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[[User:Giacontigers|Giacontigers]] ([[User talk:Giacontigers|talk]]) 12:10, 6 February 2022 (AEDT)

== Totals check ==

{{ping|Frietjes}} One other quick question: often this module will be used to show how teams rank from different groups, for example: [[UEFA Euro 2016#Ranking of third-placed teams]]. However, then the totals check will give a number of warnings when previewing an edit that the wins/losses, goals for/against, etc. do not total each other. Is there any way the totals check feature could be disabled when groups are present? Would be really appreciated if possible! Thanks, [[User:S.A. Julio|S.A. Julio]] ([[User talk:S.A. Julio#top|talk]]) 20:48, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:S.A. Julio|S.A. Julio]] try adding {{para|notracking|yes}} to the table. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 21:07, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

::{{re|Nthep}} The only issue is that there are hundreds of such tables, having a simpler way of disabling the totals check would be nice. I would say almost all tables with the 'group' column do not need a total check. [[User:S.A. Julio|S.A. Julio]] ([[User talk:S.A. Julio#top|talk]]) 21:17, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

:::The test to display total checks could be set to depend on either of the {{para|show_groups}} or {{para|notracking}} parameters without too much difficulty (I think). But there would need to be a way to allow total checks to be shown, if wanted, on tables with groups so the logic would need to allow that.

:::There's probably more investigation needed into how many tables there are that use groups and how many of those don't need total checks. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 21:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

== This module interfering with {{tl|efn}} on {{tl|notelist}} ==

See for example [[NCAA Season 6 basketball tournaments]]. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 01:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

:If tried using <code>|group=</code> but it doesn't solve the issue. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 01:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

::Do you mean that you don't want the notes to appear under the group B table and, instead, appear in the notes section at the end of the article? [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 09:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

:::Yeah. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 14:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

::::The module automatically add a notelist equivalent to {{tl|notelist}} / {{tl|notelist-la}} so don't use <code>|note_XXX=</code>, instead use {{tl|efn-ua}} (or any of the other options) and the corresponding {{tl|notelist-ua}} [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 16:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::That's noted. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 19:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

::::::Thanks. Using {{tl|efn-ua}} and {{tl|notelist-ua}} worked. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 19:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

== Winning percentage ==

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:::::::That's more or less how it looks like; see for example [[2020–21 NBA G League season#Regular season]]. Winning percentage is used primarily on [[Module:Sports table/WL]] (not WDL) for basketball and baseball. In these sports, the "Pld" column is denoted as "GP" (or games played). Another sport that uses winning percentage but has draws (or tied games) is American football, but North American based leagues do not use this module except for that one instance in the [[NBA G League]] during covid. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 21:47, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::::To think about it, this can also be applied to WDL as both baseball and American football have tied games and use winning percentages, it's just that the value of tied games have changed through time in some leagues. Also, the ties column is after losses, or WLT, not WDL. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 21:54, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Nthep}}, update on this? The examples on your sandbox looks great. Other leagues also have a similar PCT statistics; see [[2024–25 NBL season#Ladder]] (Australia), that actually uses percentages rounded off to the nearest hundredths. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 21:04, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

::@[[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] sorry, it's gone on a bit of a back burner. I hit a snag that I haven't worked out yet. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 21:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

See:::No for example [[NCAA Season 6 basketball tournaments]]worries. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 0121:3338, 621 JanuaryMay 2025 (UTC)

== Edit request 11 June 2025 ==

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'''Description of suggested change: Add "Exclusion" on result column header for Module:Sports table/Volleyball'''

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== GD/PP and Pts/PCT headers ==

{{TextDiff|1=From "Promotion, qualification or relegation"|2=To "Promotion, qualification, relegation or exclusion"}} [[User:D.18th|<b style="color:#008080; text-shadow:0.1em 0.2em 0.1em #FFF8E7">𝙳.𝟷𝟾𝚝𝚑</b>]] [[User talk:D.18th|<b style="color:#008080; text-shadow:0.1em 0.2em 0.1em #FFF8E7"><small>(𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔)</small></b>]] 11:06, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:[[File:X mark.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now''': please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests#Planning a request|before]]''' using the {{Tlx|Edit template-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ETp --> If this has already been discussed, then please link to that discussion. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&thinsp;,&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|^{put'er&nbsp;there}]]&nbsp;<small>13:09, 11 June 2025 (UTC)</small>

::This seems to be relevant on [[2025 FIVB Men's Volleyball Nations League]] in regards to the US team being "excluded" in the 2026 Nations League. Aside from it being unexplained (and unreferenced) on why this is so, this seems to be extraordinary, akin to [[Bury F.C.]] being expelled from the Football League some years ago. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 14:21, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

== sticky-header - Template-protected edit request on 17 July 2025 ==

Can the headers of these columns (and any others not currently editable) be made to be changeable, such as the current <code>|postitle=</code> or <code>|team_header=</code>?

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Eg. <code>|ptstitle=</code> or <code>|gd_header=</code> (something of this nature) [[User:KeneRink63|KeneRink63]] ([[User talk:KeneRink63|talk]]) 04:56, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Could {{tl|sticky-header}} be implemented in the module so that column headers stick to the top of the screen as the table's data is scrolled. This would be highly recommended, especially for long tables like [[2024–25_UEFA_Champions_League_league_phase#League_phase_table]].

For comparison, the implementation of the sticky header has also been done in a similar module {{tl|Medals table}}, see {{diff2|1240638416|diff}}. [[User:Miria~01|<b style="background-color:white; color:black">Mir</b><b style="background-color:white; color:#EE3939">ia~01</b>]] ([[User talk:Miria~01|talk]]) 12:58, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please make your requested changes to the module's sandbox first; see [[Wikipedia:Template sandbox and test cases|WP:TESTCASES]].<!-- Template:ETp --> – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 17:41, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

::{{diff2|1301246279|Diff: 21:29, 18 July 2025}} in [[Module:Sports table/WDL/sandbox]]

::<syntaxhighlight lang=lua>table.insert(t,'{| class="wikitable sticky-header'..sort_text..'" style="text-align:center;"\n')</syntaxhighlight>

::The CSS for loading the sticky header would leave it up to the user to decide whether they want the sticky header or not, as it is done by adding the {{tl|sticky header}} in testcases, see {{diff2|1301245648|diff in testcases}}. [[User:Miria~01|<b style="background-color:white; color:black">Mir</b><b style="background-color:white; color:#EE3939">ia~01</b>]] ([[User talk:Miria~01|talk]]) 21:49, 18 July 2025 (UTC)