did not put them around the years, but if this is an issue, perhaps a hyphen instead? --[[User:BlueSquadronRaven|<font color="blue">'''BlueSquadron'''</font><font color="black">'''Raven'''</font>]] 22:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

:It's being discussed at [[Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(television)#RfC_Episode_Article_Naming_conventions]] right now. - [[User:Peregrinefisher|Peregrinefisher]] 22:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== Multi-part episodes ==

I thought I'd check in here, as I've just had to start a deletion review over an episode article that was deleted on the grounds that, according to guidelines, episodes with more than one part should be included entirely within the same article. Can anyone cite or otherwise verify this for me, or is it a load of hooey? --[[User:BlueSquadronRaven|<font color="blue">'''BlueSquadron'''</font><font color="black">'''Raven'''</font>]] 22:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

:I remember reading it once somewhere. But multi-part episode refers specifically to episodes that have a common plot across multiple time divisions. Distinct plots that pick up where the previous one left off get distinct articles, even if titled part one and part two. Also, this is not grounds for deletion, it would be grounds for a merger. [[User:Jay32183|Jay32183]] 22:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

== Game shows/news show/wrestling shows ==

Since I am not a member of this WikiProject, what is the conensus on episode articles. Should shows like game shows or wrestling shows have episode guides or yearly/season guides (i.e. "Deal or No Deal season 2" or "WWE RAW 2003")? What is the consenus for these? [[User:TJ Spyke|TJ Spyke]] 04:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

:You should probably start with a page that lists a bunch of episodes, by season ideally, and then worry about episode articles later. - [[User:Peregrinefisher|Peregrinefisher]] 05:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

::Thses are cases where you won't have the details to make individual pages, and a list won't be meaningful. With game shows or news shows you'd just have a list of airdates, no titles and no summaries. Generally I'd say don't make episode articles for these types of shows. [[User:Jay32183|Jay32183]] 05:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

:::A good guidline is at [[Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Television_episodes#Conclusions]]. - [[User:Peregrinefisher|Peregrinefisher]] 05:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

::::That is a good general guideline for TV series, but the question with game shows is "what are you going to talk about episode by episode?" If you have a decent answer to that question then go for it. I don't have an answer to that question so I, personally, would not bother with an episode list or individual episode articles. [[User:Jay32183|Jay32183]] 06:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)