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===[[Tran Quoc Binh]]===

It is a Vietnamese American soldier obituary. The article doesn't establish why he is notable besides serving in the recent Iraq war and the first Vietnamese American solider died. Also, the article has some POV issues in the "Biography" section which is not my reason for deletion. The reason for the nomination: Wikipedia is not a memorial. [[User:J. Nguyen|J. Nguyen]] 05:18, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' for the same reasons as at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victor R. Lu]]. Very sad, but Wikipedia is not a memorial, and other memorials are out there for him. <span class="user-sig user-horsepunchkid">&mdash;[[User:HorsePunchKid|<span style="font-family:monospace;font-variant:small-caps;cursor:crosshair;">HorsePunchKid</span>]]&rarr;[[User talk:HorsePunchKid|<span style="color:#070;cursor:help;" title="Kame-san says: Talk to me!">&#x9F9C;</span>]]</span> 06:05, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' with compassion and respect. Oh how I hate to make this vote! Condolences to his family. [[User:Durova|Durova]] 06:30, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

*Delete: Wikipedia is not a memorial site. We do have a 9/11 memorial, and it would be conceivable that other memorials could be created, but not in article space. [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 13:50, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

* '''Keep''' "On November 12, 2004, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger issued a state decree that the California Capitol flags were to be flown at half-staff in honor of Sergeant Tran Quoc Binh." notable enough for me, plus its well sourced and verifiable [[User:FRS|FRS]] 19:58, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

**'''Comment:''' The problem with that is...the source for the information regarding the flag only came from a weblog entry in the External links section. I tried to search it for with "Tran Quoc Binh" + Schwarzenegger and it is not getting good results on the flag just that weblog and Wikipedia mirror sites that refer to it. --[[User:J. Nguyen|J. Nguyen]] 22:28, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

**'''Comment:''' One more note on the weblog that mentioned the half-staff information, I browsed through it and the recent weblog entries regarding a service person's [http://www.fivestarflags.com/vox/] untimely death. Most of the entries regarding someone's death entry includes these lines in the end: "In honor of <Insert Name>, Capitol flags will be flown at half-staff." As you already know, there are a couple of thousand American soliders have died in the Iraq war. It seems Governor Schwarzenegger would announce anytime a Californian service person that has died in Iraq. He will issued a statement and announced the Capitol flags were to be flown at half-staff. Then Wikipedia should include articles about these Californian soliders: Sgt. 1st Class James F. Hayes, Capt. Raymond D. Hill II, Sgt. Shaker T. Guy, and so on... --[[User:J. Nguyen|J. Nguyen]] 22:48, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

::*hmmmmmmmm, well you're right that the flag-at-half-staff seems to be S.O.P. Nevertheless, I will maintain my vote to keep. The information is verifiable and notable enough to me. --[[User:FRS|FRS]] 15:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

* '''Keep''' Notable for much more than the irony. I consider he would have been worthy of article even if he had survived. -[[User:WCFrancis|WCFrancis]] 20:06, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

*'''Keep'''- Normally I'm against articles on non-notable people that have had notable events happen to them; the article should be on the event. And Tran Buoc Binh seems not to be notable for anything other than being the first Vietnamese-American to die in the Iraq conflict. However I don't see how you can avoid it in this case. [[User:Reyk|Reyk]] 21:06, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

* '''Delete''', about as notable as any soldier who was killed in any war in human history. [[User:GregorB|GregorB]] 21:27, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' as per [[User:GregorB|GregorB]] [[User:Zunaid|Zunaid]] 07:38, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per above. [[User:Dottoreso|Dottore So]] 15:02, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' [[User:65.35.197.181|65.35.197.181]] 15:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)