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Based on the discussion above as there has not been much activity, should we have the festivals be placed into explanatory footnotes ("'''Explanatory footnotes'''"), or placed into the venue column on the tour date table ("'''In-Table'''")? [[User:HorrorLover555|HorrorLover555]] ([[User talk:HorrorLover555|talk]]) 21:17, 4 April 2025 (UTC)}}
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1) Should the articles of any NBA players say that they are often considered one of the greatest players of all time?
 
: Example: [[Hakeem Olajuwon|[Hakeem] Olajuwon]] is widely considered one of the greatest basketball players of all time.
 
2) If the answer to the previous question is yes, what standard should be used? Note: this question is '''optional'''
 
: 2a) Every [[NBA 75th Anniversary Team|NBA 75]] player is listed as one of the greatest.
: 2b) The following list of basketball players:
:: [[Bill Russell]]
:: [[Wilt Chamberlain]]
:: [[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar]]
:: [[Larry Bird]]
:: [[Magic Johnson]]
:: [[Hakeem Olajuwon]]
:: [[Michael Jordan]]
:: [[Shaquille O'Neal]]
:: [[Kobe Bryant]]
:: [[Tim Duncan]]
:: [[LeBron James]]
: 2c) The statement is only included if sources discussing the player's legacy commonly state that that player is one of the greatest in the history of basketball, or use equivalent superlative language.
:: Example of sourcing for the claim of [[Bill Russell]] being one of the greatest of all time: [https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/31/sport/bill-russell-nba-legend-dies-spt-intl/index.html NBA legend], [https://abcnews.go.com/US/nba-legend-bill-russell-dead-88/story?id=87711171 the greatest winner in basketball history], [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-russell-dies-age-88-celtics-legend-11-time-nba-champion/ is widely considered one of the greatest basketball players of all time], [https://www.bbc.com/sport/basketball/62372000 basketball great], [https://apnews.com/article/bill-russell-nba-obit-48db4e1f37deb6e6574263c9f42dee46 NBA great], [https://x.com/SInow/status/1553793920978518017 one of the greatest players of all-time], [https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34323568/boston-celtics-great-bill-russell-11-nba-champion-dies-88 the ultimate winner].
:2d) Any other criteria; if this option is selected, please do not simply give a different list of basketball players, but rather a different standard from which the inclusion or exclusion of a given player can be assessed through application of some common criteria.
Context: Various historical NBA players have been called "one of the greatest", "the greatest of all-time", or "the greatest at a position" by the press, magazines, books, former players, experts, etc. These terms are very subjective in nature and cover a 75+ year history, but can be sourced none-the-less. Discussions have ranged from the terms being vital to non-encyclopedic, from leaving the term in a player legacy section to prominently being displayed in the lead to not using the term at all. Please help us out with a yes or no on the term "greatest" in the lead section and the reasoning behind it. Thanks.
 
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[[User:Ladtrack|Ladtrack]] ([[User talk:Ladtrack|talk]]) 17:08, 4 April 2025 (UTC)}}
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