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== Why no section about missing graphemes? ==

I don't know if it would be manageable, but Unicode clearly does not have all commonly used symbols. A simple example is the very commonly used 'slash marks' used to count. Most reading this will be familiar with the sequence /, //, ///, ////, and <s>////</s> with the crossmark (strike-through) diagonal (top left to bottom right) rather than horizontal. (This is typical in the USA, I understand European convention is slightly different). I request the editors to consider the addition of a list of missing (but documented) symbols.[[Special:Contributions/40.142.183.146|40.142.183.146]] ([[User talk:40.142.183.146|talk]]) 11:49, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

:Unicode's non-inclusion of tally marks is covered in {{slink|Tally marks|Unicode}}. I don't think it's a good idea to include it also in this article. That would open the door of listing every proposal that has not yet been accepted. [[User:Indefatigable|Indefatigable]] ([[User talk:Indefatigable|talk]]) 15:42, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

:I also oppose this idea. The set of unencoded symbols is open-ended and may exceed the number of encoded symbols. There would also be no way to determine ''which'' unencoded symbols merit mention. [[User:Drmccreedy|DRMcCreedy]] ([[User talk:Drmccreedy|talk]]) 16:01, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

== Proposed new writing systems to be encoded into Unicode 16 ==

Unicode 16 is set to release in September 2024. I think the following (con)scripts definitely need to be encoded:

* Chữ Việt Trí - an alphabet invented by Tôn Thất Chương in 2012 for Vietnamese language. It's still nicer than Latin-based Quoc Ngu and needs wide recognition as the Shavian and Hangul did.

* Add support for Quikscript.

* Add extra missing runes from Baconsthrope and Sedgeford and Armanen runes

* Possibly add something more.

[[Special:Contributions/94.180.80.9|94.180.80.9]] ([[User talk:94.180.80.9|talk]]) 07:31, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

:Take a look at Unicode's FAQ for [http://www.unicode.org/faq/char_proposal.html Submitting Successful Character and Script Proposals]. Wikipedia isn't affiliated with The Unicode Consortium so requests here won't be seen or acted upon by the people who can actually add characters/scripts to the Unicode Standard. [[User:Drmccreedy|DRMcCreedy]] ([[User talk:Drmccreedy|talk]]) 14:39, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

== Combining macron and acute in text referencing them separately ==

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::Moving to a reference wasn't my idea directly, as I can see it either way. Per your second point, I would actually handle this by adding additional lines for those extra notes. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">[[User:Remsense|<span style="color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>[[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="color:#fff">'''论'''</span>]]</span> 17:53, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

:::@[[User:Drmccreedy|Drmccreedy]] I think I've finished iterating on the design for now in response to feedback here and at the Village Pump—I'm still not totally sure how/whether to display the default footnote and the PDF code chart reference, but other than that I think it's just about ready to consider deploying. Any further thoughts? <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">[[User:Remsense|<span style="color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>[[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="color:#fff">'''论'''</span>]]</span> 05:01, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

== Unicode BMP Status ==

According to the Unicode Roadmap, the status is not categorised. I’ve tried to categorise them: here’s the result:

0000-058F Most basic LTR scripts

0590-08FF RTL scripts

0900-109F Most Asian and Indian scripts and languages

10A0-10FF Georgian (unique part)

1100-167F Larger scripts, andincluding AmericanUCAS, Ethiopic and scriptsHangul

1680-16FF Historical scripts

1700-1CFF Most Asian scripts, somewhat European

1D00-1FFF Latin and other basic LTR scripts

2000-2BFF Set of symbols, including punctuation and math and currency

2C00-2CFF LessLatin, commonGlagolitic LTR(I scriptsdon't know how to categorize them)

2C80-2E7F African scripts and most LTR scripts

2E80-9FFF CJK scripts, including Japanese, Hangul Jamo and ideographs

A000-A4FF Asian scripts

A500-A7FF Most historical,LTR medievalScripts andincluding the Medieval, African scriptsand Asian scripts

A800-ABFF Most Asian scripts

AC00-D7FF Hangul / Korean

D800-F8FF Surrogates & Private Use

F900-FFFF Mixed scripts, especially alternative or presentation forms
[[User:MarcoToa1|MarcoToa1]] ([[User talk:MarcoToa1|talk]]) 01:57, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:I'm not sure where you are going with this. It looks like original research, which [[WP:NOR|isn't allowed in Wikipedia articles]]. [[User:Drmccreedy|DRMcCreedy]] ([[User talk:Drmccreedy|talk]]) 14:34, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:There seems to be a table like this at [[Plane_(Unicode)#Basic_Multilingual_Plane|BMP]] that is where you want to go. [[User:Spitzak|Spitzak]] ([[User talk:Spitzak|talk]]) 15:18, 27 May 2025 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Banovercheckcross|Banovercheckcross]] ([[User talk:Banovercheckcross#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Banovercheckcross|contribs]]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->