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== Opening vs. ending credits ==

==Music==

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== Move discussion in progress ==

==Title==

There is NO exclamation point in the title of this film. It never should have been moved here from the proper ___location ''[[I Know Where I'm Going]]''. Please move it back to its proper heading. Thank you. [[User:The FinalWord|The FinalWord]] 05:29, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

There is a move discussion in progress on [[Talk:I Know Where I'm Going (song)#Requested move 3 October 2019 |Talk:I Know Where I'm Going (song)]] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:I Know Where I'm Going (song) crosspost --> —[[User:RMCD bot|RMCD bot]] 19:16, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

:Every one of the external pages listed at the bottom of the article gives the title with an exclamation point. Several of them include images of film posters and/or video covers, also with the exclamation point. Do you have any counter-evidence? --[[User:Paul A|Paul A]] 06:25, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Laird of Kiloran ==

::I agree. Almost every reference I've seen includes the exclamation point. The title caption used in the film reads: ''i know where i'm going!'' [[User:Jihg|Jihg]] 18:23, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

The article states that Sir Robert Bellinger is the Laird but he is only renting from the actual Laird, i.e. Torquil. [[User:Raaronson|Raaronson]] ([[User talk:Raaronson|talk]]) 00:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

:::Hello, I'm new to Wikipedia but I think I can claim to know a bit about Powell and Pressburger films. I run the [http://www.powell-pressburger.org Powell & Pressburger Pages].

:Fixed. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 01:26, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

== Substandard plot changes ==

:::The title as given on screen in the film definitely has an exclamation point at the end. It is also all given in lower case and in quotation marks but many systems don't like titles like that so it is usually written as ''I Know Where I'm Going!'' (or just IKWIG). [[User:SteveCrook|SteveCrook]] 01:25, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

IP, your changes are not improvements; many are your interpretations, others are ungrammatical or slangy. E.g.:

==Scorsese quote==

The Scorcese quote mentioned on this page, is from a documentary included in the Criterion DVD release of the film. I'd source it, but have no idea how to refer to this documentary correctly. And, by the way, I totally agree with him. I thought I'd heard of all the film masterpieces, and then saw this one, which I'd never heard of. It just blew me away. -- <small>unsigned comment by [[User:66.35.36.132|66.35.36.132]] 05:16, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)</small>

* "Anxious to learn her reaction before they go their separate ways, Joan asks Torquil for a parting kiss." Joan wants to figure out her own reaction? Interpretation.

: I've added the reference to it. -- [[User:SteveCrook|SteveCrook]] 12:56, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

* "it only applies to the Laird of Kiloran, imagining it is Bellinger." Why would she think that an Englishman was the laird?

* "the high-spirited Catriona Potts". [[WP:POV]] wording.

* "talk Joan into her senses", "Catriona piques him", "elderly dame"? Weird, unidiomatic wording.

* "Torquil drats all"? What English dialect is that from?

[[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 07:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

==Comedy==

Genre-labeling is usually a fool's game, especially with as sophisticated a work of art as IKWIG, but here goes. "Romance film" seems quite a pale and inadequate category. It is most certainly a comedy, and not merely because of a few jokes throughout. Its ending confirms its overall romantic & comedic tone. Various of the linked reviews concur, including Criterion and TCM. [[User:Cloonmore|Cloonmore]] ([[User talk:Cloonmore|talk]]) 03:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

:Since the original goal seems to have been to get the plot section down to a reasonable length, I've taken my own stab at shortening it. Hopefully this will resolve the issue. [[User:InspectorMendel|InspectorMendel]] ([[User talk:InspectorMendel|talk]]) 10:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

: How do you define a comedy? I use the [http://uk.imdb.com/updates/guide/genres IMDb genre definitions]. That says that to be considered a comedy, ''virtually all scenes should contain characters participating in humorous or comedic experiences.'' There are some jokes and a few comedic scenes in it but they are a tiny percentage of the whole. What's comedic about the ending? I don't often see many people laughing at the ending when it's screened. Just because a few other sites label it a comedy (I see that Criterion does but I don't see it on the TCM site), is that any reason to propagate the description? It's probably best to leave out any attempt at genre labelling -- [[User:SteveCrook|SteveCrook]] ([[User talk:SteveCrook|talk]]) 05:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

::Possibly Cloonmore is referring to comedy in the [[Shakespearean comedy|Shakespearean sense]], i.e. with a happy ending. The film doesn't violate anything in [[Romantic comedy films]] and it has as much (or little) humour as some of the examples given: ''[[Shakespeare in Love]]'' and ''[[Roman Holiday]]''. I certainly cringe at the idea of using IMDb's definition. I dunno, it could go either way; I just don't know where I'm going. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 20:18, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

:::Yes, it's certainly comedy in the Shakespearean sense, as all ends happily, but it's also a romantic comedy film in the absolute best sense. See the "description" section of the [[romantic comedy film|Wikipedia article]], which fits ''IKWIG'' to a T. The IMDb definition is just plain wrong. Even such wonderful comedy classics as ''[[City Lights]]'' and ''[[The Shop Around the Corner]]'' wouldn't fit the IMDb definition. SteveCrook, comedy isn't measured by how often you belly-laugh. (But does the ending of ''IKWIG'', with Joan's parading return and the wry terms of the curse read by the narrator, not evoke at least a smile?) BTW, if you click on "genre" on the left side of the TCM page, you'll see the reference to comedy. [[User:Cloonmore|Cloonmore]] ([[User talk:Cloonmore|talk]]) 00:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

::::I see what you mean, using the arcane definition that anything that isn't a history or a tragedy must be a comedy. But if you told most people that a film was a comedy, they would expect to have quite a few laughs or at least to be smiling, giggling and tittering a lot. Hence the IMDb definition. There's a difference between "humorous or comedic experiences" and those that generate belly-laughs. So do you go for a definition as most people would understand it or for the technically more correct but not so widely understood definition? There are elements of the Wikipedia definition of [[romantic comedy film]] that seem to fit it. But I think it's a better fit to the Wikipedia definition of a [[romance film]]. Yes, there are usually smiles at the end of a screening, smiles and wry grins amidst the tears. But I'm not really a fan of genre classifications either. I don't know many films that really fit a one or two word definition. I leave it up to you to leave it as it is, change it or delete it entirely -- [[User:SteveCrook|SteveCrook]] ([[User talk:SteveCrook|talk]]) 06:28, 5 May 2009 (UTC)