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Hello everyone, I am working to develop one or two sets of Papua New Guinea-related [[WP:DYK]]s to run on 16 September, which marks the 50th anniversary of Papua New Guinean independence. If you are writing or expanding an article related to Papua New Guinea, if it is submitted after 16 July (and ideally no later than 2 September) please let me know (or list it at [[WT:DYK]], where hopefully I will create a talkpage section on 16 July). It will be up to the promoters to decide which hooks are used, but any others will still be able to go through the normal DYK process. Best, [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 02:11, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

== Rules? ==

Hi! Really sorry I am unable to understand the rules completely, maybe due to not being an English native as well as new to participate in competitions. I would appreciate if someone explains me better.

* '''Dates range:''' The competition dates are during July and September. Can I nominate any article on which I have contributed before these dates, or should it be within this range only?

* '''Developing countries:''' I am from Pakistan. But I have contributed to some other countries' articles as well. If I think that an article from US is underlooked, can it be nominated as well, or not?

* '''Nomination:''' How to nominate specifically? Should it always be for a GA, FA, or can it be lower than B-class as well? I mean, what is the criteria of the article to be nominated here?

Hope for a kind and helpful response, thank you! [[User talk:M.Billoo2000#top|'''M.''']] [[User:M.Billoo2000|Bill'''oo''']] 09:02, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hi [[User:M.Billoo2000|M.Billoo2000]], thanks for the questions, and no need to apologize! Just leaving a courtesy link to this year's scoring rules ([[WP:DCWC25/S]]) for the benefit of people reading this discussion.

:# Submissions must have been approved/promoted during the contest period to be eligible for points. For example, if you take an article to FAC, it should be promoted between July 1 and September 30 (and submitted to the DCWC within a week) to count for points.

:#: As a side note, this isn't the first time I've heard a variation of your question this year, so I'll ping the {{@DCWC|a=|p=}} so we can discuss clarifying the language. Is there anything you'd suggest to make the rules clearer on this point?

:# As stated in {{slinkno|Wikipedia:Developing Countries WikiContest/2025/Scoring#General rules}}, submitted articles need to be "{{xt|{{em|closely associated}} with or have a {{em|demonstrable significance}} to}}" one of the listed countries to be eligible. A submission related to the United States would not be within the scope of the contest. Also, {{em|you}} do not need to be from a developing country in order to participate! :)

:# The processes mentioned in the scoring rules are a complete list of eligible submission types. Articles B-class and below can be submitted if they appear in the [[WP:DYK|Did you know?]] or [[WP:ITN|In the news]] sections of the [[Main Page]]. I'm happy to elaborate if you'd like more details about how to nominate at any of these venues.

:I hope that helps, and don't hesitate to let us know if you have any other questions! <span class="nowrap">—[[User:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''TechnoSquirrel69'''</span>]]</span> <small>([[User talk:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''sigh'''</span>]])</small> 09:42, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

::@[[User:M.Billoo2000|M.Billoo2000]] Well for example, if you've nominated a GAN before the contest had started though it was approved during the contest, it'd apply. Though if they were approved before the competition starts, it wouldn't apply. [[User:Arconning|Arconning]] ([[User talk:Arconning|talk]]) 10:38, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Thank you so much for elaboration. I am signing up, and looking up for what I can present as best as I can. But please do not mind if I fail to do so. {{smiley}} [[User talk:M.Billoo2000#top|'''M.''']] [[User:M.Billoo2000|Bill'''oo''']] 11:14, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

== Invitation to Haiti-related articles ==

Hi, all! The last DCWC began my interest in Haiti-related articles, and since then, I have fully revamped [[WP:WikiProject Haiti]]. You'll notice that Haiti is worth bonus points as one of the "least developed" countries. That makes sense; it might be among the most imperialized countries in the world, which has led to repeated [[Duvalier family|despotic dictatorships]], [[Haitian independence debt|wealth siphoning]], [[List of revolutions and coups d'état in Haiti|coups]], and [[United States occupation of Haiti|occupations]]. Still, Haiti is a beautifully mountainous country, with a melting pot of culture and religion and a history full of hard-working authors, journalists, philosophers, painters, community organizers, farmers, sportspeople, and so on...

Well, please know that I will gladly review any DYKs or GANs about Haiti-related articles. If you are interested or don't have many plans for the contest, consider helping out! [[User:Averageuntitleduser|Averageuntitleduser]] ([[User talk:Averageuntitleduser|talk]]) 20:10, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

== Pre-Columbian Indigenous Figures ==

Hello! I was thinking of working on the article for [[Anacaona]], an Indigenous Taíno woman, for this contest. She was from the chiefdom of [[Jaragua, Hispaniola|Jaragua]], which was primarily located in what is now Haiti (specifically from the area that would become the town of [[Léogâne]]), but with parts in the Dominican Republic as well. Would she be closely-related enough to either country to be included within the scope of this contest? If so, what country would I submit her under (or could I submit her under both)? [[User:Spookyaki|Spookyaki]] ([[User talk:Spookyaki|talk]]) 06:46, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks for your question, [[User:Spookyaki|Spookyaki]]! It appears to be verifiable that the subject was born and lived in present-day Haiti, so feel free to submit it under that flag. It looks like a very interesting topic in great need of improvement! :) <span class="nowrap">—[[User:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''TechnoSquirrel69'''</span>]]</span> <small>([[User talk:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''sigh'''</span>]])</small> 07:50, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

== Points system ==

I understand how the points work, but what do the Abbreviations mean? [[User:Theeverywhereperson|<span style="background-color: orange; color: darkblue">Theeverywhereperson</span>]] ([[User talk:Theeverywhereperson|talk here]]) 10:17, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

:Hey [[User:Theeverywhereperson|Theeverywhereperson]], which abbreviations are you referring to? If it's the process initialisms (FA, GA, etc.), they are expanded and linked at {{slinkno|Wikipedia:Developing_Countries_WikiContest/2025/Scoring#Scores}} of the scoring page. In general, if you see an abbreviation you're unfamiliar with, you can find it [[WP:ABC|on this page]] or [[Special:Search|search]] for it with the prefix ''WP:''. Let me know if you have any other questions! <span class="nowrap">—[[User:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''TechnoSquirrel69'''</span>]]</span> <small>([[User talk:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''sigh'''</span>]])</small> 10:22, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

== Just a question about GAs ==

the page for [[WP:GA]] says you must be in the top five editors for it to not count as a drive-by nom. Does this contest follow by that rule? Because the contest says merely copyediting isn't enough. But what if I did manage to get into top 5 editors by just copyediting? Will it still count as a drive by nom and thus [[WP:gaming the system]] by the contest's standard? Just asking this because one of my pending GA submissions ([[Xuanwu Gate Incident]]) is exactly like that. It's a GA quality article somehow sitting at B class still so I got myself into top 5 editors by copyediting to submit it for GA once again. [[User:Yelps|<b style="font-family:helvetica;color:green">Yelps ᘛ⁠⁐̤⁠ᕐ⁠ᐷ </b>]]<b style="font-family:helvetica;border:transparent;padding:0 9px;background:linear-gradient(#810011,black);color:#19443C;border-radius:6px">[[User talk:Yelps|critique me]]</b> 15:50, 3 July 2025 (UTC)

:Hey [[User:Yelps|Yelps]], thanks for your question! The contest has somewhat stricter criteria than the [[WP:GAN|GAN]] process on this point. Since you appear to have [[xtools:articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/Xuanwu_Gate_Incident#tool-authorship|less than 2% authorship]] on this article, I don't think that would meet the threshold set by the "{{xt|All reviewed content must have been worked on significantly by you}}" language in [[Wikipedia:DCWC25/S|the scoring rules]]. Let me know if you have any questions! <span class="nowrap">—[[User:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''TechnoSquirrel69'''</span>]]</span> <small>([[User talk:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''sigh'''</span>]])</small> 06:08, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

::Got it. But then how strict is the contest being? Should I be the author of atleast 5% of an article to be eligible? [[User:Yelps|<b style="font-family:helvetica;color:green">Yelps ᘛ⁠⁐̤⁠ᕐ⁠ᐷ </b>]]<b style="font-family:helvetica;border:transparent;padding:0 9px;background:linear-gradient(#810011,black);color:#19443C;border-radius:6px">[[User talk:Yelps|critique me]]</b> 06:48, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

:::This is something the coordinators look at on a case-by-case basis — the scoring rules intentionally leave out any numerical thresholds for this, so I'm unable to provide any here. I would look at the spirit of the law rather than the letter; the same line of the rules states that we generally prefer that you be the primary author (or close to that) for any article you submit. For [[Xuanwu Gate Incident]], it already seems to be fairly developed and 86% of the article has been written by the primary author, so it is unlikely you'll be able to submit it to the DCWC. However, if your GAN [[the Old Elm]] passes, [[xtools:articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/The_Old_Elm#tool-authorship|you have clearly written the majority of its content]] and could thus submit it. I hope that clarifies things! <span class="nowrap">—[[User:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''TechnoSquirrel69'''</span>]]</span> <small>([[User talk:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''sigh'''</span>]])</small> 07:12, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

::::Understood! I guess I'll work on [[Cuisine of Pará]] to GA status once I have ample time (hopefully next week!) seeing I turned the article from a state in need of copyedit and having no citations to a decent-ish article. [[User:Yelps|<b style="font-family:helvetica;color:green">Yelps ᘛ⁠⁐̤⁠ᕐ⁠ᐷ </b>]]<b style="font-family:helvetica;border:transparent;padding:0 9px;background:linear-gradient(#810011,black);color:#19443C;border-radius:6px">[[User talk:Yelps|critique me]]</b> 07:31, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

:::::Good luck! <span class="nowrap">—[[User:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''TechnoSquirrel69'''</span>]]</span> <small>([[User talk:TechnoSquirrel69|<span style="color: #0b541f;">'''sigh'''</span>]])</small> 07:55, 4 July 2025 (UTC)