Module talk:Sidebar: Difference between revisions

Content deleted Content added
header, comment
m Archiving 1 discussion(s) to Module talk:Sidebar/Archive 7) (bot
(652 intermediate revisions by 86 users not shown)
Line 1:
{{ user:MiszaBot/config
{{talkheader}}
| maxarchivesize = 31K
| minthreadsleft = 4
| minthreadstoarchive = 1
| counter = 7
| algo = old(90d)
| archive = Module talk:Sidebar/Archive %(counter)d
}}
{{copied|from=Module:Sidebar|from_oldid=816157517|to=:incubator:Module:Wp/nod/Sidebar|to_diff=4304026}}
{{to do |inner=
* [[/Archive 5#Nomobile use]]
* [[/Archive 5#Make tables into divs instead|#Make tables into divs instead]]
* [[/Archive 5#Width auto and similar sidebars]]
}}
{{archives|search=yes|bot=MiszaBot II|age=90}}
{{Lua sidebar}}
 
== Should there be a way to automatically open up the relevant section of the sidebar? ==
==Glitch==
I am aware of the glitch in folowing articles. Working on it... --[[User:Coolcat|Cool Cat]] [[User talk:Coolcat|<sup>My Talk</sup>]] 13:40, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
* <s>[[G3 Free Trade Agreement]]</s>
* <s>[[G8]]</s>
* <s>[[The Troubles]]</s>
 
After [[Template:Feminism sidebar]] got reorganized, a bunch of transclusions no longer automatically expand the correct section. For example, the article [[Feminist theory in composition studies]] automatically expands the "Concepts" section even though the article is now listed under the "Theory" section. Something I realized is that expanding the section ''that contains a link to the current article'' might be something that could be done automatically, so that editors no longer have to manually specify the section to auto-expand on every article where a sidebar is included. [[User:PBZE|PBZE]] ([[User talk:PBZE|talk]]) 19:39, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
:Fixed... kida. There is a big chunk of white space tho... :) --[[User:Coolcat|Cool Cat]] [[User talk:Coolcat|<sup>My Talk</sup>]] 13:51, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 
== How get "alt" text for the image ==
==Text size==
How would I make a sidebar with the text one size up from the current Sidebar template? [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] 08:47, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 
In article [[Atlanta Compromise]], it is using an InfoBox [[Template:Nadir of American race relations]] .. that infobox has an image in it. How can I add "alt" text for the image, to assist visually impaired users of the encyclopedia? I couldn't find instructions for alt text in this module page. [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 01:39, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
==Hmm==
:{{replyto|Noleander}} [[Template:Nadir of American race relations]] has <syntaxhighlight lang=wikitext>{{Sidebar with collapsible lists
This seems to be getting used a lot for text that would be better off being integrated into the main text as a section or subsection. While this is an engaging layout tactic style in magazines and textbooks etc, I don't think it's useful for an encyclopedia article. [[User:Matt Crypto|&mdash; Matt <small>Crypto</small>]] 11:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
...
| image = [[File:Le Petit Journal 7 Oct 1906 (cropped).jpg|232px|class=notpageimage]]
...
}}</syntaxhighlight> and you would add the alt text inside that image specification using {{para|alt}}, see [[WP:EIS#Alt text and caption]]. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 12:57, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
::Great, thanks, that worked. [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 13:13, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
 
== PleaseTitle documentalways this templatelink-blue? ==
 
I noticed that when a wrapper of this template is called on the page the title parameter links to, the title renders as the link color despite not actually being a link. This doesn't align with the default behavior when a page links to itself (e.g.: [[{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]) or the behavior when a non-title link in a sidebar links to the page it's placed on. It's also ''possible'' that this violates the {{tq|Links should be clearly identifiable as links for readers}} clause of [[MOS:COLOR]] (it doesn't conform to the inverse, i.e. that non-links shouldn't appear as links).
I can't find this template under [[Wikipedia:Template messages]] -- it needs to be there so people know about it. (If it's already there and I missed it, please feel free to break a piano over my head.) Also, it could do with being put into an appropriate template category. — [[User:Johantheghost|Johan&nbsp;the&nbsp;Ghost]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Johantheghost|<sub>seance</sub>]] 09:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 
My Lua knowledge is limited at best so I have no idea what/who (and, by extension, why) caused this. Any thoughts?
== Current status of template, and suggestions ==
 
&mdash;&hairsp;[[User:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|Daℤyzzos]] ([[User_talk:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|✉️]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|📤]]) 20:18, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
So the template has been overhauled. That's a good idea, and I look forward to using it in future. I've got a few comments about the current direction:
:{{replyto|DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord}} On which page do you see this happening? Examples ''always'' help. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:03, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
::First noticed it on [[Mathematics]].{{snd}}[[User:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|Daℤyzzos]] ([[User_talk:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|✉️]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|📤]]) 23:22, 29 July 2025 (UTC) <ins>P.S. Just realized this&mdash;only happens on dark mode (probably should've checked that earlier, but oh well.) Also: using Chrome but also shows up in Safari on my phone (again only in dark mode).{{snd}}[[User:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|Daℤyzzos]] ([[User_talk:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|✉️]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|📤]]) 23:28, 29 July 2025 (UTC)</ins>
:::This also occurs using Firefox, again dark mode only. The HTML that is served has <syntaxhighlight lang=html><table class="sidebar nomobile nowraplinks hlist">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td class="sidebar-pretitle">Part of a series on</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th class="sidebar-title-with-pretitle">
<a class="mw-selflink selflink">Mathematics</a>
</th>
</tr>
...
</tbody>
</table></syntaxhighlight> In both dark and light mode, this comes with the following CSS: <syntaxhighlight lang=css>@media screen {
a.mw-selflink {
color: inherit;
font-weight: bold;
text-decoration: inherit;
}
}</syntaxhighlight> which is what makes the word "Mathematics" appear black and boldface. But in dark mode only, the following CSS (found in [[Module:Sidebar/styles.css]]) is used in addition: <syntaxhighlight lang=css>@media screen {
html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .sidebar:not(.notheme) .sidebar-title-with-pretitle a {
color: var(--color-progressive) !important;
}
}</syntaxhighlight> The last three simple selectors (<code>.sidebar:not(.notheme) .sidebar-title-with-pretitle a</code>) are what's causing the color to be overridden. The color value (<code>var(--color-progressive)</code>) is read from a variable that is set elsewhere. Why it's written that way, I don't know. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 07:10, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
::::I did some [[WP:WikiBlame|WikiBlame]]-ing and discovered that the last bit of CSS in your comment (the <code>@media screen</code> one) was added in [[Special:Diff/1234103998|this edit]] to the style page by @[[User:Jdlrobson|Jdlrobson]] (pinging to find the reasons for the addition as the link in the edit summary is broken and a search for "Fall of Constantinople dark mode error" on talk pages turned up blank).{{snd}}[[User:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|Daℤyzzos]] ([[User_talk:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|✉️]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord|📤]]) 13:20, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
 
== Removing sidebar images as page image ==
# The code currently uses the author's (IMO) excessively idiosyncratic syntax styling. This makes it rather difficult for other users to work on it. I'd really rather that the template adopted a more minimal approach, such as by stripping out the lavish embellishment of comment tags.
# The default width doesn't match that of {{tl|infobox}}. This makes stacking sidebars and infoboxen look less neat.
# The parameter names are subtly different from {{tl|infobox}} / {{tl|navbox}} too. This makes it harder to pick the template up.
 
(continuation of [[Module_talk:Sidebar/Archive_6#Removing_sidebar_images_as_page_image|Module talk:Sidebar/Archive 6#Removing sidebar images as page image]])
Thoughts? [[user:thumperward|Chris Cunningham (not at work)]] - [[user talk:thumperward|talk]] 11:13, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 
@[[User:Izno|Izno]]: I've added <code>notpageimage</code> to the [[Template:Sidebar/sandbox|sandbox]] and [[Module:Sidebar/configuration/sandbox|its configuration]]. [[User:The RedBurn|The RedBurn]] <small>([[User Talk:The RedBurn|ϕ]])</small> 06:36, 30 August 2025 (UTC)