Content deleted Content added
EdwardsBot (talk | contribs)
ClueBot III (talk | contribs)
Tag: Replaced
 
(61 intermediate revisions by 11 users not shown)
Line 2:
 
= Wall =
 
== '''1''' Introduction ==
 
Hello! Please post your [[Wikipedia:Questions|questions]], [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#Editing comments|comments]], [[Wikipedia:Barnstars|barnstars]], and [[Wikipedia:Whacking with a wet trout|trouts]] ('''QCBT''') at the bottom of the '''Talk''' section. Please remember to explain your barnstar or trout. Use "<nowiki>==</nowiki>" to introduce each new section. For example, "<nowiki>== New section ==</nowiki>" adds a section with title "New section"; add your QCBT below the header. Do not add your QCBT to the '''Wall''' section, as it is my section for announcements, apologies, and humor. I will add new '''Wall''' posts at the top to make them prominent. Please don't pester me with [[WP:TOPPOST]]: I obviously have a good reason for doing this, and I won't let guidelines that weren't made considering the possibility of user walls into account. Also, please don't reply to '''Wall''' posts; instead, add a new section in the '''Talk''' section titled '''Reply to wall post "[''wall post title'']"''' (replacing [''wall post title''] with the title of the post), and I will get back to you as soon as possible. Thank you for taking the time to read my talk page guidelines. Have a nice day! &ndash;<span style="font-size:15pt;font-family:american typewriter,inconsolata,monospace;text-shadow:1px 1px#DEDF65">[[User:Cup o' Java|Cup o' Java]]</span> ([[User talk:Cup o' Java|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Cup o' Java|contribs]]) 00:05, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 
= Talk =
 
== A belated welcome! ==
 
[[Image:Chocolate chip cookies.jpg|thumb|300px|Sorry for the belated welcome, but the cookies are still warm! [[File:Face-smile.svg|25px]]]]Here's wishing you a [[wikt:belated|belated]] [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia|welcome to Wikipedia]], Cup o&#39; Java. I see that you've already been around a while and wanted to thank you for [[Special:Contributions/Cup o&#39; Java|your contributions]]. Though you seem to have been successful in finding your way around, you may benefit from following some of the links below, which help editors get the most out of Wikipedia:
* [[Wikipedia:Introduction|Introduction]]
* [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|The five pillars of Wikipedia]]
* [[Wikipedia:How to edit a page|How to edit a page]]
* [[Help:Contents|Help pages]]
* [[Wikipedia:Article development|How to write a great article]]
Also, when you post on [[Wikipedia:Talk page|talk pages]] you should [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|sign your name]] using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post.
 
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedians|Wikipedian]]! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on {{#if: |[[User talk:{{{1}}}|my talk page]]|my talk page}}, consult [[Wikipedia:Questions]], or place {{tl|helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there.
 
Again, welcome! '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''<font color="green">[[User talk:Graham87|87]]</font> 04:27, 26 December 2012 (UTC) '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''<font color="green">[[User talk:Graham87|87]]</font> 04:27, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 
==Please do check your signature code==
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=531858919&oldid=531855776] - this is what it adds with your edits. [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 23:10, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
:Sorry if it seems as though I've been ignoring you. I've been very busy with work. I will get to cleaning up my signature as soon as possible. Don't worry about it. In the meantime, though, I still have to sign my posts, so here goes: <span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:american typewriter,inconsolata,monospace;text-shadow:2px 2px#DEDF65">&ndash;[[User:Cup o' Java|Cup o' Java]] </span>({{#iferror: {{#time:U| Jan 09, 2013 2:16 AM }}
|{{error|Error: first parameter cannot be parsed as a date or time.}}
|{{Time ago/core
|ago = ago
|time = Jan 09, 2013 2:16 AM
|auto_magnitude_num = {{#if:
|0<!-- Make sure the specified {{{magnitude}}} is used -->
|{{#expr:{{#ifexpr: floor( abs( {{#time:U}} - {{#time:U| Jan 09, 2013 2:16 AM }} ) / 120 ) | 1 | 0 }}+
{{#ifexpr: floor( abs( {{#time:U}} - {{#time:U| Jan 09, 2013 2:16 AM }} ) / 7200 ) | 1 | 0 }}+
{{#ifexpr: floor( abs( {{#time:U}} - {{#time:U| Jan 09, 2013 2:16 AM }} ) / 172800 ) | 1 | 0 }}+
{{#ifexpr: floor( abs( {{#time:U}} - {{#time:U| Jan 09, 2013 2:16 AM }} ) / 5356800 ) | 2 | 0 }}+
{{#ifexpr: floor( abs( {{#time:U}} - {{#time:U| Jan 09, 2013 2:16 AM }} ) / 63115200 ) | 1 | 0 }}
}}
}}
|min_magnitude_num = {{#switch:{{#if:
|{{{magnitude}}}
|{{{min_magnitude}}}
}}
|years = 6
|months = 5
|weeks = 4
|days = 3
|hours = 2
|minutes = 1
|seconds
|#default= 0
}}
}}
}}{{#ifeq:|yes|&#32;<span class="plainlinks">([{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} purge])</span>|}})
::Hi, you either need to do a basic signature (removing all formatting) for now, or change it now (not later), because it adds [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions&diff=prev&oldid=532125290 1,111 bytes] to every page you sign. This adds considerable headache to any conversation you enter. See also [[Wikipedia:SIGN#Length]]. Thanks and sorry. [[User:The ed17|Ed]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:The ed17|[talk]]] [[WP:OMT|[majestic titan]]]</sup> 05:41, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::I'm really sorry. I'll manually sign this post. I'll fix my signature by the time I make my next post, but I don't have the energy now to copy and paste my current signature into a document to preserve it. (By the way, don't be sorry! You're doing the right thing by notifying me of my mistake. Thank you.) [[User:Cup o' Java|Cup o' Java]]
::::Thank you. [[User:The ed17|Ed]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:The ed17|[talk]]] [[WP:OMT|[majestic titan]]]</sup> 05:55, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::Cup o' Java: your signature {{diff|Wikipedia talk:Be bold|prev|532119548|appears to contain templates}} and other markup making it significantly larger than 255 characters; please see [[WP:SIG#NT]]. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 12:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Hello again. I've changed my signature to simplify its code and improve its appearance. What do you think (both objectively and subjectively)? &ndash;<span style="font-size:15pt;font-family:american typewriter,inconsolata,bitstream vera sans mono,monospace;text-shadow:0px 0px 10px#10104D">[[User:Cup o' Java|Cup o' Java]] </span>[[File:Crystal_Project_java.png|27px]][[User_talk:Cup_o'_Java|talk]] 03:30, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
::::At exactly 255 characters it's within the size limit; but there are still two problems. One is the presence of an image, forbidden by [[WP:CUSTOMSIG#Images]]; the other is that there is a possible [[WP:CONTRAST]] issue between the blue colour of the link and the blue-grey shadow behind it. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 11:20, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::Alright. I've altered the shadow so it's the opposite of the average link color ''(normal+active+visited)/3'':<div style="color:#21209A">#21209A</div>on Wikipedia and provides more contrast for both the visually impaired and the general Wikipedia userbase. I've also removed the [[Java (programming language)|Java]] cup and added a miniature navigation bar. Is it free of defects? &ndash;<span style="font-size:15pt;font-family:american typewriter,inconsolata,monospace;text-shadow:1px 1px#DEDF65">[[User:Cup o' Java|Cup o' Java]]</span> ([[User talk:Cup o' Java|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Cup o' Java|contribs]]) 01:21, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::I think so. Some people might object to the large font though. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 09:17, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 
==Recent Edit==
 
Your recent edit at [[Wikipedia talk:Administrators]] was reverted (undone) because it actually erased a bunch of other users comments in that discussion and other sections on that page. Perhaps it has to do with your signature? [[User:Alanscottwalker|Alanscottwalker]] ([[User talk:Alanscottwalker|talk]]) 09:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:I don't remember doing that. Another user's editing conflict may have been handled incorrectly, but I don't recall deleting anyone else's content. Can you please link to the diff so I can see what I deleted and redo the edit without removing anyone else's content? [[User:Cup o' Java|Cup o' Java]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 13:13, 10 January 2013‎</span><!--Template:Undated-->
::{{diff|Wikipedia talk:Administrators|prev|532115711|Here it is}}. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 14:03, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Yes, none of that content was there when I was editing. I'll try to get to reentering the information. Thanks for letting me know! [[User:Cup o' Java]] 2013-01-10T19:33:00
::::I can't believe that none of it was there. Your edit was dated 9 January 2013, but you removed significantly older text - some was dated 7 January 2013. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 00:37, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::Please take my statement in good faith. Don't assume that I am lying to you and that I have some alterior motive. If the content I removed was there while I was editing, deleting it was just an accident. It is unnecessary to reply to my comment saying you don't believe what I'm saying is true. It is a sign of disrespect, and I believe everyone here on Wikipedia deserves respect whether or not it seems as though he/she is lying. [[User:Cup o' Java|Cup o' Java]] 2013-01-10T19:45:00
 
== VisualEditor newsletter for 21 August 2013 ==
 
{{sidebox
|text= [[File:VisualEditor-logo.svg|200px]]
|below='''Did you know?''' [[:mw:Parsoid|Parsoid]] is a tool that translates between the raw wikitext that Wikipedia articles are stored in, and the HTML/RDFa that VisualEditor uses on your screen. If you see chess pawn (♙) or snowman (☃) icons in an article, it usually means that Parsoid has encountered something confusing in the wikitext markup. Please report these problems to [[Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback]].}}
 
Both [[Wikipedia:VisualEditor|VisualEditor]] and [[:mw:MediaWiki 1.22/wmf12|MediaWiki]] were upgraded recently. For VisualEditor, this is the long-awaited post-[[Wikimania]] update with many bug fixes and enhancements. Work also continues on '''speed at opening and during use''', as well as on the bugs reported here and at other Wikipedias. The full report is [[:mw:VisualEditor/status#2013-08-15_.28MW_1.22wmf13.29|at Mediawiki]].
 
'''References''' are displaying properly, even when nested ({{bug|50749}}) or in image captions ({{bug|52427)}}. Reference lists are now always fully populated with references ([[bugzilla:50094|bug 50094]]). Firefox users can insert an existing reference in the first paragraph ({{bug|52159}}). Opera users no longer see corruption of categories when a reference was added ([[bugzilla:50385|bug 50385]]).
 
'''Stray spaces''' are being stripped from the start of paragraphs to end one of the common <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki> problems ({{bug|51462}}). We also fixed a round-tripping bug that caused desirable '''whitespace in templates''' (used to make templates more legible, e.g., by putting each parameter in an infobox on a separate line) to get corrupted ([[bugzilla:51150|bug 51150]]).
 
'''Wikilink handling''' was improved. Users are not allowed to create internal links to invalid titles (titles that are actually impossible due to limits on acceptable character combinations in titles, not redlinks) ({{bug|33094}}). You can extend wikilinks, but it won't do so over a wordbreak (like a space) (bugs [[bugzilla:49931|49931]] and [[bugzilla:51463|51463]]).
 
A handful of fixes to the user interface were made. The '''toolbar''' doesn't float over personal tools after opening a dialog or the inspector ({{bug|52441}}). Toolbars were also re-written to be collapsible/expandable, with room for more icons. Buttons in dialogs can now be activated using the {{key press|Tab}} and {{key press|Shift|Tab}} key commands ([[bugzilla:50047|bug 50047]]). This saves time for editors, because you don't need to take your hands off the keyboard to click a button. We fixed a handful of bugs that affected only certain articles or certain browsers, including toolbar buttons in Firefox ([[bugzilla:51986|bug 51986]]) and dialog panels that didn't always scroll correctly ([[bugzilla:51739|bug 51739]]). Bugs with undo/redo getting confused have been fixed ({{bug|52113}}).
 
'''Images''', in addition to getting references displaying correctly, also saw improvements with a set-empty {{para|link}} parameter no longer corrupted (51963). We corrected thumbnail images' display so that they look don't wrong in some contexts ([[bugzilla:51995|bug 51995]]). Inserted images no longer explicitly set their alignment, but instead inherit the default position in compliance with the Manual of Style ([[bugzilla:51851|bug 51851]]).
 
More '''edit notices, warnings, and metadata''' like information about [[Wikipedia:Pending changes|Pending Changes]] on an article now appear as appropriate ([[bugzilla:49699|bug 49699]]). When new articles are created, users are now shown the ''<newarticletext>'' message ([[bugzilla:51459|bug 51459]]). VisualEditor now handles templates that set "meta" items (like a category) and nothing else better ([[bugzilla:51322|bug 51322]]). If the database is locked when a user tries to save with VisualEditor, they now get a message telling them as such and an opportunity to try again, rather than a silent failure ([[bugzilla:51636|bug 51636]]).
 
When you '''save the page''', having the default preference set to "mark all my edits as minor by default" no longer overrides the setting in the save dialog ([[bugzilla:51515|bug 51515]]). If you open VisualEditor from a section edit link, the section's title will be pre-filled in in the edit summary box when you go to save it ([[bugzilla:50872|bug 50872]]). The size of the save dialog box in the Monobook skin has been fixed ([[bugzilla:50058|bug 50058]]). Also, wikipage content handlers like '''sortable tables''' are re-run automatically after saving ({{bug|51565}}).
 
A very early version of the '''mathematics equation editor''' is now available for testing on [[:mw:Mediawiki]]. If you would like to help improve the user interface for math editor, please test out the extension at [[:mw:Mediawiki:Sandbox]] and leave your comments directly at the discussion page for the [[:mw:User:Jiabao wu/GSoC 2013 Project Work/Math Node User Interface|Math Node User Interface]] at Mediawiki. You should be able to use your regular username and password should to login to Mediawiki.
 
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at [[Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback]] and other ideas at [[Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor]]. Thank you! [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] 17:41, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
<!-- EdwardsBot 0601 -->
 
== VisualEditor newsletter for September 5 ==
 
{{sidebox
|text= [[File:VisualEditor-logo.svg|200px]]
|below='''Did you know?'''
<p>You can search for images directly in VisualEditor. Click the media icon, which looks like this: [[File:VisualEditor - Icon - Picture.svg|24px]]
<p>Then type a few keywords into the search box. VisualEditor will search Commons for images or other files whose titles or descriptions contain those words, and will display thumbnail pictures of them for your review. Click ''one time'' on the image you want to insert in the article.
<p>For more details, read [[Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User guide#Editing images and other media files|VisualEditor's user guide]].}}
 
This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.
 
Officially, the problem with the link inspector not '''linking to a specific section''' on a page ([[bugzilla:53219|bug 53219]]) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.
 
A number of bugs related to '''copy-and-paste functionality''' were fixed ([[bugzilla:48604|48604]], [[bugzilla:50043|bug 50043]], [[bugzilla:53362|bug 53362]], [[bugzilla:51538|bug 51538]], among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".
 
In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<code><nowiki><ref/></nowiki></code>) ([[bugzilla:53345|bug 53345]]). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in [[bugzilla:50127|bug 50127]]. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed ([[bugzilla:53507|bug 53507]]).
 
'''Looking ahead''': The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).
 
If you are active at '''other Wikipedias''', the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the [[input method editor]] are ''not'' going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can [[:mw: VisualEditor/Portal/Localization|'''help with translating the documentation''']]. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at [[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|my talk page]].
 
For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at [[Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback]] and other ideas at [[Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor]]. Thank you! [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] [[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|(talk)]] 21:45, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
<!-- EdwardsBot 0612 -->