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===[[2 Much Booty (In Da Pants)]]===

name = John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars |

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image =Ghostsofmars01.jpg |

:{{la|2 Much Booty (In Da Pants)}} <includeonly> — ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2 Much Booty (In Da Pants)|View AfD]])</includeonly>

imdb_id =0228333 |

A hip-hop song, why create it without the main album? The album also have some other songs, too.

writer =[[John Carpenter]]<br>Larry Sulkis |

starring =[[Ice Cube]]<br>[[Natasha Henstridge]]<br>[[Jason Statham]]<br>[[Pam Grier]]<br>[[Clea DuVall]]<br>[[Joanna Cassidy]]|

director =[[John Carpenter]] |

producer =Sandy King |

distributor =[[Storm King]] [[Screen Gems]] |

released =[[August 24]], [[2001]] ([[Theater]])<br>[[December 4]] [[2001]] ([[DVD]]) |

runtime =98 min. |

language =English |

music =[[John Carpenter]] |

awards = |

amg_id = 1:250566 |

budget =$28,000,000 |

}}

'''''Ghosts of Mars''''' (also known as '''''John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars''''') is a [[2001]] movie directed by [[John Carpenter]], which in its basic themes is similar to his earlier [[Assault_on_Precinct_13_(1976_film) | Assault on Precinct 13]].

# 2 Much Booty (In Da Pants)

# Hit It From The Back (Remix)

# It Ain't Easy

# Bounce Shorty Bounce II - D-Roc

# 2 Much Booty (In Da Pants) - Down South Remix

# Booty Bounce

# Ride Wit It - Tra-Luv

# Dog

# Booty Rock

#. DJ's Anthem - B.K.

# 2 Much Booty (In Da Pants) - 2000 Mix

[http://www.amazon.com/2-Much-Booty-Da-Pants/dp/B000000MBC Here is a link]

Fails [[WP:NSONGS]].

[[User:GravityFong|Gravity]]<small>^{[[User Talk:GravityFong|Talk]]}</small> 13:51, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' since we have no articles for the artist, the album or the label. Possible speedy A7/G11. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 14:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

*''' Strong Delete''', since it obviously has an tragically insufficient amount of information. [[User:Uioh|Uioh]] 18:47, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Boot it in da pants. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 03:44, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Non-notable, no page for artist or album. —[[User:ShadowHalo|ShadowHalo]] 22:46, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' article, and '''Merge''' information with [[Buttocks]], in the popular culture section. -- [[User:Weirdoactor|weirdoactor]] ^{[[User talk:Weirdoactor|t]]}^|^{[[Special:Contributions/Weirdoactor|c]]} 23:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

*'''Keep''', "2 Much Booty" (the song) in particular charted on two separate Billboard charts [http://www.dmrecords.com/billboard.html]. The answer here appears to be keeping the song, creating an album page, and creating an artist page. Easy expansion with some work. --[[User:Badlydrawnjeff|badlydrawnjeff]] <small>[[User_talk:Badlydrawnjeff|talk]]</small> 13:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

*''' Strong Delete''' Has no data and is not notable. [[User:SetofFive|SetofFive]] 15:30, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

* '''Comment''' [IMDB]] shows that this song was in the movie soundtrack for [[Date Movie]][http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0466342/soundtrack]. I am not going to vote, but I submit that this "Booty in Da pants" (the song) is therefore notable. I don't believe that Soundmaster T, his album (booty in da pants) and his [[one hit wonder]] song should all have separate articles, but I do recognize the encyclopedicity of putting content about the song and its related history on da wikipedia somewhere. [[User:MPS|MPS]] 04:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

*'''Strong keep''' Reaching #2 on the Billboard R&B charts seems notable enough for me. But if that's not good enough, then how about [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:z6de4jn72wa4 AMG's claim] that the song was "a hugely successful dance single" and "significant contribution to the short-lived booty music craze". Song meets at least three of the criteria at [[Wikipedia:Notability (songs)]]. [[User:Caknuck|Caknuck]] 08:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - There's too much booty and not enough notability. [[User:.V.|.V.]] ''([[User talk:.V.|talk]])'' 15:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

==Plot==

:'''&nbsp;<font color="#CC6600">Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached</font>'''<br><small>&nbsp;Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, If you have any questions, please contact me at [[User talk:IanManka|my talk page]]. [[User:IanManka|Ian Manka]] 18:44, 13 January 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist -->

The movie is set in the mid 22nd century. The planet [[Mars]] has been [[terraformed]], allowing Humans to walk on the surface without having to wear pressure suits. The story concerns a police officer, Melanie Ballard ([[Natasha Henstridge]]) who is leading a small team to pick up and transport a prisoner named Desolation Williams ([[Ice Cube]]). Arriving at the remote mining town where Williams is being held, Ballard finds virtually all of the people missing. On investigating she discovers that the miners found an underground doorway which had been created by an ancient [[Martian]] civilization. When the door was opened it released "ghosts", disembodied spirits who possessed the miners.

:I'd like to see what the community thinks of the added information about the Billboard charts. If you have any questions, please contact me at [[User talk:IanManka|my talk page]]. [[User:IanManka|Ian Manka]] 18:44, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

*'''Keep''': Per Badlydrawnjeff. —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 20:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Violence ensues, as the now possessed miners commit acts of [[death]] and [[destruction]], as well as [[self-mutilation]]. <!--The self mutilation however may be merely the alien spirits attempting to alter their human bodies to look more like those of the aliens themselves (which are only partially seen very briefly).-->

*'''Keep''' per Jeff (urgh ... I feel dirty :) ) and Ian's additions. And tne awesome name. [[User:Proto|<span style="text-decoration:none">Proto</span>]]<i>::</i><small>[[User_talk:Proto|<span style="text-decoration:none">►</span>]]</small> 21:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC) <small>(please ignore last reason to keep).</small>

*'''Delete''' per nom. [[User:Edison|Edison]] 00:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Ballard must fight off the attacking miners, escape the town, and if possible destroy the ghosts. Unfortunately all these tasks are complicated by the fact that killing a possessed human merely releases the Martian spirit, which immediately possesses another human. Eventually they decide to blow up a [[nuclear]] reactor, which kills the human hosts. All of Ballard's team are killed by the miners, leaving only her and Desolation. Not wanting the authorities to blame the massacre on him, he handcuffs Ballard to her bed and escapes the train, leaving her to return home. While she reccuperates at a hospital, the miners attack the city. Desolation returns with a pair of [[nickle]] plated [[uzi]]s and they team up to fight off the alien zombies, setting the film up for an unlikly sequel.

*'''Keep''' charted single. Lack of information in the article is a reason to expand, not delete; it's only when verifiable information is impossible to get that things get deleted, and that's not the case here. [[User:JuJube|JuJube]] 01:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Because this single '''absolutely did not reach #2''' on Billboard's R&B chart. I'm quite confused why somebody is under the impression that it did. It actually reached the illustrious position of #70. It ''may'' at some point merit an article, but for now I think everything about it can be covered in the article about its artist, should that ever exist. See, for example, [[Brian and Michael]], which covers all the info on "Matchstalk Men & Matchstalk Cats & Dogs (Lowry's Song)," because it simply doesn't make sense to split it out yet, although that song is obviously notable (UK #1 single). Anyway, this tune is very borderline as far as its notability, and I don't think it really merits an article at this time. [[User:GassyGuy|GassyGuy]] 05:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

**Please see the link above regarding its chart history for the confusion. It doesn't quite match with Billboard's history [http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/retrieve_chart_history.do?model.chartFormatGroupName=Singles&model.vnuArtistId=182172&model.vnuAlbumId=276354], but it still charted on ''two'' charts, making it quite notable in its own right. Also, "Matchstalk Men" should probably be split out. --[[User:Badlydrawnjeff|badlydrawnjeff]] <small>[[User_talk:Badlydrawnjeff|talk]]</small> 05:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

***Actually, Hot Rap Singles at that time was just a list of the (thirty? I can't recall the number) highest-charting rap tracks on the R&B Single Sales chart, so while I agree that that's two charts, I disagree that that somehow adds to the significance. [[User:GassyGuy|GassyGuy]] 06:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

==Production Notes==

*Although Mars has a day/night cycle almost identical in length to Earth's, most of the movie is set at night. The only moment in which we see Mars during the daytime is in a flashback through the character of the scientist, when she talks about how she found and opened a "Pandora's Box" that let the alien spirits out.

*Much of the movie was filmed in a [[gypsum]] mine in New Mexico. The pure white gypsum had to be dyed with thousands of gallons of biodegradable red food dye to recreate the appearance of the Martian landscape.

==Trivia==

*Originally Courtney Cox was set to play Ballard but after her foot was run over accidently by her husband she was replaced by Natasha Henstridge.

*On a similar note, Jason Statham was originally set to play Desolation Williams. This film also contains Statham's first on screen kiss.

==External links==

*{{imdb title|id=0228333|title=Ghosts of Mars}}

*[http://www.theofficialjohncarpenter.com/pages/themovies/gm/gm.html Ghosts of Mars at theofficialjohncarpenter.com]

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